Vegans are WEAK !!!!!!!!!

auspicious · 05-05-2019 7:32pm #1

ALICIA ZIEGLER is a crossfit athlete vegan. She became vegan from a young age. Although falling off the wagon for a few years she is again fully vegan and is a certified nutritionist.
“I have been training Crossfit, even completing an 8-minute plank, all while surviving on a vegan diet and maintaining all my muscle.”

(Cross fit stats @ games.crossfit.com)

AGE

38

HEIGHT

5'4"

WEIGHT

127 LB

BENCHMARK STATS

Back Squat. 195 lb
Clean and Jerk. 105 lb
Snatch. 95 lb
Deadlift. 225 lb
Max Pull-ups. 8

https://youtu.be/cRmEXUwMUPg

ED BAUER is the vegan poster boy of crossfit and also a certified nutritionist.

He became vegan at age 11!

He says “anyone can be healthy and strong off a plant-based diet.”
"One of the biggest advantages is the ability to recover faster because of the amount of nutrient dense foods in a whole foods plant based diet."

His protein is concentrated around pea protein, rice protein, tempeh and tofu.

(stats @ plantbuilt.com)

Division: Olympic Weight Lifting

Weight class: 85kg / 187 lb

Age: 37

Height: 5’ 9”

Non-competition weight: Approx. 89kg / 196 lb
Snatch PR: 95.5kg / 210 lb
Clean & Jerk PR: 116 kg / 255 lb
Back Squat PR: 190 kg / 418 lb
Front Squat PR: 143.2 kg / 315 lb

https://youtu.be/6gxIhiGO0v4

PATRIK BABOUMIAN won the world's strongest man title in 2011 with a vegan diet.
He can lift a car above his head with his bare hands.

Other notable vegan athletes are

Jermain Defoe.    - footballer
David Haye.           - boxer
Lewis Hamilton.   - F1 driver
Venus Williams.   - tennis player
Barny Du Plessis. - bodybuilder and vegan mr.
universe
Tia Blanco.            - world surf champ
Kendrick Yahcob Farris - Olympic weightlifter
Nate Diaz.               - MMA fighter
Hannah Teter.        - 3 time olympic snowboarder
medalist

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.espn.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/26419/vegan-meals-all-the-rage-for-titans-with-15-players-converted&ved=2ahUKEwjF9IOBiYXiAhX-ShUIHetYBwsQFjAPegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw1Ns1-3liMr3I4QGvkWBpE1&cshid=1557083147412

and more...
Game changers.

Unearthly · 05-05-2019 11:41pm

Yeah I think it's fair to say you can compete at a top level with a balanced plant based diet.

Incidentally as a Man Utd fan I try to keep it quiet Chris Smalling is a vegan, probably not the best example

auspicious · 06-05-2019 12:06am

Unearthly wrote: »

Yeah I think it's fair to say you can compete at a top level with a balanced plant based diet.

Incidentally as a Man Utd fan I try to keep it quiet Chris Smalling is a vegan, probably not the best example

Made me chuckle.

YFlyer · 06-05-2019 10:34am

Unearthly wrote: »

Yeah I think it's fair to say you can compete at a top level with a balanced plant based diet.

Incidentally as a Man Utd fan I try to keep it quiet Chris Smalling is a vegan, probably not the best example

Wasn't there an Arsenal player that was vegan?

Unearthly · 06-05-2019 12:06pm

YFlyer wrote: »

Wasn't there an Arsenal player that was vegan?

Yes Hector Bellerin

YFlyer · 06-05-2019 5:24pm

Unearthly wrote: »

Yes Hector Bellerin

Thanks. Been a Spurs man I don't wish him the best.

The_Honeybadger · 06-05-2019 5:36pm

There are many American Football players in the NFL turned vegan, and even more who are about 80-90% plant based, but not fully vegan.

