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bloodless_coup · 04-06-2020 11:08am

Communist scum on the radio ATM.

Technocentral · 04-06-2020 11:13am

bloodless_coup wrote: »

Communist scum on the radio ATM.

Murphys a tool but I'll take him over a fascist any day.

BPKS · 04-06-2020 11:22am

Paul Murphy when asked what the police in the US should have done when they came across looters (for example the likes of the looting of the Louis Vuitton store), he said they should have taken the knee.

Basically his point is that the police are at fault for the looting.

murpho999 · 04-06-2020 11:26am

BPKS wrote: »

Paul Murphy when asked what the police in the US should have done when they came across looters (for example the likes of the looting of the Louis Vuitton store), he said they should have taken the knee.

Basically his point is that the police are at fault for the looting.

He didn't say that , he said that looting comes about from other actions and he spoke about some police taking the knee in alliance with protestors.

BPKS · 04-06-2020 11:46am

murpho999 wrote: »

He didn't say that , he said that looting comes about from other actions and he spoke about some police taking the knee in alliance with protestors.

Kenny asked him a direct question about what exactly the police should have done in situations where the rioters were looting stores.

Murphy answered that the police should have taken the knee.

Listen back to yourself Paul:D

murpho999 · 04-06-2020 12:00pm

BPKS wrote: »

Kenny asked him a direct question about what exactly the police should have done in situations where the rioters were looting stores.

Murphy answered that the police should have taken the knee.

Listen back to yourself Paul:D

Ok that's not what I heard but fair enough.

I thought it was a poor interview by him full of double standards and it's just him jumping on a populist bandwagon and no real substance behind it.

Cole · 04-06-2020 12:20pm

5555555555 wrote: »

Pat expressing surprise at the amount of pro Trump texts coming in :pac:

And then duly ignored all but one.

Cole · 04-06-2020 12:21pm

BPKS wrote: »

Paul Murphy when asked what the police in the US should have done when they came across looters (for example the likes of the looting of the Louis Vuitton store), he said they should have taken the knee.

Basically his point is that the police are at fault for the looting.

I don't think he said that either...but not far off.

murpho999 wrote: »

He didn't say that , he said that looting comes about from other actions and he spoke about some police taking the knee in alliance with protestors.

That's how I heard it, but he did seem to suggest that the police should just back off from the looters. Pat made the distinction between legitimate protesters and rioters/looters and Murphy couldn't bring himself to advocate for any kind of police intervention against the latter...then going on to imply that undercover police were acting as instigators in the looting.

I was waiting for Pat to lay into him, but it was probably best to just let him keep talking. Easily one of the most cringe inducing interviews from a politician I've ever heard.

djemba djemba · 04-06-2020 1:00pm

Cole wrote: »

I was waiting for Pat to lay into him, but it was probably best to just let him keep talking. Easily one of the most cringe inducing interviews from a politician I've ever heard.

Even worse then when he was on about nationalising the airlines because what does Willie walsh know about flying planes.

hotmail.com · 04-06-2020 1:01pm

5555555555 wrote: »

Pat expressing surprise at the amount of pro Trump texts coming in :pac:

Usual stunt to overstate the support of Trump in Ireland to give the impression of division.

Coillte_Bhoy · 04-06-2020 1:52pm

bloodless_coup wrote: »

Communist scum on the radio ATM.

He's an elected TD and represents a valid political viewpoint whatever you think.

sportsfan90 · 04-06-2020 1:56pm

Does Paul Murphy have a weekly slot with Pat or something?

I don't listen to the show every day but that must be the third time in the past 3-4 weeks he's been on the show.

Coillte_Bhoy · 04-06-2020 1:56pm

BPKS wrote: »

Kenny asked him a direct question about what exactly the police should have done in situations where the rioters were looting stores.

Murphy answered that the police should have taken the knee.

Listen back to yourself Paul:D

I dont think so, he waffling on about the widespread historical looting of american capitalism etc, i really dont know why he coudlnt just condemn looters, they are a by product of every mass protest Unfortunately. And i say that as someone who would have a bit in common with his politics

Tell me how · 04-06-2020 2:39pm

meeeeh wrote: »

You mentioned two topics, both are current and you said are the most significant topics in your life. I didn't say they should be not discussed but I certainly think describing election of Trump as one of the two most significant events of your life is a bit weird. Bush went to war in Iraq that dragged on and on and had huge geopolitical consequences. Brexit will have them too but Trump is not that significant unless you get your news from a Twitter feed. He rattles a lot but he is just one of the symptoms of wider trends...so yeah you are subscribing higher importance to anglo american events when there is shifting of power towards China (nothing to do with Corona).

