RTE considering future of Lyric FM

They were up the year before.

Your issue seems to be more with Marty and RTE than the show's content.

DAB would have destroyed more of RTE's radio market share had it been allowed to develop. In light of the incompetence of RTE management, it should be reconsidered.

Regards...jmcc

Bits of it went up and bits of it went down. It's stuck at between 3 and 4 percent of the total audience. That's within the margin of error for the JNLR survey. The population has risen by about a million people in the last 20 years.

Yes, I think he's a terrible relic of an era that should be over in national radio and should never, ever have made it to Lyric. But that's my problem.

However, the music selection is simply not right for a national station that is described by RTE as a classical music and arts channel.

They have also recently strayed into features for Black History Month and an on air series called "Where Life Sounds Greener", where activists talk about what they do. These could be interpreted as "political". It's like there's a free for all in there - like a very well funded college campus station.

In it's own way, Lyric has all the symptoms of the sickness that seems to afflict all of shambolic RTE.

If ya like Marty, that's just great. But is his schtick and music choice right for Lyric FM? I would say no at all.

Maybe RTÉ hasn't got anywhere else to put him.

Good to have DD back on the wireless. I spent many nights in college listening to Here Comes The Night and then Small Hours. He had a show on RTÉ XFM ten or fifteen years ago but unfortunately he seemed to be in a phase of listening to pretty dull electronica so it was a bit of a disappointment

Lorcan Murray seems to have adapted to playing classical music and has the highest rating of any show on lyric so it seems old 2fm DJs can adapt if they put their minds to it

Lorcan is excellent.

Perfect personality for the show and the time.

wasnt the only one

Well, not really. The coverage on DAB was poor for RTE. Only 4 or 5 transmitters for the Republic of Ireland, and that was it. Out in the country the signal was gone at some point. Hence people most likely didn't care. Why consider a new technology, buy a new radio if the coverage is limited was most likely the thought ? RTE didn't do much or not enough marketing, so it didn't catch on as well. And then they turned it off.

what is replacing Sean Rocks on Sunday? final show today.

I bought one in 2008, but they day when it would work in Bray never arrived. Of course stations never took an interest.

Clap trap.

It's nearly the only worthwhile division in RTE.

The vast majority of the shows are excellent.

The more "discerning" listener creaming themselves because someone spun Kalinnikov and only you and the presenter know who they're.

That's not what Radio is about. As was mentioned above. You have John Kelly, Liz nolan, Niall Carroll for example. All excellent.

I get it, Marty is not for everyone. But it's one show and it suits the time of the slot.

Sure, but as I mentioned previously. People are not turning on Marty or probably any other station at 7am for a critical listening session.

One could argue no really turns on the radio at anytime for a critical listening session.

It's mostly background noise while you're doing something else be it getting ready for work, commuting etc. So at this time a nice friendly personality is perfect. Someone mentioned Classic FM manage to do it without offending the sophisticated listener. But the vast majority of their broadcasters couldn't hold a light to Marty in terms of his personality and their breakfast show is no less cringe most of the time, while there's more cohesion to the playlist it's often not delivered very well.

There's nothing wrong with them playing something obscure now and again. It would be very rare I would come away from mystery train for example without been introduced to numerous artitsts/albums etc I've never heard. But you can't or at least it's very difficult to build a whole radio station around it. Carl Corcoran similar. One of the saddest days in lyric fm was when he left imo. But would I want him back on the breakfast show? Not really. As he doesn;t suit that time or that type of show imho.

Lyric does a lot right. Could it be better? of course. But the whole "it's a shame how shite it is" is a bit over the top.

Not directed at you, but there's a lot of hatred towards RTE and the old guard so the opinions are often not very objective.

Hamilton scores is a perfect example.

If you didn't know George Hamiliton and what he did before and just looked at the playlists the vast majority would have no issues with the show at all.

I'd say George has more musical knowledge than most of our boards "discerning" listener group

Marty suffers similarly and the bias is clear to see.

And what, get a KUSC drone on in the morning so we can all have an air of superiority and exclusivity while eating our Happy Pear fancy porridge.

Happy in the knowledge that the dross of society are where they should be.

It's this sort of nonsense that generates the barriers to arts and culture Lyric's remit should be breaking down.

You can get your baton out at 10 am

Kelly was shoehorned into Lyric after losing his Radio 1 gig. If it was down to him he wouldn't be sullenly plodding away in radio no-man's land.

To think - he was once a "top ten" talent in RTE!

That Clarke fella has lost the plot altogether. Every time I turn it on, it's Mississippi delta blues or Led Zepplin or sommat.

When you consider what a multi-genre gem Blue of the Night used to be in the days of Paul Herriott, the place is dying on it's arse.

As for Whelan, crappy WhatsApp voice messages, bad "jokes" and the sound of the 70's and 80's etc. is just not what Lyric was meant to be about. It's a gross dereliction of Public Service Broadcasting duty.

Along with Porridge promotions, free cars, free hair plugs, golden handshakes, Toy Show the Musical etc, Marty in the Morning is part of RTE's shame.

You're borderline trolling here.

Kelly is one of the few reasons to pay the license fee.

@limnam

If fairness with good reason. I think RTÉ might need to be a bit more objective when it comes to the services that they provide.

In fairness, I don't think Lyric is currently in the firing line. This is an old thread having a second wind.

Yes, I agree that it's hard to justify spending a single penny of license fee on 2FM. If it was at least holding it's own again the similar, regional youth music stations, there might some justification. But it's not. It's hopelessly compromised by poor, not popular presenters from the Noel Kelly stable of "talent".

After everything that has gone on in that place, it's not a good look for RTE.

That and an hour's sports talk each evening is as incongruous to me as Marty in the Morning on Lyric.

Blue of the Night is a bit of a mess alright. Clarke was good in previous roles but the seemingly endless desire to play 60s blues rock is not appropriate for the slot. He seems to have misinterpreted the show’s title

Why aren't the Lyric FM shows promoted on RTE, especially the shows (apart from Marty, Lorcan, John Kelly and George) ?

"The more discerning listener"

Hark at Marie Antoinette here.