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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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    #362
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    I would love to see these trust fund babies try this **** in Texas or some other city or state that allows or concealed carry instead of rioting in cities with Democrat mayors who will call off the Police. Its easy to say you're willing to die for your cause when you the local will protect you.

    They are active in Texas.
    They helped out during the hurricanes in 2017 with logistics and helping people.


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    #363
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Deleted User wrote: »
    it doesnt matter what colour or creed their founder or figureheads are, they are very clearly a far-right nationalist

    I never once argued that he was not a nationalist, he is a nationalist, do you have an opinion yourself on nationalism?

    However to claim a person of colour is a white nationalist and supporter of white supremacy which 20C has done is comically stupid.


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    #364
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    I never once argued that he was not a nationalist, he is a nationalist, do you have an opinion yourself on nationalism?

    However to claim a person of colour is a white nationalist and supporter of white supremacy which 20C has done is comically stupid.

    For the third time I never said he was a white nationalist, I even put it in bold.
    His group offers a platform and an umbrella to groups like that.
    They show up at his events.
    That's the point being made.

    Thought it was clear.


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    #365
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    20Cent wrote: »
    What would you do?
    Enforce the laws. It's not that difficult an idea.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #366
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    Bus in a load of violent mouth breathing trust fund communists to clash with the alleged Nazis, burn cars, break windows, and attack random people. Sounds like a great plan for the town.

    So they are communists and attacking 'alleged' Nazis? Are you getting all the feels for the misunderstood trust fund tiki torch brigade?


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    #367
    peddlelies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    20Cent wrote: »
    They are active in Texas.
    They helped out during the hurricanes in 2017 with logistics and helping people.

    Such high morals! Please do tell us more



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    #368
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    peddlelies wrote: »
    Such high morals! Please do tell us more

    <SNIP - no need to quote video>

    Seen a similar video, antifa surround a guy that pushed through them as they were blocking the road. Antifa threw a few digs at him and the guy struck back knocking one of them out cold, at that moment antifa stopped attacking and started screaming at the cops to arrest the guy.

    They're a bunch of fanny's.


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    #369
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Note:
    Not everyone in a hoodie is antifa.
    It's probably a very small group in reality.
    They are not super soldiers turning the US communist they are just anti fascist.
    As everyone should be.


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    #370
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 39,641 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Seen a similar video, antifa surround a guy that pushed through them as they were blocking the road. Antifa threw a few digs at him and the guy struck back knocking one of them out cold, at that moment antifa stopped attacking and started screaming at the cops to arrest the guy.

    They're a bunch of fanny's.

    Wow a description of a video.

    Is this what it was like before Youtube?


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    #371
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Seen a similar video, antifa surround a guy that pushed through them as they were blocking the road. Antifa threw a few digs at him and the guy struck back knocking one of them out cold, at that moment antifa stopped attacking and started screaming at the cops to arrest the guy.

    They're a bunch of fanny's.

    Because they didn't respond in kind? Maybe our hero should have called the cops? Or is working within the law just for fannys?


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    #372
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Because they didn't respond in kind? Maybe our hero should have called the cops? Or is working within the law just for fannys?

    They had already assaulted the guy several times then when he decided to hit back he knocked one guy out and the rest backed away and start screaming for the cops.

    So they assaulted someone first and start crying when one of their comrades gets hit back.

    Have I explained well enough for you??


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    #373
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    A "Patriot Prayer" rally.

    The guy doing nazi salutes is the head of fascist group Identity Europa.
    The guy shaking his hand is Jeremy Christian who went on to murder two people on a train.
    Nice bunch of lads.


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    #374
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    20Cent wrote: »
    Kimsang wrote: »
    We're talking about Portland, not Charlottesville. Research your facts jesus...

    America is a big place, theres more than one city there.

    Ignore bigger points made and go for symantics.




    Hi Kimsang.
    There are regular marches of nazis in your town,
    They won't be banned.
    The cops won't stop them.

    What would you do?

    But here's the problem, Neo Nazi's are absolutely despicable human beings, I've no interest in the opinion of anyone who might suggest otherwise, but whilst I consider Nazi's as to be those who subscribe to authoritarian views, white supremacy, and fascist ideology, Antifa, who by name are anti fascist but by action are the very definition of a fascist group, believe everyone who dares not join their little club as Nazi's.

    If you see practically everyone who disagrees with your authoritarian views as a Nazi, you really are going to live a paranoid existence.


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    #375
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    But here's the problem, Neo Nazi's are absolutely despicable human beings, I've no interest in the opinion of anyone who might suggest otherwise, but whilst I consider Nazi's as to be those who subscribe to authoritarian views, white supremacy, and fascist ideology, Antifa, who by name are anti fascist but by action are the very definition of a fascist group, believe everyone who dares not join their little club as Nazi's.

    If you see practically everyone who disagrees with your authoritarian views as a Nazi, you really are going to live a paranoid existence.

    But that's not true.
    They don't "see practically everyone who disagrees with your authoritarian views as a Nazi".

