RSA are targeting young women with seatbelt safely campaign

retro:electro · 22-02-2017 2:58pm #1

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/young-women-at-risk-over-wearing-seatbelt-incorrectly-for-comfort-or-to-protect-their-tan-35469191.html

RSA are targeting young women with their seatbelt safely campaign. 39% of younger women have admitted to wearing their seatbelt the wrong way and 9% wear it under their arm so it doesn't mess up their fake tan! I was gob smacked when I read that.
I was watching the 9 o clock news yesterday and they were reporting on this and one woman said "I don't wear mine at all as I feel safer without it", how on earth would you feel SAFER without it.

Am I alone in thinking people are totally mad to not wear their seatbelts these days? It's as automatic a response to me as turning the key in the ignition. Don't think I've ever gotten further than the front gate without my belt on. I wouldn't feel right without it.

Hande hoche! · 22-02-2017 3:04pm

Surely the beeping would drive the occupants of the cars crazy?

22-02-2017 3:06pm

How do you wear it incorrectly other than under the arm?

the_pen_turner · 22-02-2017 3:08pm

My uncle taught myself and cousins to drive on his farm . His way was put key in and turn but not start. Then seatbelt. . Then start engine.
It made you give the engine time before you started it and made you put on the belt.
15 plus years later I still do it. .
It's all about habit and routine

ohnonotgmail · 22-02-2017 3:08pm

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Surely the beeping would drive the occupants of the cars crazy?

that is what this is for https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seat-Belt-Clip-Stopper-2pc/dp/B008GO1FNI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487772434&sr=8-1&keywords=dummy+seat+belt+clip

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Hande hoche! · 22-02-2017 3:09pm

Deleted User wrote: »

How do you wear it incorrectly other than under the arm?

Thinking back to the doctor on the road safety advert years ago.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that is what this is for https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seat-Belt-Clip-Stopper-2pc/dp/B008GO1FNI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487772434&sr=8-1&keywords=dummy+seat+belt+clip

Interesting, every day's a school day.

ohnonotgmail · 22-02-2017 3:10pm

Deleted User wrote: »

How do you wear it incorrectly other than under the arm?

they mean wearing it under the arm that is closest to the belt. So if you are in the right seat you wear the belt under your right arm.

as the lady on the left is doing

Skylinehead · 22-02-2017 3:10pm

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Surely the beeping would drive the occupants of the cars crazy?

The seatbelt is still "on", just arseways.

22-02-2017 3:11pm

These ladies are what you'd call "idiots".

I have a foreign friend from a country I won't name but where all the cars about about 30 years old, and half of them have no engines and are pulled by disillusioned donkeys. She thinks seatbelts are hilarious signs of how precious Westerners are and refuses to wear one. I've actually banned her from my car because I don't want to be fined. I made her use a belt only to see her sneak it off five minutes later.

For someone pretty smart, she's really very stupid. At least she doesn't wear fake tan though.

Cantona's Collars · 22-02-2017 3:12pm

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Thinking back to the doctor on the road safety advert years ago.

Interesting, every day's a school day.

Apparently very popular up around Donegal according to local politicians,seatbelts aren't cool up there yet it seems like every second day somebody dies on the roads in the county.

Gatling · 22-02-2017 3:12pm

And yet young men are been hammered by insurance companies

alchemist33 · 22-02-2017 3:13pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that is what this is for https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seat-Belt-Clip-Stopper-2pc/dp/B008GO1FNI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487772434&sr=8-1&keywords=dummy+seat+belt+clip

Jesus, I'm surprised those are legal.

razorblunt · 22-02-2017 3:13pm

Do people actually wear their seatbelts like that? I've never seen anyone like that.

Hande hoche! · 22-02-2017 3:14pm

Gatling wrote: »

And yet young men are been hammered by insurance companies

A blow was struck for equality when the insurance companies decided to raise everyone's premiums.

