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Should we be wary of celebrating the moon landings given it was white and male?

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    #62
    [Deleted User]
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    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    That was also going on of course.
    But compared to the rest of the world, which would not be so democratic to our standards today, they made amazing improvements.

    After they got rid of the 50 million or so who didn't understand their vision things went really well.


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    #63
    InTheShadows
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    All part of the wider agenda to make white men seem guilty for being a white man.


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    #64
    coffee_cake
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    The culture that put men on the moon was intense
    well... yeah

    as opposed to what, a bit of a lark


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    #65
    Wibbs
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    Well they're American news outlets and beyond the clickbait aspect, which in many ways is a symptom of where western society is going rather than a cause, America is a culture increasingly unsure of itself. The whole Apollo project reflects the turning point where it happened.

    When Kennedy pulled the whole let's go to the moon, America was very sure of herself. There were concerns among many at the cost what with poverty and Vietnam going on, but they were in the end confident that they could do it and they did and when they did it was the high watermark of 20th century America.

    But at that peak from Apollo 11 to 17 Vietnam went to hell, the oil crisis was rumbling, civil rights marches, Nixon and the government itself shook and looked rotten to the core. After that it didn't look so shiny and trust in "big" government went south in a big way.

    Fast forward to a generation or so later and even more public issues within America and a drop in education standards and the interwebs and you have BS like these articles. If you ever hang out in US based forums and the like it's scary how many of them are cock sure they didn't go to the moon(never mind their cultural paranoia in general much of it along identity politics lines). It just doesn't compute for them. They want to believe in their lack of trust more than reality, hell, even the hope that they did something like that.

    The big problem for the rest of us in the west is that the Americans are exporting this nonsense through the internet and too bloody many are happily importing it.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #66
    Dufflecoat Fanny
    Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Is all this nonsense a type of masochism?


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    #67
    blinding
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    Dufflecoat Fanny wrote: »
    Is all this nonsense a type of masochism?
    Or Fem-ochism !:eek:


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    #68
    suicide_circus
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    i think we should stop using or celebrating anything invented, discovered or founded by old dead white men. Things such as the internet, electricity, motorised transport, certain vaccines - that kind of thing. But i think we should start with the the work of HJ Raymond and Stilson Hutchins; the two old dead white men who founded The New York Times and The Washington Post.


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    #69
    blinding
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    i think we should stop using or celebrating anything invented, discovered or founded by old dead white men. Things such as the internet, electricity, motorised transport, certain vaccines - that kind of thing. But i think we should start with the the work of HJ Raymond and Stilson Hutchins; the two old dead white men who founded The New York Times and The Washington Post.
    What have Old Dead / Alive White Men Ever done For Us ?:eek:;):D:p


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    #70
    suicide_circus
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    Dufflecoat Fanny wrote: »
    Is all this nonsense a type of masochism?

    Ethnomasochism
    noun
    (politics, derogatory) Self-loathing on the grounds of one's own race


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    #71
    Wheety
    Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    They should do an article on how all American presidents up to 2009 were white males.


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    #72
    is_that_so
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    Remarkable achievement for all involved. Meanwhile ...


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    #73
    is_that_so
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Ethnomasochism
    noun
    (politics, derogatory) Self-loathing on the grounds of one's own race

    Or how to keep pushing your agenda by piggybacking on anything you can link it to.


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    #74
    Danzy
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    The modern Left and progressive movements are largely of the Middle and Upper Classes.

    Self flagellation is indulgent


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    #75
    Tony EH
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    The only way to make this shite go away is to STOP CLICKING ON RUBBISH THAT YOU KNOW WILL OUTRAGE YOU.

    ;)


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    #76
    suicide_circus
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    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/american-racial-self-flagellation-is-on-its-way-to-british-schools/

    this stuff is evil. literally evil and must be fought tooth and nail.


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    #77
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Humanity needs a reboot. I think it’s time for a nuclear war or some deadly virus to wipe out 90% of us…

    If I had the means and the way(which I don’t) I’d release that virus ala 12 monkeys…


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    #78
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »
    What utter and complete horseshït. Hitler was a white man as were the entire third reich, are they going to express the same sentiment in regard to them? No of course they’re not.
    They are still denying the existence of the secret Nazi moon base that proves whitey got there first.


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    #79
    suicide_circus
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    Well they're American news outlets and beyond the clickbait aspect, which in many ways is a symptom of where western society is going rather than a cause, America is a culture increasingly unsure of itself. The whole Apollo project reflects the turning point where it happened.

    When Kennedy pulled the whole let's go to the moon, America was very sure of herself. There were concerns among many at the cost what with poverty and Vietnam going on, but they were in the end confident that they could do it and they did and when they did it was the high watermark of 20th century America.

    But at that peak from Apollo 11 to 17 Vietnam went to hell, the oil crisis was rumbling, civil rights marches, Nixon and the government itself shook and looked rotten to the core. After that it didn't look so shiny and trust in "big" government went south in a big way.

    Fast forward to a generation or so later and even more public issues within America and a drop in education standards and the interwebs and you have BS like these articles. If you ever hang out in US based forums and the like it's scary how many of them are cock sure they didn't go to the moon(never mind their cultural paranoia in general much of it along identity politics lines). It just doesn't compute for them. They want to believe in their lack of trust more than reality, hell, even the hope that they did something like that.

    The big problem for the rest of us in the west is that the Americans are exporting this nonsense through the internet and too bloody many are happily importing it.
    it's like watching a beloved relation deteriorate mentally. sad.


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    #80
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The modern Left and progressive movements are also self obsessed and a bit lazy. Liking a cause but not difficult hours activism


    Identity politics was a way of making oneself the focus of the struggle, rather than those scabbie proles in their terraced houses with their wrong views, **** em.