    If they did they would be a lot busier than they are!


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    #376
    Harvey Weinstein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    Friendly reminder that the group responsible for the murder of Lyra McKee are heavily linked with Antifa.

    Those defending them here should disavow immediately.


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    #377
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Hoodie = "heavily linked"

    It has no formal organisation or membership.


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    #378
    Mr Karadzic
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Mr Karadzic


    Harvey Weinstein wrote: »
    Friendly reminder that the group responsible for the murder of Lyra McKee are heavily linked with Antifa.

    Those defending them here should disavow immediately.

    Talk about scraping the barrell. No normal person would be involved with these cretins.


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    #379
    Harvey Weinstein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    20Cent wrote: »
    Hoodie = "heavily linked"

    It has no formal organisation or membership.

    Will you disavow?


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    #380
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    20Cent wrote: »
    Never said Gibson is a white nationalist.
    I even put it in bold.
    He's not a white nationalist but the group which he founded and remains leader of is? You realise that makes as much sense as suggesting Mark Zuckerberg is a luddite, it's a mind boggingly stupid accusation.
    20Cent wrote: »
    Patriot prayer organised it. It's well established they are a far right white nationalist


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    #381
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    He's not a white nationalist but the group which he founded and remains leader of is? You realise that makes as much sense as suggesting Mark Zuckerberg is a luddite, it's a mind boggingly stupid accusation.

    He's not the brightest spark.
    In a real fourth reich himself and Ngo would be off to the camps.
    Antifa are doing him a favour.


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    #382
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Harvey Weinstein wrote: »
    Will you disavow?

    disavow who?


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    #383
    _blaaz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    20Cent wrote: »
    disavow who?

    I think means saoradh?


    Dunno why like.....irish republicans have been involved in fight againest facism since the blueshirts were in their pomp here


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    #384
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    _blaaz wrote: »
    I think means saoradh?


    Dunno why like.....irish republicans have been involved in fight againest facism since the blueshirts were in their pomp here

    Where does murdering journalists fit in with this fight against facism? Or maybe she wasnt a real journalist I'm not sure if she was or not.


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    #385
    Venom
    Registered Users Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    20Cent wrote: »
    But that's not true.
    They don't "see practically everyone who disagrees with your authoritarian views as a Nazi".

    If they did they would be a lot busier than they are!


    Why do they block off streets and abuse normal people just going about their everyday business?




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    #386
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    20Cent wrote: »
    A "Patriot Prayer" rally.

    The guy doing nazi salutes is the head of fascist group Identity Europa.
    The guy shaking his hand is Jeremy Christian who went on to murder two people on a train.
    Nice bunch of lads.


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    What’s this got to with the masked white thugs beating up the gay Asian journalist again?

    He’s not a member of proud boy abd wasn’t fighting with them.

    This is a bad look.


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    #387
    _blaaz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Where does murdering journalists fit in with this fight against facism? Or maybe she wasnt a real journalist I'm not sure if she was or not.

    Tbf noone is defending that (she was killed off a richohet btw,manslaughter not murder mate)


    But meh,just pointing out the historic and troubled relationship between irish patriots and facists.....rant away all yous want though,let it all out


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    #388
    peddlelies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    20Cent wrote: »
    A "Patriot Prayer" rally.

    You're equating criticizing one movement with praising another. You're highly hypocritical in your pick and choosing of Nazi's then defending Antifa when they commit vandalism or attack nonthreatening individuals in a group.

    There's no end goal at all, they don't achieve a thing besides escalating violence and being a pain in the arse for cities to deal with. A year ago nobody would have been swinging crowbars during those fights, it won't be long before knifes are common.

    Some Neo Nazi isn't going to give up his beliefs because he got punched in the face by a guy in a mask. If anything all they're doing is making people more radicalized, on both sides. You can see that with the formation of groups like Proud Boys who's sole purpose was just to pummel Antifa guys.

    Genuinely, long term, what do you think is going to happen? Nothing good will come out of it, they're achieving the opposite of what their "goals" are. Personally I'll stick with the DHS description, they are Domestic terrorists and were the chief perpetrators of violence in 2016 during election year.


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    #389
    Venom
    Registered Users Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    _blaaz wrote: »
    Tbf noone is defending that (she was killed off a richohet btw,manslaughter not murder mate)


    But meh,just pointing out the historic and troubled relationship between irish patriots and facists.....rant away all yous want though,let it all out


    You mean the Irish patriots who were quite happy to jump into bed with the Nazis?


    https://www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary-history/new-evidence-on-iranazi-links/


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    #390
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    _blaaz wrote: »
    Tbf noone is defending that (she was killed off a richohet btw,manslaughter not murder mate)


    But meh,just pointing out the historic and troubled relationship between irish patriots and facists.....rant away all yous want though,let it all out

    But I dont understand how "Irish patriots" as you call them can be anti fascist but also murder and mame innocent people. It doesent make sense.


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    #391
    klaaaz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    Harvey Weinstein wrote: »
    Will you disavow?

    Patty is missed.


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