Kimbot · 22-02-2017 3:17pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Do people actually wear their seatbelts like that? I've never seen anyone like that.

Actually, I had to wear my seat belt like that years ago for a few weeks due to an operation I had on my chest. (Medical exemption from wearing the belt but I did buckle the belt just either put that part under my arm or behind my back completely until I healed enough.)

VinLieger · 22-02-2017 3:18pm

alchemist33 wrote: »

Jesus, I'm surprised those are legal.

Its not illegal to make or buy the object but it would definitely be illegal to use one

quadrifoglio verde · 22-02-2017 3:18pm

alchemist33 wrote: »

Jesus, I'm surprised those are legal.

They ain't.
Garda twitter had a post up about a van driver a while back who was pulled over for no seatbelt. On closer inspection he had this device attached. They went to town on him.

Definitely a case of Darwin award nomination

Glenster · 22-02-2017 3:22pm

anna080 wrote: »

RSA are targeting young women with their seatbelt safely campaign. 39% of younger women have admitted to wearing their seatbelt the wrong way and 9% wear it under their arm so it doesn't mess up their fake tan! I was gob smacked when I read that.

Is it fake tan?

I always thought it was a boobs thing.

Parchment · 22-02-2017 3:22pm

If you're thick enough to wear the seat belt that way - are you going to be much of a loss to society?

pickarooney · 22-02-2017 3:23pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they mean wearing it under the arm that is closest to the belt. So if you are in the right seat you wear the belt under your right arm.

as the lady on the left is doing

Airbags.

You're all thinking it.

razorblunt · 22-02-2017 3:25pm

pickarooney wrote: »

Airbags.

You're all thinking it.

Yep. I was. He could do with some high intensity interval training and a dedicated chest programme including pec flys.

retro:electro · 22-02-2017 3:25pm

Glenster wrote: »

Is it fake tan?

I always thought it was a boobs thing.

Apparently! If you're wearing a t shirt or a vest top, wearing the belt like that can remove the tan or make it look patchy in parts. An abhorrently stupid reason to not wear a belt.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 22-02-2017 3:31pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Do people actually wear their seatbelts like that? I've never seen anyone like that.

I had an awful habit of wearing it like that (only as a passenger though strangely enough) until that rsa ad with the dr saying it would cut through you like as if you were made from cheese. I wear it properly now

mzungu · 22-02-2017 3:34pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they mean wearing it under the arm that is closest to the belt. So if you are in the right seat you wear the belt under your right arm.

as the lady on the left is doing

Utter lunacy. A collision at any kind of high speed and that seatbelt would slice her in two.

Lady is a tramp · 22-02-2017 3:43pm

I'd actually just not wear one at all rather than wear it like that ... The stupidity of it! (I do always wear mine, though!)

I've never really seen women wearing them that way, I'm surprised it's that common a problem.

Arcade_Tryer · 22-02-2017 3:47pm

anna080 wrote: »

Am I alone in thinking people are totally mad to not wear their seatbelts these days?

I don't always wear a seatbelt. I do drive very carefully though and have never been involved in any kind of road incident.

Of course wearing a seatbelt would increase my chances of not suffering major injury, or survival, should I be involved in a crash. But by not wearing a seatbelt, it could also be argued that a driver is less likely to take risks they may take if they felt safer in the car due to wearing a seatbelt. A lot of interesting studies on the effectiveness of seatbelts.

Parchment · 22-02-2017 3:52pm

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

I don't always wear a seatbelt. I do drive very carefully though and have never been involved in any kind of road incident.

Of course wearing a seatbelt would increase my chances of not suffering major injury, or survival, should I be involved in a crash. But by not wearing a seatbelt, it could also be argued that a driver is less likely to take risks they may take if they felt safer in the car due to wearing a seatbelt. A lot of interesting studies on the effectiveness of seatbelts.

But you not wearing a seatbelt has no affect on drivers around you.

Arcade_Tryer · 22-02-2017 3:59pm

Parchment wrote: »

But you not wearing a seatbelt has no affect on drivers around you.