Tom Brady, widely considered the greatest player of all time favours the latter approach and a lot of players in the league have followed his lead.

auspicious · 06-05-2019 5:44pm

There's a link to such an article at the bottom of OP but copy and paste is needed.
Some defensive players can weigh almost 300lb in NFL, a very physically demanding sport.

YFlyer · 06-05-2019 5:45pm

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

There are many American Football players in the NFL turned vegan, and even more who are about 80-90% plant based, but not fully vegan.

Tom Brady, widely considered the greatest player of all time favours the latter approach and a lot of players in the league have followed his lead.

I wonder does Tom Brady meditate? As far as I know his Brazilian wife does TM. Maybe more a game changer than diet.

Mike9832 · 06-05-2019 5:54pm

Unearthly wrote: »

Yes Hector Bellerin

Gone to crap ever since

Nothing to do with being vegan though, just turned into a wally

Think diet is very over-rated myself for elite athletes, not saying Vegan is good or not, don't have a clue.

Just think when your so genetically gifted, you can get away not eating perfect, I wouldn't be looking at elite athletes vegan diets for inspiration, they could eat chicken nuggets all day and still be the incredible

eg Phelps, Usain Bolt, Le Bron James etc

Rows Grower · 06-05-2019 6:04pm

Mike9832 wrote: »

Unearthly wrote: »

Yes Hector Bellerin

Gone to crap ever since

Nothing to do with being vegan though, just turned into a wally

Think diet is very over-rated myself for elite athletes, not saying Vegan is good or not, don't have a clue.

Just think when your so genetically gifted, you can get away not eating perfect, I wouldn't be looking at elite athletes vegan diets for inspiration, they could eat chicken nuggets all day and still be the incredible

eg Phelps, Usain Bolt, Le Bron James etc

Diet is hugely important for any sportsperson, at elite level even more so.

Mike9832 · 06-05-2019 6:08pm

Rows Grower wrote: »

Diet is hugely important for any sportsperson, at elite level even more so.

Alot of them have crap diets, you'd be shocked

Genetics > Diet

Rows Grower · 06-05-2019 6:50pm

Mike9832 wrote: »

Alot of them have crap diets, you'd be shocked

Genetics > Diet

Most athletes that win Gold would not have the best genetics, they just want to be winners and work that bit harder and take any small percentage they can get, nutrition being the area where least effort would give greatest results.

Mike9832 · 06-05-2019 6:57pm

Rows Grower wrote: »

Most athletes that win Gold would not have the best genetics, they just want to be winners and work that bit harder and take any small percentage they can get, nutrition being the area where least effort would give greatest results.

You believe that

I'll leave thread now :pac:

Rows Grower · 06-05-2019 7:04pm

YFlyer wrote: »

I wonder does Tom Brady meditate? As far as I know his Brazilian wife does TM. Maybe more a game changer than diet.

I never heard of Tom Brady before today but I'd be fairly sure he meditates.

Most if not all competitors in any sport meditate.

Naos · 06-05-2019 7:21pm

Rows Grower wrote: »

Most athletes that win Gold would not have the best genetics, they just want to be winners and work that bit harder and take any small percentage they can get, nutrition being the area where least effort would give greatest results.

You forget the PEDs part.

The_Honeybadger · 06-05-2019 7:21pm

Rows Grower wrote: »

I never heard of Tom Brady before today but I'd be fairly sure he meditates.

Most if not all competitors in any sport meditate.

I believe he does. He has his own company specialising in nutrition and lifestyle advice for athletes. When you can play in to your 40’s in probably the most demanding position in any sport it gives you a lot of credibility in that regard.

There are some great stories around veganism in the NFL if anyone cares to do a bit of googling. Look up the Tennessee Titans in particular.

Worztron · 06-05-2019 7:27pm

YFlyer wrote: »

Thanks. Been a Spurs man I don't wish him the best.

Hello YFlyer, from a fellow Spurs fan.