    There are a lot of people in the Left who dislike the working-class, vehemently.


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    #81
    Poor Uncle Tom
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    Well they're American news outlets and beyond the clickbait aspect, which in many ways is a symptom of where western society is going rather than a cause, America is a culture increasingly unsure of itself. The whole Apollo project reflects the turning point where it happened.

    When Kennedy pulled the whole let's go to the moon, America was very sure of herself. There were concerns among many at the cost what with poverty and Vietnam going on, but they were in the end confident that they could do it and they did and when they did it was the high watermark of 20th century America.

    But at that peak from Apollo 11 to 17 Vietnam went to hell, the oil crisis was rumbling, civil rights marches, Nixon and the government itself shook and looked rotten to the core. After that it didn't look so shiny and trust in "big" government went south in a big way.

    Fast forward to a generation or so later and even more public issues within America and a drop in education standards and the interwebs and you have BS like these articles. If you ever hang out in US based forums and the like it's scary how many of them are cock sure they didn't go to the moon(never mind their cultural paranoia in general much of it along identity politics lines). It just doesn't compute for them. They want to believe in their lack of trust more than reality, hell, even the hope that they did something like that.

    The big problem for the rest of us in the west is that the Americans are exporting this nonsense through the internet and too bloody many are happily importing it.

    We live in the same world now as we did then and the world is more or less the same as it was then with one major difference. This post is probably even an example of it :), The internet has held a microphone up to everybodys mouth, resulting in the loony's voices now being heard, they were always there it's just that nobody paid any attention to them. People were able to decipher news from dross, but not any more, now they are all being presented the same with the result that peoples attention is being held by the white noise of nonsense.

    America needs a new focus, something worthwhile, something for the world to focus on, to get behind. It's a shame we don't have a second moon, maybe we could make one.......


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    #82
    Luxxis
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭Luxxis


    Beanntraigheach wrote: »
    Actually it wouldn't be a bad idea to send a team of women to the Moon next.

    The men left a bit of a mess behind them that badly needs cleaning up.

    Will never happen. landing a spaceship is like parking a spaceship!

    Check mate.... :)


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    #83
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Ethnomasochism
    noun
    (politics, derogatory) Self-loathing on the grounds of one's own race
    Good bit of it among Irish people too - whether it's "I'm so above those unsophisticated plebs" or "we can't talk - we had the Magdalene laundries". Idiots.


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    #84
    HappyAsLarE
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    White men have achieved so much, I’m so proud of them...no wait...I’m so ashamed is what I meant.


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    #85
    seamus
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    A generation of panzies that couldn't wire a plug or cook a meal or go 5 minutes without their phone or understand how to cope with rejection would make you dispair alright.
    Nonsense tbh. Rose tinted glasses.

    I bet your father believed your generation were pansies with no life skills.

    I bet the parents of those who died in Normandy all believed their kids were being brought up soft and with no life skills.

    Every generation thinks the next one is ridiculous, aimless and ruining society. Then they become the 50+ generation, realise they've been left behind and that they're the ones lacking critical modern life skills, not the other way around.


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    #86
    blinding
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    White Men are Great . Really Great .


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    #87
    gozunda
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    seamus wrote: »
    Nonsense tbh. Rose tinted glasses.I bet your father believed your generation were pansies with no life skills.
    I bet the parents of those who died in Normandy all believed their kids were being brought up soft and with no life skills.Every generation thinks the next one is ridiculous, aimless and ruining society. Then they become the 50+ generation, realise they've been left behind and that they're the ones lacking critical modern life skills, not the other way around.


    Or the alternative is that we really are now in the age of online idiots ...


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    #88
    Silentcorner
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/american-racial-self-flagellation-is-on-its-way-to-british-schools/

    this stuff is evil. literally evil and must be fought tooth and nail.

    There are those two words again..."unconscious bias"....it is a stunning example of a complete capitulation into nothing more than ideology, what about the "unconscious bias" of those who are preaching about our "unconscious biases"....ideologues have abandoned self awareness, and these lunatics think of themselves as progressives!!!

    This nonsense is coming from the political left...is anyone surprised at all that Americans elected Donald Trump!


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    #89
    Tony EH
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    Danzy wrote: »
    The modern Left and progressive movements are also self obsessed and a bit lazy. Liking a cause but not difficult hours activism


    Identity politics was a way of making oneself the focus of the struggle, rather than those scabbie proles in their terraced houses with their wrong views, **** em.

    There are a lot of people in the Left who dislike the working-class, vehemently.

    This has fuck all to do with "the left".

    And everything to do with monetising internet clicks on silly articles that fools press the button on so they can steam about how crazy the world is.

    If anything, it shows how shitty American politics can pollute the minds of everyone far from its shores.


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    #90
    tigerboon
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    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    The US and the world made great strides in both technological advancements with the apollo moon landings and social justice with Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights, no one was saying life was perfect then, but there's so many miserable people out there and who can't help but find faults in everything.

    Margaret Hamilton led a huge team in developing the trajectory programme. Probably one of the most important people on the project.
    A the time Nasa probably thought they needed men due to the stresses involved in take off etc. Also, there was a very real chance they wouldn't be coming back.


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    #91
    Luxxis
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    seamus wrote: »
    Nonsense tbh. Rose tinted glasses.

    I bet your father believed your generation were pansies with no life skills.

    I bet the parents of those who died in Normandy all believed their kids were being brought up soft and with no life skills.

    Every generation thinks the next one is ridiculous, aimless and ruining society. Then they become the 50+ generation, realise they've been left behind and that they're the ones lacking critical modern life skills, not the other way around.

    I would applaud this but applauding triggers me..


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