True. If anything though, that's an argument in favour of not being forced to wear a seatbelt. The only danger really in most cases is to myself. Whereas drink driving, texting while driving, holding the mobile phone and so on, usually have a direct effect on other drivers.

Kimbot · 22-02-2017 4:03pm

Parchment wrote: »

But you not wearing a seatbelt has no affect on drivers around you.

Well it does its you have a crash, come flying out your windscreen and into their path.....

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 22-02-2017 4:07pm

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

I don't always wear a seatbelt. I do drive very carefully though and have never been involved in any kind of road incident.

Of course wearing a seatbelt would increase my chances of not suffering major injury, or survival, should I be involved in a crash. But by not wearing a seatbelt, it could also be argued that a driver is less likely to take risks they may take if they felt safer in the car due to wearing a seatbelt. A lot of interesting studies on the effectiveness of seatbelts.

I've never crashed my car (properly as in head on) but a few years ago I was driving along a normal busy road, traffic moving nicely, when out of nowhere this car hits his brakes in front of me, and comes to an abrupt stop, I am practically standing on my brakes and my car was still hurtling towards the back of the car in front of me. I swerve my car to avoid hitting the car in front, onto the other side of the road and when I look in my mirror all I can see is a car with no signs of stopping coming straight towards me. It was 100km speed limit, turns out on the corner there was a tractor cutting a ditch which caused a van doing the full speed limit to hit his brakes which caused the car in front of me to hit his and caused me to hit mine - all doing in/around 100km ph. The guy behind me was a learner driver and he couldn't stop, hurled into the back/side of me at speed.

He was awful upset when he got out of the car screaming in my face about why did i brake out of nowhere but thankfully the two drivers in front were there and explained the situation while we waited for the Garda's to arrive

It didn't matter how careful I had been driving, the driver was completely inexperienced and slammed into me from behind. I was unscathed in that accident but had my car been turned any further on the road he'd have come in through my drivers door.

You cannot predict how another driver will behave on the road

ohnonotgmail · 22-02-2017 4:09pm

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

True. If anything though, that's an argument in favour of not being forced to wear a seatbelt. The only danger really in most cases is to myself. Whereas drink driving, texting while driving, holding the mobile phone and so on, usually have a direct effect on other drivers.

well except for the person charged with reckless driving causing death as a result of a minor road accident because you were not wearing a seat belt.

SAMTALK · 22-02-2017 4:12pm

Parchment wrote: »

If you're thick enough to wear the seat belt that way - are you going to be much of a loss to society?

Jeez that a bit much.

blackwhite · 22-02-2017 4:22pm

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I had an awful habit of wearing it like that (only as a passenger though strangely enough) until that rsa ad with the dr saying it would cut through you like as if you were made from cheese. I wear it properly now

I knew someone that this happened to. Used to always wear her seatbelt under-arm because it "felt funny" if she wore it the correct way.

She had a single-vehicle RTI on her way home from town one night, and was basically cut in two by the seat belt

The Raptor · 22-02-2017 6:01pm

Never knew there was a wrong way to wear it. The one time I forgot to put it on, I felt naked without it. I like the feeling of being strapped in.

Victor · 22-02-2017 7:20pm

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

The only danger really in most cases is to myself.

If you are travelling with others, you get to turn into the blades in a liquidiser.

Capt'n Midnight · 22-02-2017 7:37pm

mzungu wrote: »

Utter lunacy. A collision at any kind of high speed and that seatbelt would slice her in two.

No it wouldn't.

But everything above her waist would pivot forward and all that momentum would be transferred to where her face meets the dashboard.

If she's lucky she'd only say goodbye to her teeth, jaw and cheek bones.

Victor · 22-02-2017 7:39pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

If she's lucky she'd only say goodbye to her teeth, jaw and cheek bones.

