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US congresswomen refuse to condemn brutal attack on ICE facility.

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    #452
    pjohnson
    Registered Users Posts: 23,242 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Yes

    He cant do that to his voters. They know they cant reuse #LockHerUp or #BuildTheWall again he needs a new barrel slogan. Very suprising he even went as far as he did.


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    #453
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Meanwhile, the squad just keep lying to the American public and stoking up the dangerous narrative that Trump hates all people of colour and wants them deported.


    https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1152748499840249857


    The above clip she includes to support her ridiculous assertion is of course based on a false equivalence as there's a HUGE difference between critiquing economic policy and poor administrative decisions (and that's all the comments such as 'American's going to hell / becoming a third world country' are) with saying America and it's current adminstration is as fascist as Nazi Germany was.


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    #454
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Oh and good to see that, while the four horsewomen of the apocalypse are clearly doing their best to play the racecard in an effort to oust Trump, many 'people of colour' aren't buying into it and can actually (sad as it might be to the liberals) think for themselves and are basing their views on Donald Trump on more than what a few upstarts have to say about him:


    https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1152191081313918977
    https://twitter.com/realkareemdream/status/1137019897366683659
    https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1153005342684569601
    https://twitter.com/realBenjiIrby/status/1152997953986080768


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    #455
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    MrFresh wrote: »
    He said they were from other countries. Is that not foreign?

    Quotation marks were used on the word foreign which is why I asked where Trump had said it and just because someone is from another country doesn't make negative comments about them racist.
    Odhinn wrote: »
    He tells them to go back where they came from. Logically this carries the implication that they are foriegn and from elsewhere. It takes a large degree of intellectual dishonesty to come to any other conclusion.

    That doesn't make it racist and he didn't merely tell them to go back to where they came from. He asked why they (Omar and AOC) don't return to the countries they are from, sort their problems out, and then come back and tell them how they did it........ much different to what you, and other liberals, are suggesting.

    Yes, it's true AOC is American born, but being wrong on that count just makes him wrong on that count...... it doesn't make him racist. He'd have said it no matter what colour they are and no matter which country they are from. He's an economic nationalist, not a white supremacist... and if you want to accuse him of the latter, then you'll have to do better.


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    #456
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    ...................

    That doesn't make it racist and he didn't merely tell them to go back to where they came from. He asked why they (Omar and AOC) don't return to the countries they are from, sort their problems out, and then come back and tell them how they did it........ much different to what you, and other liberals, are suggesting.

    ........................


    You could take it as racist. He was in a spat with Arnold Swarchnegger and managed not to tell him to go back to Austria.



    He tells them to go back where they came from. Logically this carries the implication that they are foriegn and from elsewhere. It takes a large degree of intellectual dishonesty to come to any other conclusion.


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    #457
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »

    Yes, it's true AOC is American born, but being wrong on that count just makes him wrong on that count...... it doesn't make him racist.

    Ah come on. Why did he ask her to return home? What made him assume she wasn't at home?


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    #458
    _blaaz
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    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    That doesn't make it racist and he didn't merely tell them to go back to where they came from. He asked why they (Omar and AOC) don't return to the countries they are from, sort their problems out, and then come back and tell them how they did it........ much different to what you, and other liberals, are suggesting.

    Your jumping through illogical hoops to justify wrong doing


    Usually simplest answer is the right one??,ie hes a racist or at best,he isnt but using increasingly racist rethoric to distract from.what is a shambolic regime


    Ive been very disapointed with him...taught he could done good job and be a bit of a laugh aswel (no need for life to be taken too serious imo)


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    #459
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Slight off topic but in the swim vein.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-media-savaged-trump-when-he-claimed-puerto-rico-officials-were-mismanaging-disaster-aid-but-he-was-right%3f_amp=true

    When trump was calling out the Puerto Rican government as corrupt, the dems were savaging him calling him, again racist.

    And again… he was right.


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    #460
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    mad muffin wrote: »

    And again… he was right.

    Again? As in he was right that these people should go.. back where they came from?


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    #461
    s7ryf3925pivug
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    AOC is like a distillation of my favorite aspects of American people. She is very much an American.

    Trump isn’t. His sort of rich asshole is international.

    ...that’s how the dems can get the swing voters. Not by finding an inoffensive centrist. They out-American him, and push that angle.


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    #462
    alastair
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    The brass neck of posters attempting to claim Trump isn’t racist. He’s always been racist. This isn’t news.


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    #463
    InTheShadows
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    AOC is a nasty nasty piece of work. Using the poor unfortunates that have lost their lives attempting to illegally cross the border to further her career tells me all i need to know about her.


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    #464
    The Enbalmer
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    Daphne Disgusting Pasta wrote: »
    AOC is like a distillation of my favorite aspects of American people. She is very much an American.

    Trump isn’t. His sort of rich asshole is international.

    ...that’s how the dems can get the swing voters. Not by finding an inoffensive centrist. They out-American him, and push that angle.


    Can you people NEVER make a point without stooping to cheap insults?


    Although you gave away your bias there..you actually have a problem with rich people as well as white,straight people.


