Election 2020 - Carlow/Kilkenny. See Mod Note in post 1

Nokia6230i wrote: »

Whatever about Helena Byrne at 40/1 or Melissa ONeill (IFP) @ 80/1 if I was Cllr. Wallace @ 66/1 I'd be embarrassed and on top of this they're all behind AR who's on 33/1; guessing her supporters're having quite the flutter?

Wallace scraped into the council really. For all her “activism” she’s not within an arses roar of being a TD. Angie ray is also fishing in the same angry crazy pond. I reckon Murnane has Carlow town sewn up but she’d have to be ahead of Bobby Alyward to get in. Where would FF get transfers after two seats?

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Caller for Pat Deering couldn’t answer as to any of his policies.Waste of time .

Often canvassers are just Party people without an in-depth knowledge of party policy. I wouldn’t sweat it I’m sure it’s available online some where or other.

She has posters up in Kilkenny anyhow. So maybe it is going to good use!!

I’m not bothered tuning in. I know who I’m voting for and absolutely nothing will convince me otherwise now. SF and to a lessor extent FF have very worrying manifestos that could potentially do enormous harm to the economic well being of the country and consequently all our livelihoods.
In the last week of the campaign people would want to take a very hard look at the much vaunted “change” we hear about it. As a taxpayer it frankly terrifies me

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

But why call at all, in that case ? Just shove the flyer through the letterbox .

Why not follow it up with the candidate or find out for yourself? Lift the phone or internet - there’s a world of info out there. I wouldn’t expect a canvasser to have huge knowledge of policy. Why would they?

Attended todays debate; AR & Melissa O'Neill were no shows.

4 Chairs on stage; only ever 3 at a time mind; poor Alan Hayes was put up against Pat Deering & Sen. Murnane; he's out of his depth & I wonder what resources he has, how he's campaigning etc.; while we share a constituency & radio station I'd be shocked people would know who he is; I actually thought he'd been a previous IT Carlow SU President in recent years; turns out it's UCC SU President he was in last 2-3 years.....

Questions were from "Vested Interests" in some cases; I'd imagine these were set up by producer/s or presenter to avoid anything defamatory or inflammatory?

E.G. Financial Advisor from Kilkenny asked re mortgages and other similar matters.

Was rather hoping for off the cuff questions from audience; have a feeling candidates may've been prepped if expecting certain questions though obviously stuff like student accommodation's gonna come up, health issues, homelessness, climate change etc.

Got to know a bit more about Kilkenny Cllr. Patk. O'Neill FG who was also on The Way It Is Candidate Debate with Sue Nunn last Thursday (1st of 3) & while I read the KP (Lamberts on Dublin St.) I still think there's a serious split in constituency; it's quite large relatively speaking and FG & FF both carve different parts of it up; Bobby Aylward Sth. Kilkenny/McGuinness the City mainly, JP Co. Kilkenny full stop but mainly Sth. Kilkenny & Patk. O'Neill Bennettsbridge etc. while Pat's left to all of Carlow.

Rest of 'em must row their own boat; Denis Hynes (SIPTU & Labour) is paddling well in Sth. Carlow since he's well got round Borris, Goresbridge & Gowran not to mention 'Comer where he secured a council seat in May; definite dark horse.

Cllr. Noonan (KK/Green Party) is who I'm voting for; I'm a member, for now, til 1st of April (!) or so of Fine Gael so am voting outside of party lines; can't see myself renewing membership after about 5-6 years and amn't active in anyway; I'd hate to canvass for example; couldn't be dealing with abuse to face on doorsteps or, alternatively the nicey-nicey s**e to your face while as soon's door's closed it'd be "That PD is a right b******s".....

Won't be joining the Green Party mind!

Can't vote SF; they're a party lacking in ambition, who don't want to govern, who are hypocrites in terms of how they vote in Republic & share governance of Northern Ireland; their candidate here is failing to deliver & flatering to deceive in a constituency where she should be easily making it difficult for all; her retiring Cork North Central TD Jonathan O'Brien would wipe the floor with McGuinness et al. Plus there's the IRA connection; no bucking way.

Wallace is too radical & her Summer 2017 & 2018 "Protests" were "up there" with the worst of water protests; she's dropped both cases like a hot potato......

Would rather s**t on my hands & clap than vote FF; the 3 candidates tried deny democracy, however symbolically, by voting no to even holding a Repeal Referendum; it can't just be democracy when it suits a politician.

Debate itself was bland enough; Carlow Chamber of Commerce & Love Carlow has a spokesperson there banging the Vote Carlow drum but when the candidates're not up to much then I'd much rather vote for someone who'll represent me, us, the constituency at a national level better than the current crop; of those JP's my preferred option to PD.

That's Thursday nights briefing done!!!

Can't recall a political canvass being done at Fairgreen til today; had thought they'd remain a-political?

A certain "Independent" was there this afternoon & for quite a number of hours overall too.

road_high wrote: »

Best we are a welfare state. That will only grow under SF et al. So you’ll continue to pay that and indeed potentially a lot more

not going by their manifesto (which to be honest is all we can go by in regards any party at this stage)

That's because she is an amateur. To be blunt she sounds like an imbecile speaking/reading tbh. It's "our" not "are"! All fluffy words but no indication of what she will actually do- will she sit down with the IDA and Enterprise Ireland and devise a new plan??? There has been lots of good news stories in Carlow since the recession- Carlow IT, MSD, AutoLaunch have all exapanded considerably and the Live Register has dropped conderably also.

The whole just "Carlow first" thing is a bit silly too as alieniates Kilkenny voters and both herself and Pat Deering did get some last time.

Looks like sf just might have good election and keep their seat.

Am surprised at how many people have said they are voting for them even though they have misgivings and are not actually supporters of the party or its leadership

Jennifer has a woeful record of attendance at the seanad as at the housing committee meetings, when she was asked about it she said sure aren't I here in Carlow doing things for the locals. Dail Eireann is where change happens IMO not down here.

fits wrote: »

Apparently 2500 first preference votes from Carlow went to mcguinness and aylward. Disclaimer: Third hand information.

Happens every election. But depends on which boxes they came from.

HanFiredFirst wrote: »

How many of elected Kilkenny TD's have a constituency office in Carlow or how many times a year do they pop down to Carlow to hear from the voters of Carlow and their concerns.

Function, McGuinness, Aylward & Phelan have no interst in Carlow or it's people.

Funchion had one on Dublin St.; beside Jennings Opticians/Carlow Cabs (that premises + flats is up for sale) where Fussy Galore is now.

Moved to Bagenalstown; rent & rates're cheaper there.

So she does have a presence in both CW & KK; it doesn't have to be in Carlow town for me; Tullow & Bagenalstown're just as important.

Wallace out after count 6

Never thought I’d say this but Jennifer murnane is growing on me. I’ve been impressed with her energy, natural demeanor and general
Positivity I’ve seen and heard in the debates and in radio. I can see why she reels in the votes - comes across as a definite hard worker