And just possibly snap her neck.

retro:electro · 22-02-2017 7:41pm

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

True. If anything though, that's an argument in favour of not being forced to wear a seatbelt. The only danger really in most cases is to myself. Whereas drink driving, texting while driving, holding the mobile phone and so on, usually have a direct effect on other drivers.

Or you could cause a catastrophic head injury/death to the person beside you if upon crashing your head belted off theirs because you were not strapped in.

Special Circumstances · 22-02-2017 7:51pm

anna080 wrote: »

Or you could cause a catastrophic head injury/death to the person beside you if upon crashing your head belted off theirs because you were not strapped in.

Apparently it's OK because that poster does 80kph on the motorway to compensate!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 22-02-2017 8:07pm

alchemist33 wrote: »

Jesus, I'm surprised those are legal.

They are designed to be used when carrying items on the seat, that might set the occupancy sensor off.

Galwayguy35 · 22-02-2017 8:24pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

No it wouldn't.

But everything above her waist would pivot forward and all that momentum would be transferred to where her face meets the dashboard.

If she's lucky she'd only say goodbye to her teeth, jaw and cheek bones.

Well a surgeon who was speaking on a previous RSA advert says different but either way I think everyone can agree that across the shoulder is the correct way to wear the belt.

I was also watching the news yesterday on this and those 2 women who went on national TV and said they don't bother wearing them were idiots.

jameorahiely · 22-02-2017 9:23pm

I don't understandwhy you would wear it the wrong way. It's designed like that for a reason.

r93kaey5p2izun · 22-02-2017 9:49pm

I would never travel without a seat belt and I always wear it correctly because I understand the damage the wrong way could cause. But I do find seat belts quite uncomfortable if they are not height adjustable. I find that more often than not they cut across my jaw and stick into me. If they have an adjuster then it's grand but they often don't. I don't drive myself so my experience is with taxis mostly and the odd lift from a friend. They rarely seem to have adjusters. I'm not ridiculously short or anything (5'3"), just a little below average, yet it's a frequent issue.

I think anyone risking their life over makeup or fake tan is stupid. But unfortunately I'm not surprised it happens.

silverharp · 22-02-2017 9:51pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they mean wearing it under the arm that is closest to the belt. So if you are in the right seat you wear the belt under your right arm.

as the lady on the left is doing

I dont think I have ever seen anyone do that, you would have to be dumb as rocks

mzungu · 22-02-2017 10:12pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

No it wouldn't.

But everything above her waist would pivot forward and all that momentum would be transferred to where her face meets the dashboard.

If she's lucky she'd only say goodbye to her teeth, jaw and cheek bones.

In cases where the car is going very fast it would not be far off it. Any kind of half decent speed and it will cut through the abdomen and your internal organs will be bearing the brunt of it. Unless you are doing Sunday driver speeds you will either be dead or very badly injured. A few broken teeth would be a dream outcome in comparison.

One of the first campaigns of the New Year is to address the misuse of seatbelt by women. Because as Dr Gerry Lane, the consultant in Emergency medicine who featured in our Seatbelt Safety TV ad a number of years ago, said: "…and what happens when you wear your seatbelt the wrong way is equally mind bending.

"If you're crazy enough to wear your seatbelt under your arm and if you meet me after a crash it will have sliced into you like cheese wire lacerating your vital organs."

http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/in-a-crash-it-could-slice-into-you-like-cheese-wire-rsa-expert-says-wearing-seatbelt-under-your-arm-can-cause-horrific-injury-35356890.html

whoopsadoodles · 22-02-2017 10:26pm

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

I don't always wear a seatbelt. I do drive very carefully though and have never been involved in any kind of road incident.

Of course wearing a seatbelt would increase my chances of not suffering major injury, or survival, should I be involved in a crash. But by not wearing a seatbelt, it could also be argued that a driver is less likely to take risks they may take if they felt safer in the car due to wearing a seatbelt. A lot of interesting studies on the effectiveness of seatbelts.