Rows Grower · 06-05-2019 7:32pm

Naos wrote: »

You forget the PEDs part.

You can take all the steriods and growth hormones you want but if you are eating rubbish food everyday they're not going to do you much good.

YFlyer · 07-05-2019 6:59pm

Worztron wrote: »

Hello YFlyer, from a fellow Spurs fan.

Hi Worztron. We have a big match tomorrow

Worztron · 07-05-2019 7:20pm

YFlyer wrote: »

Hi Worztron. We have a big match tomorrow

Certainly do, COYS!

Worztron · 07-05-2019 7:27pm

Unearthly · 08-05-2019 10:02pm

Congrats Spurs

YFlyer · 09-05-2019 6:58am

Unearthly wrote: »

Congrats Spurs

Thanks.

Bob Harris · 09-05-2019 7:32am

If you want to see a strong vegan look up Kerryman Clarence Kennedy.

Worztron · 09-05-2019 10:56am

Bob Harris wrote: »

If you want to see a strong vegan look up Kerryman Clarence Kennedy.

Yes, the guys a beast.

Worztron · 09-05-2019 10:57am

Unearthly wrote: »

Congrats Spurs

Thank you very much, Unearthly. 👍

silverharp · 09-05-2019 1:11pm

Worztron wrote: »

are steroids vegan?

auspicious · 15-05-2019 6:47pm

Irish weightlifter explains a day of eating; total calories 3000 and protein 238g.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F5fsqg6aJOI

This is an older video of his with more nutritional tips.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hHrysja5lYw

Mike9832 · 15-05-2019 6:50pm

auspicious wrote: »

Irish weightlifter explains a day of eating; total calories 3000 and protein 238g.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F5fsqg6aJOI

This is an older video of his with more nutritional tips.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hHrysja5lYw

Think its more to do tren and deca

Clarence is elite though, incredible natural strength too

auspicious · 15-05-2019 7:03pm

Mike9832 wrote: »

Think its more to do tren and deca

Clarence is elite though, incredible natural strength too

The video is just about his plant based dietary intake.
There is no mention of his training techniques.

Yep! He's far from weak.

KSU · 17-05-2019 12:11pm

auspicious wrote: »

David Haye. - boxer

Became a vegan in 2014 two years after the last title fight.

Since then he has a record of 2-2 (was criticized for picking relative unknown journey men in his 1st two fights back for soft victories)

auspicious · 17-05-2019 4:39pm

KSU wrote: »

Became a vegan in 2014 two years after the last title fight.

Since then he has a record of 2-2 (was criticized for picking relative unknown journey men in his 1st two fights back for soft victories)

Noted.

Keith Holmes, who held a middleweight title from 1999 to 2001, was/is vegan. He became the first vegan World Champion and today owns Vegan Hut Cafe.

Worztron · 17-05-2019 6:09pm

KSU wrote: »

Became a vegan in 2014 two years after the last title fight.

Since then he has a record of 2-2 (was criticized for picking relative unknown journey men in his 1st two fights back for soft victories)

By 2014, he was well past his prime.

Worztron · 28-06-2019 7:41pm

silverharp · 30-06-2019 7:20pm

^^^

i gather steroids are vegan but a bunch of past their prime athletes looking to make a buck isnt the best guide to do anything

Worztron · 12-07-2019 7:43pm

auspicious · 12-07-2019 8:06pm

I said it before and I'll say it again. Rogan is a bull**** artist.

Unearthly · 13-07-2019 1:22pm

Joe is a weird one. He is against factory farming and all types of dairy but he just can't get past the hurdle of plant protein being adequate.

Also he seems to bizarrely think hunting his own food is more ethical

silverharp · 13-07-2019 5:48pm

auspicious wrote: »

I said it before and I'll say it again. Rogan is a bull**** artist.

what does that even mean? he gets some interesting guests an discussions going. even introduced me to Joel Khan.