And I bet you Brexit is not the topic most of the world is paying attention to. Europe is not that important anymore. You can claim that from Irish perspective but don't assume your perspective is most of the world.

I said they were two of the most, not the top two.
Also, to clarify, the election of Trump was not one of the most significant events of my life.
The process through which he has tried to change what constitutes acceptable behaviour by the President of the US and has sought to sow distrust in the media and advocating for not listening to scientific consensus, and the impact which that has had (as you yourself alluded to) in the rise of populist politicians as well as exacerbating racial divisions in a country with very emotive views on that subject most definitely has been one of the most significant events in my life to this point. Again, not 'the' most significant, one of the most significant.

No one is suggesting Brexit is of paramount importance from a global population perspective, I never suggested it was.

drunkmonkey · 04-06-2020 3:59pm

Acceptable behaviour by a US president?? Your mad Ted. I’ll say one thing in Trumps favour he’s the only US president in my lifetime that’s chosen trade wars over bombs. Slick Willy looks like he’s got some things to answer, Obama was Killarys puppet as for the bush duo, warmongering oil fanatics. It’s not right for you to say Trump is the worst of that lot. He’s probably the best. The word is a safer place with Trump at the helm.

Tell me how · 04-06-2020 4:04pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Acceptable behaviour by a US president?? Your mad Ted. I’ll say one thing in Trumps favour he’s the only US president in my lifetime that’s chosen trade wars over bombs. Slick Willy looks like he’s got some things to answer, Obama was Killarys puppet as for the bush duo, warmongering oil fanatics. It’s not right for you to say Trump is the worst of that lot. He’s probably the best. The word is a safer place with Trump at the helm.

I disagree.

drunkmonkey · 04-06-2020 4:10pm

Tell me how wrote: »

I disagree.

I’m not surprised you probably haven’t been around long enough to see a proper protest in ireland besides the water charges.
There were over 100,000 on the streets of dublin protesting a previous US presidents war on the Middle East. Trump is a long way off the killers that went before him.

Ahwell · 04-06-2020 4:23pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Trump is a long way off the killers that went before him.

There was 2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of Trump’s tenure. By comparison, there were only 1,878 in Obama’s entire eight-year administration.

drunkmonkey · 04-06-2020 4:56pm

Ahwell wrote: »

There was 2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of Trump’s tenure. By comparison, there were only 1,878 in Obama’s entire eight-year administration.

How’s the death toll under both? There’s no way Trump has a body bag count higher than Obama all things considered, roll on Obamagate.

dominatinMC · 04-06-2020 5:43pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Acceptable behaviour by a US president?? Your mad Ted. I’ll say one thing in Trumps favour he’s the only US president in my lifetime that’s chosen trade wars over bombs. Slick Willy looks like he’s got some things to answer, Obama was Killarys puppet as for the bush duo, warmongering oil fanatics. It’s not right for you to say Trump is the worst of that lot. He’s probably the best. The word is a safer place with Trump at the helm.

I don't agree with the latter half of your post, but you make a good point re. trade wars over bombs. I'm not a fan of the man, but as a president, I don't think he gets enough credit for this.

Ol' Donie · 05-06-2020 11:36am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Acceptable behaviour by a US president?? Your mad Ted. I’ll say one thing in Trumps favour he’s the only US president in my lifetime that’s chosen trade wars over bombs. Slick Willy looks like he’s got some things to answer, Obama was Killarys puppet as for the bush duo, warmongering oil fanatics. It’s not right for you to say Trump is the worst of that lot. He’s probably the best. The word is a safer place with Trump at the helm.

Killary? Jesus.

Anyway, yeah the world us a much safer place with old "I'm gonna bomb the shìt out of them. I don't care. I don't care." at the helm.

Technocentral · 09-06-2020 10:34am

Pat needs to get people to phone in much more reliable than Internet calls.

Technocentral · 09-06-2020 11:11am

Obviously people texting into radio shows know more about beating Covid 19 than those 1000 scientists.