I was the passenger in a car, the driver took no risks but we were hit by an articulated truck which was overtaking and was on the wrong side of the road.

The two back seat passengers of my car were killed. Both were in age appropriate* car seats. The driver of my car ended up with injuries requiring over a month in hospital. I had horrific bruising in the shape of the seatbelt. I also had a fratctured sternum.

Had the driver or I not being wearing our seatbelts we would be dead. We took no risks.

I've no doubt there are some freak examples of a life being saved because no seatbelt was worn or vice versa, but those are isolated examples. Seatbelts worn correctly save lives.

*current recommendations would have them in different carseats and they would quite possibly have survived if the crash occured now.

wakka12 · 22-02-2017 10:34pm

Candie wrote: »

These ladies are what you'd call "idiots".

I have a foreign friend from a country I won't name but where all the cars about about 30 years old, and half of them have no engines and are pulled by disillusioned donkeys. She thinks seatbelts are hilarious signs of how precious Westerners are and refuses to wear one. I've actually banned her from my car because I don't want to be fined. I made her use a belt only to see her sneak it off five minutes later.

For someone pretty smart, she's really very stupid. At least she doesn't wear fake tan though.

I don't even know what to say to that, absolutely mind boggling stuff :pac:

retro:electro · 22-02-2017 10:37pm

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

I was the passenger in a car, the driver took no risks but we were hit by an articulated truck which was overtaking and was on the wrong side of the road.

The two back seat passengers of my car were killed. Both were in age appropriate* car seats. The driver of my car ended up with injuries requiring over a month in hospital. I had horrific bruising in the shape of the seatbelt. I also had a fratctured sternum.

Had the driver or I not being wearing our seatbelts we would be dead. We took no risks.

I've no doubt there are some freak examples of a life being saved because no seatbelt was worn or vice versa, but those are isolated examples. Seatbelts worn correctly save lives.

*current recommendations would have them in different carseats and they would quite possibly have survived if the crash occured now.

Wow that is absolutely horrendous. I hope you are coping okay after that it can't be easy. So tragic.

pablo128 · 22-02-2017 10:42pm

I crashed a car head on into a lamp post. There was a girl in the passenger seat and a girl sitting behind her wearing seatbelts. Neither girl was injured at all.

My 15st cousin was sitting behind me not wearing a belt and went through me. I couldn't walk properly for a year and a half. He broke his arm and leg.

22-02-2017 10:47pm

wakka12 wrote: »

I don't even know what to say to that, absolutely mind boggling stuff :pac:

A lot of the cars in her home country would be so old that they have no seatbelts fitted at all, so she grew up with them as the exception - especially in a very rural area. She thinks we're all paranoid and scared of our own shadows and can't understand why we're horrified at her attitude!

punisher5112 · 22-02-2017 10:49pm

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

I was the passenger in a car, the driver took no risks but we were hit by an articulated truck which was overtaking and was on the wrong side of the road.

The two back seat passengers of my car were killed. Both were in age appropriate* car seats. The driver of my car ended up with injuries requiring over a month in hospital. I had horrific bruising in the shape of the seatbelt. I also had a fratctured sternum.

Had the driver or I not being wearing our seatbelts we would be dead. We took no risks.

I've no doubt there are some freak examples of a life being saved because no seatbelt was worn or vice versa, but those are isolated examples. Seatbelts worn correctly save lives.

*current recommendations would have them in different carseats and they would quite possibly have survived if the crash occured now.

1st very sorry to hear that and do hope you get on as best as one can.

2nd its these instances that should be put out there to show these fools how dangerous it really can be.

So many drive a vehicle and don't think of anything but themselves or how quick they can pass in the worst of places.

I've been in a good few collisions in cars and much bigger vehicles.

Cars you would feel everything and in the large vehicles you would at times not even know there was a collision only for the sound.

It really should be drilled into people at school and improve dangerous junctions, bends and blind corners etc.

RSA are targeting young women with seatbelt safely campaign

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