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Bipolar Joe wrote: »My C64C still gets online.
How do you get it online ? I didnt know you get them online
My first computer in 99 was Acer 286,4mb of ram with dos 5.0
, i made my confirmation that year and spent 50 pounds of it upgrading it too windows 3.1 good times . 0 -
Sephiroth_dude wrote: »How do you get it online ? I didnt know you get them online
My first computer in 99 was Acer 286,4mb of ram with dos 5.0 , i made my confirmation that year and spent 50 pounds of it upgrading it too windows 3.1 good times .
In Elder Days you dialled up bulletin-boards, mainly in England, via 1200 baud modem.
My first computer was a Sinclair ZX Spectrum+ in 1984, with a trouser-flapping 48kB core memory and no mass-storage bar an audio tape interface that positively howled along at (IIRC) 16KB per-100 seconds.
EDIT: Y'know, it occurs to me that aside from confounding young Java-heads with the UltraSPARC delay-slot in assembler, I've never had more fun with a computer than playing around with that little thing way back in the day.0 -
Sephiroth_dude wrote: »How do you get it online ? I didnt know you get them online
My first computer in 99 was Acer 286,4mb of ram with dos 5.0 , i made my confirmation that year and spent 50 pounds of it upgrading it too windows 3.1 good times .
In 99 surely it would have come with 98 or at least 95?
My first computer in 2000 was a Dell 4100. came with 128mb of memory and a 20gb hdd. I remember thinking that I might need to buy another hard drive in 6 months because I might have filled it by then.0 -
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1200 Baud? LuxuryIn Elder Days you dialled up bulletin-boards, mainly in England, via 1200 baud modem.
My first online experience was with BIX (Byte Information Exchange), a bulletin board in the US run by Byte magazine. I was in Germany at the time, so wouldn't be able to call the US directly, but was able to contact it via X.25. Deutsche Telekom took some persuading to allow a mere mortal like myself to access their X.25 network, but eventually they gave in. Dialled up the X.25 PAD with a 300 baud acoustic coupler attached to my NEC APC using a terminal emulator with kermit that I'd written myself in Turbo Pascal.0 -
1200 Baud? Luxury
My first online experience was with BIX (Byte Information Exchange), a bulletin board in the US run by Byte magazine. I was in Germany at the time, so wouldn't be able to call the US directly, but was able to contact it via X.25. Deutsche Telekom took some persuading to allow a mere mortal like myself to access their X.25 network, but eventually they gave in. Dialled up the X.25 PAD with a 300 baud acoustic coupler attached to my NEC APC using a terminal emulator with kermit that I'd written myself in Turbo Pascal.
Hardass. Tell that t'young folk today, and they won't believe you! :cool:0 -
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No, you needed at least a 386 just to run Windows 3.11 (a 286 would run Windows 3.1) I think Windows 95 required a 486.
aye my memory is a little foggy on the 286, but you could use a 386 for 95 (although not recommended by MS)
I still remember upgrading my first CPU from a 486 DX 33 to a DX4 100, oh the excitement of seeing it being recognized in the BIOS screen
I also put in an extra 4MBs to make it 8MBs at the same time, but still had to make floppy boot disks to load the drivers \ TSRs \ etc into high memory, just to play a game of Doom 2 0 -
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That brings back fond memories .. I was a ninja QEMM386 guru back in the dayI also put in an extra 4MBs to make it 8MBs at the same time, but still had to make floppy boot disks to load the drivers \ TSRs \ etc into high memory, just to play a game of Doom 2 I remember even trying to minimize the space taken up by environment variables, especially PATH, before loading TSR's and device drivers to be able to squeeze that one last one into high memory. Those were the days! 0 -
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I won a category prize in the Young Scientists with a database/statistical analysis program I wrote for the Speccy. Ahhh... back in the day.My first computer was a Sinclair ZX Spectrum+ in 1984, with a trouser-flapping 48kB core memory and no mass-storage bar an audio tape interface that positively howled along at (IIRC) 16KB per-100 seconds.
EDIT: Y'know, it occurs to me that aside from confounding young Java-heads with the UltraSPARC delay-slot in assembler, I've never had more fun with a computer than playing around with that little thing way back in the day.0 -
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Sephiroth_dude wrote: »How do you get it online ? I didnt know you get them online
My first computer in 99 was Acer 286,4mb of ram with dos 5.0 , i made my confirmation that year and spent 50 pounds of it upgrading it too windows 3.1 good times .