Patrick2010 · 10-06-2020 11:25am

Some rather posh woman on now talking about how Ireland is one of the most racist countries shes been in and is not happy that Guards have been giving excessive attention to venues mainly attended by black people.

2smiggy · 10-06-2020 11:35am

emma dabiri , rather posh irish/nigerian woman. Says Ireland is the most racist place she has been, loike.

thecretinhop · 10-06-2020 11:39am

2smiggy wrote: »

emma dabiri , rather posh irish/nigerian woman. Says Ireland is the most racist place she has been, loike.

a bag of bolix.

Callan57 · 10-06-2020 11:42am

2smiggy wrote: »

emma dabiri , rather posh irish/nigerian woman. Says Ireland is the most racist place she has been, loike.

Maybe its the circles she is moving in :rolleyes:

mgn · 10-06-2020 11:46am

2smiggy wrote: »

emma dabiri , rather posh irish/nigerian woman. Says Ireland is the most racist place she has been, loike.

RTE will probably give her own show so, there will be in a panic to stick in a few token new Irish in to bash the racist Irish on a daily basis when that Ebun Joseph needs a break from her daily rant against Irish people.

jay0109 · 10-06-2020 11:49am

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Some rather posh woman on now talking about how Ireland is one of the most racist countries shes been in and is not happy that Guards have been giving excessive attention to venues mainly attended by black people.

For a woman who lives in the UK, only comes to Dublin for a 2 or 3 day break at most on an irregular basis and has an 8 month old baby...she sure did a lot of clubbing and partying here to have seen so many large Garda attendances at venues with mostly black patrons. Amazing

meeeeh · 10-06-2020 11:52am

2smiggy wrote: »

emma dabiri , rather posh irish/nigerian woman. Says Ireland is the most racist place she has been, loike.

I'm not Irish and it makes ne quite proud to be able to understand conversations in English better than natives. She said the most obvious racism was directed at her in Ireland like being called N word and similar. She did not say that Ireland is the most racist country she has lived in.

dominatinMC · 10-06-2020 11:55am

2smiggy wrote: »

emma dabiri , rather posh irish/nigerian woman. Says Ireland is the most racist place she has been, loike.

Will these people every kindly piss off and stop generalising the whole Irish population as racist. A few idiotic individuals does not make "the Irish racist".

Cole · 10-06-2020 11:58am

Emma Dabiri - I switched over when I heard Pat introduce her, so I can't comment on the interview.

If you're inclined to over intellectualise and turn everything into a complex academic argument, then the academic circles she's in just encourage this (I'm familiar with the institutions she studied/works at).

It generally just takes away from any good, relevant points she makes on racism (or whatever other issue shes's talking about). Usually painful to listen to...pseudo-intellectual echo chamber.

2smiggy · 10-06-2020 11:59am

meeeeh wrote: »

I'm not Irish and it makes ne quite proud to be able to understand conversations in English better than natives. She said the most obvious racism was directed at her in Ireland like being called N word and similar. She did not say that Ireland is the most racist country she has lived in.

so it's hidden racism in other countries ? can you explain to a 'native' ? So we are the most obviously racist, as you say, but not the most racist ???

meeeeh · 10-06-2020 11:59am

Cole wrote: »

Emma Dabiri - I switched over when I heard Pat introduce her, so I can't comment on the interview.

If you're inclined to over intellectualise and turn everything into a complex academic argument, then the academic circles she's in just encourage this (I'm familiar with the institutions she studied/works at).

It generally just takes away from any good, relevant points she makes on racism (or whatever other issue shes's talking about). Usually painful to listen to...pseudo-intellectual echo chamber.

I think by the response in this thread it was a bit to complicated for some to understand.

meeeeh · 10-06-2020 12:02pm

2smiggy wrote: »

so it's hidden racism in other countries ? can you explain to a 'native' ? So we are the most obviously racist, as you say, but not the most racist ???

I mean that English is not my first language and I am able to understand what she was actually saying and you are not. There is difference between more institutional racism and insults by idiots being shouted out.

EmmetSpiceland · 10-06-2020 12:17pm

2smiggy wrote: »

so it's hidden racism in other countries ? can you explain to a 'native' ? So we are the most obviously racist, as you say, but not the most racist ???