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    #465
    The Enbalmer
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    You could take it as racist. He was in a spat with Arnold Swarchnegger and managed not to tell him to go back to Austria.


    .


    You take EVERYTHING as racist..Shouting racist at everything you don't understand is your entire world.

    The real world (that outside your online bubble) doesn't give a good damn about your disingenous labels.


    There's plenty of REAL racism in south africa but i don't ever see you referring to that..why is not? Because the victims are white?



    Who's the racist now?


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    #466
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    When crowds at his rallies start a chant he has always responded positively to them by motioning for them to get louder, or even at times, joining in.... and so not responding to them was showing character given that it was a clear departure from what he normally does.

    What do you want him to do? Start telling everyone off? While the teleprompter rolled? Give me a break.

    Yes indeed but he couldn't because he agreed with them.


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    #467
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Oh and good to see that, while the four horsewomen of the apocalypse are clearly doing their best to play the racecard in an effort to oust Trump, many 'people of colour' aren't buying into it and can actually (sad as it might be to the liberals) think for themselves and are basing their views on Donald Trump on more than what a few upstarts have to say about him:


    https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1152191081313918977
    https://twitter.com/realkareemdream/status/1137019897366683659
    https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1153005342684569601
    https://twitter.com/realBenjiIrby/status/1152997953986080768

    In other words economics, healthcare, the state of government don't matter here. The only thing that does is that "liberals" are annoyed.


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    #468
    The Enbalmer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭The Enbalmer


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    In other words economics, healthcare, the state of government don't matter here. The only thing that does is that "liberals" are annoyed.


    Are you american?


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    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    The Enbalmer wrote: »
    Can you people NEVER make a point without stooping to cheap insults?


    Although you gave away your bias there..you actually have a problem with rich people as well as white,straight people.
    I have a problem with none of them, I am most/all of them depending on how you see it. However people higher up the social hierarchy tend to be more similar to other very rich people in other countries. My own accent is south dubli but is taken to be American sometimes and English very occasionally - by other Irish people. People from poorer areas tend to have strong regional accents.


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    #470
    The Enbalmer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭The Enbalmer


    Daphne Disgusting Pasta wrote:
    I have a problem with none of them, I am most/all of them depending on how you see it. However people higher up the social hierarchy tend to be more similar to other very rich people in other countries. My own accent is south dubli but is taken to be American sometimes and English very occasionally - by other Irish people. People from poorer areas tend to have strong regional accents.

    Sorry I have no idea what you're trying to articulate.


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    #471
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    :D so on the money :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bhdUNuT5RQ


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    #472
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    The Enbalmer wrote: »
    Are you american?

    I work for the American government.


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    #473
    MrFresh
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    The Enbalmer wrote: »
    You take EVERYTHING as racist..Shouting racist at everything you don't understand is your entire world.

    The real world (that outside your online bubble) doesn't give a good damn about your disingenous labels.


    There's plenty of REAL racism in south africa but i don't ever see you referring to that..why is not? Because the victims are white?



    Who's the racist now?


    Still Trump.


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    The Enbalmer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭The Enbalmer


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Still Trump.


    "There are none so blind as those that will not see"


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    #475
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    The Enbalmer wrote: »
    "There are none so blind as those that will not see"


    I'm sure you'll open your eyes eventually.


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    #476
    The Enbalmer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭The Enbalmer


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I work for the American government.




    And you're on here spouting rhetoric about the president?


    Do they realise they have a snake in the grass i wonder?


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    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    The Enbalmer wrote: »
    And you're on here spouting rhetoric about the president?


    Do they realise they have a snake in the grass i wonder?


    Loyalty more important than morality?


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    #478
    The Enbalmer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭The Enbalmer


    MrFresh wrote: »
    I'm sure you'll open your eyes eventually.


    Mine are open dear friend..as is my mind.


    Having analysed both sides in this anti-trump "discussion" i have come to the conclusion that those who vilify the man based on conjecture and falsification are the ones who cannot be educated.


    Much like the anti "gubbermint" rabble on FB...they have really nothing to say so fall back on the ancient technique of name-calling..it's a notable feature of the unintelligent.


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    #479
    The Enbalmer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭The Enbalmer


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Loyalty more important than morality?


    Well he's taking a salary from those he disagrees with. Sounds like hipocracy to me.

    Why not have the power of your convictions and leave..maybe seek a job working for one of the Sharia muslim states..i'm sure he will find their politics more to his taste...fewer pesky "white men" too.


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    #480
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    The Enbalmer wrote: »
    they have really nothing to say so fall back on the ancient technique of name-calling..it's a notable feature of the unintelligent.

    You couldn't even finish your own sentence without falling back on the ancient technique of name-calling.


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    #481
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    The Enbalmer wrote: »
    Mine are open dear friend..as is my mind.


    Having analysed both sides in this anti-trump "discussion" i have come to the conclusion that those who vilify the man based on conjecture and falsification are the ones who cannot be educated.


    Much like the anti "gubbermint" rabble on FB...they have really nothing to say so fall back on the ancient technique of name-calling..it's a notable feature of the unintelligent.
    Agreed

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump


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