This dude was a big help getting mine going:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOOE7KrrCpE
The BBS's are a bit flaky these days, but Cottonwood is still around once in a while, if anyone else is old enough to remember that.
The C64 was my first computer. Technically it was my Dads, but I used it for awesome stuff like computer games and learning how to crack them from smart people.0 -
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AllGunsBlazing wrote: »Had a C64 in our house as well. Would be interesting to see the sales figures for Commodore in Ireland back in the 80's. Never got a foothold in the UK but seemed very popular here. Every school computer lab seemed to be made up of C64's.
The awful BBC micro was the choice for schools I think. I vaguely remember hearing a deal was struck with the dept of education and the manufacturer. The Spectrum being made in Dundee would have outstripped C64 sales in the UK and was a cheaper machine so I would have thought more popular in 80's Ireland too. Both great machines but that Commodore SID chip was amazing. Kindergarten for electro music producers of the 90's before Atari ST further education 0 -
Sephiroth_dude wrote: »KB? We've come so far since then
But essentially the basic design of the HDD has changed little in almost 60 years! A spinning platter with a seek arm with read/write head.
But SSD Drives are the death knell of the humble hard drive so it has not long left.0 -
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Commodore 64 FTW!
You could buy a tape for 3 or 4 punts. What's a game nowadays, 50 or 60 euro?
But it wasn't all cheap. Daley Thomspon took people off the dole queues to manufacture joystick. Many a joystick was broken by his game
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Commodore 64 FTW!
You could buy a tape for 3 or 4 punts. What's a game nowadays, 50 or 60 euro?
But it wasn't all cheap. Daley Thomspon took people off the dole queues to manufacture joystick. Many a joystick was broken by his game
And many embarrassing moments when your parents walked in on you trying to do the 100m!0 -
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The awful BBC micro was the choice for schools I think. I vaguely remember hearing a deal was struck with the dept of education and the manufacturer. The Spectrum being made in Dundee would have outstripped C64 sales in the UK and was a cheaper machine so I would have thought more popular in 80's Ireland too. Both great machines but that Commodore SID chip was amazing. Kindergarten for electro music producers of the 90's before Atari ST further education
The BBC Micro Model B was a proper bit of kit in its day. But ISTR the CBM64 retailed for about £300 back then, which was about the same as the BBC. Come to think of it that wasn't cheap! :pac:
The VIC-II graphics chip and proper three-channel sound in the CBM was a mighty job, though.0 -
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It was expensive but it wasn't awful.The awful BBC micro was the choice for schools I think. I vaguely remember hearing a deal was struck with the dept of education and the manufacturer. The Spectrum being made in Dundee would have outstripped C64 sales in the UK and was a cheaper machine so I would have thought more popular in 80's Ireland too. Both great machines but that Commodore SID chip was amazing. Kindergarten for electro music producers of the 90's before Atari ST further education
For science it had analog to digital ports, something I miss on PC's
sound was painfully complicated
tape recorder loaded programs in blocks so you only needed to rewind a block , every other machine you had to reload the tape from scratch
spectrum didn't have a real keyboard , you could touch type on a beeb
Yeah the ST was a great machine with superb analog but wasn't that later ? And of course it had a GUI that predated Apple and Windows by ages.
anyway the guys who designed the BBC micro went on to design the ARM cpu. So 50 Billion shipped (probably closer to 60 Billion now) and used by 2/3rd's of the worlds population on a daily basis in things like smartphones and tablets.0 -
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Aye, and Jaz drives. I also remember looking at an Olivetti PC-AT compatible with a trouser-flapping 20MB hard-disk in a computer shop in Limerick in the late '80s, and thinking you couldn't get more of a horse of a maw-shine. :pac:
I had one of those in work, except it was a 40mb hard-disk (split into 32mb C: and 8mb
cos DOS couldn't access anything past 32mb).
It was the best machine in the plant, mainly because it had a colour screen and ran at a blistering 12Mhz.
It cost about IR£2,000 or so I think, and the first thing we did was buy a memory upgrade in the UK for about £100 sterling that increased the RAM from 1mb to 2mb0 -
AllGunsBlazing wrote: »In the UK, but I never saw a Micro in the flesh over here. A mate of mine did have a Spectrum though. The keyboard was rank and the general build quality felt flimsy in comparison to my tank like Commodore.;)
But credit where its due - the ZX was a huge influence in the bedroom program scene of the time.
you are going to start a playground fanboy fight here
Rubber keyboard rocked, stuff your plastic C64 up your hole 0 -
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