Stop moaning ffs · 13-07-2019 5:51pm

People taking time out of their day and complaining about other people’s dietary routines is the most pathetic thing I’ve eber actually seen.

Go back to bed you fvckin void

auspicious · 13-07-2019 7:22pm

silverharp wrote: »

what does that even mean? he gets some interesting guests an discussions going. even introduced me to Joel Khan.

I'll watch him if he crops up in my youtube recommended only when has a scientist on or is discussing some interesting fringe topics. But he can be plenty disingenuous when it suits him to denigrate others.

auspicious · 18-07-2019 1:16am

Kendrick Farris made the switch to a vegan diet after his son was born September 2014.

Since then Farris has packed on more muscle, moved up a weight class, and at 94kg he set an American Record total at the 2016 Olympic Trials in Salt Lake City.
During the Olympic Team Trials, Farris set a new USA record and a personal best by lifting 800 pounds.
In May 2016 he broke the American lifting record for clean-and-jerk with three lifts totaling 377 kg (743 lbs).

30 years old and produced some of the best lifts of his or anyone's life after going vegan

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MoEuhwU5MXI

JoeyDoh · 18-07-2019 1:20am

Lads, Clarence Kennedy and Kendrick Farris are vegan athletes to be commended in the strength sphere.

Patrick Baboumian is a nobody in the strongman world though, and he most certainly did not win the WSM in 2011.

Mike9832 · 18-07-2019 1:20pm

auspicious wrote: »

Kendrick Farris made the switch to a vegan diet after his son was born September 2014.

Since then Farris has packed on more muscle, moved up a weight class, and at 94kg he set an American Record total at the 2016 Olympic Trials in Salt Lake City.
During the Olympic Team Trials, Farris set a new USA record and a personal best by lifting 800 pounds.
In May 2016 he broke the American lifting record for clean-and-jerk with three lifts totaling 377 kg (743 lbs).

30 years old and produced some of the best lifts of his or anyone's life after going vegan

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MoEuhwU5MXI

Is he clean?

He talks about roids so much, accusing other athletes, I would bet he's not.

Clarence is definitely not

Roids > Diet in weightlifting

auspicious · 18-07-2019 2:03pm

Mike9832 wrote: »

Is he clean?

He talks about roids so much, accusing other athletes, I would bet he's not

So by your logic anti-vegans are really vegans and vegans are really meat eaters; anti-drug campaigners are actually all drug users and anti-racists are racists.

Unless you can prove your opinion, your post is redundant.

Seanachai · 18-07-2019 2:07pm

These are exceptional people, most can't convert beta-carotene to vitamin A, we need animal fat.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/4-reasons-some-do-well-as-vegans

Mike9832 · 18-07-2019 2:25pm

auspicious wrote: »

So by your logic anti-vegans are really vegans and vegans are really meat eaters; anti-drug campaigners are actually all drug users and anti-racists are racists.

Unless you can prove your opinion, your post is redundant.

Those strength gains by those athletes are in spite of being vegan, eg they are hormonal not from any diet

auspicious · 18-07-2019 2:35pm

Mike9832 wrote: »

Those strength gains by those athletes are in spite of being vegan, eg they are hormonal not from any diet

Conjecture.

auspicious · 11-10-2019 11:38am

Link to food and what plant-based athletes eat on Thegamechangers.com

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://gamechangersmovie.com/food/&ved=2ahUKEwiTkZiqgZTlAhX1unEKHUJTBl8QjBAwAXoECAkQCQ&usg=AOvVaw27XL-jywKz52k7D-KcKkPn&cshid=1570790540099

partyguinness · 11-10-2019 11:46am

Worztron wrote: »

For the record Arnie is not vegan. I watched an interview with him from a few weeks ago and he was putting raw egg into his smoothie. In fact, he was putting the whole egg in- shell and all..:eek:

Vegans are WEAK !!!!!!!!!

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