She said she was more likely hear racist abuse here but that there was no “institutionalised” racism here, as you would find in the US and the UK.

Would have ran into Emma, back in the day, not often but we would have had some “acquaintances” in common. She was sound then and I’m sure she’s, still, sound now.

southstar · 10-06-2020 12:29pm

meeeeh wrote: »

I mean that English is not my first language and I am able to understand what she was actually saying and you are not. There is difference between more institutional racism and insults by idiots being shouted out.

I get the difference between casual and institutional racism...but I suspect the real gripe many people have is the display of professional victimhood by SOME members of minority groups ..cheered on by the 'always available for a comment 'self righteous... and assorted mischief makers.It almost like a what's in this for me attitude...and refuses to acknowledge any form of nuance or criticism.

dominatinMC · 10-06-2020 12:37pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

She said she was more likely hear racist abuse here but that there was no “institutionalised” racism here, as you would find in the US and the UK.

Would have ran into Emma, back in the day, not often but we would have had some “acquaintances” in common. She was sound then and I’m sure she’s, still, sound now.

More likely than where? Genuine question, just wondering as I didn't hear the interview.

southstar · 10-06-2020 12:42pm

dominatinMC wrote: »

More likely than where? Genuine question, just wondering as I didn't hear the interview.

She said casual racism was more common here than UK/US...while opposite is case for institutional racism

EmmetSpiceland · 10-06-2020 1:03pm

dominatinMC wrote: »

More likely than where? Genuine question, just wondering as I didn't hear the interview.

Than when she was living in the UK or Atlanta.

She further clarified by saying she would have someone using the “N word” at her here but that wouldn’t, or was less likely to, occur in the UK or US where there was institutional racism.

2smiggy · 17-06-2020 9:13am

Mary Lou 'we will be the best opposition ever'

Pat does not seem too impressed, to say the least

padd b1975 · 17-06-2020 10:06am

2smiggy wrote: »

Mary Lou 'we will be the best opposition ever'

Pat does not seem too impressed, to say the least

Loved how he only read out the critical texts despite being most likely bombarded with pro Shinner guff from the usual suspects.

2smiggy · 17-06-2020 10:28am

listening to Eamon Ryan on now, would make a person wish that SF could have come to some sort of an agreement with FF or FG.

meeeeh · 17-06-2020 10:30am

2smiggy wrote: »

listening to Eamon Ryan on now, would make a person wish that SF could have come to some sort of an agreement with FF or FG.

Eh no.

Greens will not be cheap for business but they won't be destructive.

drunkmonkey · 17-06-2020 10:30am

2smiggy wrote: »

listening to Eamon Ryan on now, would make a person wish that SF could have come to some sort of an agreement with FF or FG.

Eamon Ryan is the fall guy, I'm surprised the greens are falling for the trap.

2smiggy · 17-06-2020 10:52am

meeeeh wrote: »

Eh no.

Greens will not be cheap for business but they won't be destructive.

only time will tell. the 'not not being cheap for business' part could be destructive enough for lots of people. Pity FF/FG could not just agree a deal with the independents. All a bit of a mess really

Callan57 · 17-06-2020 11:16am

2smiggy wrote: »

Mary Lou 'we will be the best opposition ever'

Pat does not seem too impressed, to say the least

Sounds like the "stable genius" from across the Atlantic :rolleyes:

mgn · 17-06-2020 11:17am

2smiggy wrote: »

only time will tell. the 'not not being cheap for business' part could be destructive enough for lots of people. Pity FF/FG could not just agree a deal with the independents. All a bit of a mess really

FF/FG could agree with the independents if the wanted, the wanted the Greens from day one because it's just easier to shove the Greens around.

BillyBird · 17-06-2020 12:21pm

mgn wrote: »

FF/FG could agree with the independents if the wanted, the wanted the Greens from day one because it's just easier to shove the Greens around.

Easier to negotiate with one group than 12 disparate indos all who want different things. Also easier to deal with them while in Government, the indos will hardly operate under any sort of whip.

serfboard · 17-06-2020 12:46pm

BillyBird wrote: »

Easier to negotiate with one group than 12 disparate indos all who want different things.

When you consider that the independents include the likes of Michael Lowry and the Healy-Raes then 12 desperate indos might be a better way to describe them ...

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