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Height of Depression

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    #32
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Church on Tuesday wrote: »
    There is something pretty grim about a rainy Sunday.

    Sure didn't U2 write a song about how depressing Sundays are..?


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    #33
    One eyed Jack
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    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    Look up the word depression.

    Then be grateful you don't have it if this is all that "depresses" you.


    I did exactly as you suggested, I looked up the word depression, and the circumstances the OP has described fits the bill -


    Depression is a state of low mood and aversion to activity. It can affect a person's thoughts, behavior, motivation, feelings, and sense of well-being. It may feature sadness, difficulty in thinking and concentration and a significant increase/decrease in appetite and time spent sleeping, and people experiencing depression may have feelings of dejection, hopelessness and, sometimes, suicidal thoughts. It can either be short term or long term. Depressed mood is a symptom of some mood disorders such as major depressive disorder or dysthymia; it is a normal temporary reaction to life events, such as the loss of a loved one; and it is also a symptom of some physical diseases and a side effect of some drugs and medical treatments.


    Depression (mood)


    That being said, I wouldn’t recommend anyone rely on the internet to start self-diagnosing. I would encourage people to visit their GP if they find they are experiencing difficulties with their mental health in the same way I’d recommend someone experiencing difficulties with their physical health, the first thing they should do is make an appointment with their GP. That way they receive a legitimate diagnosis from someone who is qualified at least to perform a cursory initial examination, and not just some random person on the Internet with their own ideas as to what constitutes depression.


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    #34
    harry Bailey esq
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    gifted wrote: »
    Find a new pub

    Hopefully not one of my regular haunts, of which there are roughly a dozen...


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    #35
    Larbre34
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    OP feels melancholic in pub with no atmosphere. Thats not depression. The heights (depths) of depression would keep you away from the pub, would mean you would scarcely notice any music, never mind what songs and what station is on and many other life limiting mental paralyses.

    My advice, never drink alone and find something better to do than visiting pubs during the day when they're dead or you really may have depressive illness to cope with


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    #36
    Bobblehats
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    What is the height of Depression for you ??? For example your in a venue and a certain song or person comes on and you immediately feel depressed

    Mine is sitting in a quite pub with those corny classic radio stations (RTE gold) on. Just so depressing and really doesn't help the atmosphere.

    Height of depression is looking at things like beams and doorknobs in a new light. You’ve not even entry level!


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    #37
    One eyed Jack
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    Bobblehats wrote: »
    Height of depression is looking at things like beams and doorknobs in a new light. You’ve not even entry level!


    Sounds like you’re describing thetan level achievements in Scientology tbh with that post.


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    #38
    Bobblehats
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    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    Sounds like you’re describing thetan level achievements in Scientology tbh with that post.

    Ok maybe light is the wrong choice


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    #39
    DareGod
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    Ffs lads, you all know full well what the OP was referring to. Considering the fact that yee know well how serious actual depression is you'd think you wouldn't make such a big issue out of something as trivial as someone using a word incorrectly in a boards thread. There is a genuinely wonderful thread about depression in this forum already - if you feel the need to talk about depression you know that that's the thread to be in, instead of self-indulgently using an unrelated thread to act "more informed" than others. It's pure attention seeking.

    OP, something that makes me feel very temporarily miserable is seeing back to school ads when the summer holidays have only begun *shudder.*


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    #40
    One eyed Jack
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    Bobblehats wrote: »
    Ok maybe light is the wrong choice


    Ahh I was only messing, there’s enough people getting anxious about how people express themselves in this thread already without adding to it :D

    Ironically, policing how other people express themselves is one of the leading causes of people losing hope and experiencing low self-esteem which in turn are two of the leading causes of ill mental health best described as depression!

    Awkward.


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    #41
    mistersifter
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    What is the height of Depression for you ??? For example your in a venue and a certain song or person comes on and you immediately feel depressed

    Mine is sitting in a quite pub with those corny classic radio stations (RTE gold) on. Just so depressing and really doesn't help the atmosphere.

    I'd feel WAY worse in some packed-out night club where you cant hear yourself speak over Rhianna and Beyonce songs; some overpriced kip full of people that model themselves on reality tv 'celebs'.


    give me the quiet RTE gold pub any day over that!


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    #42
    Yamanoto
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    OP, how dare you liken your momentary misery to depression.

    Real depression is being completely unable to function as a sentient being, save for the 63.77 posts per day one somehow manages to post to Boards.


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    #43
    GoneHome
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    mistersifter wrote: »
    I'd feel WAY worse in some packed-out night club where you cant hear yourself speak over Rhianna and Beyonce songs; some overpriced kip full of people that model themselves on reality tv 'celebs'.


    give me the quiet RTE gold pub any day over that!

    +1 to that sentiment every time, I don't know this whole depression thing is over exactarated big time from what I can see, as I said in another thread earlier there are three people in our circle claiming "disability allowance" for "depression" and they're no more depressed than my dog, it's purely to get a free €200 per week on the Social (two of them working cash in hand as well as claiming), I'm getting very fed up of it to the point that next week I'm going to report the two that I know to the Department, feck that myself and OH are the fools getting up for work at 6 in the morning to be paying for these scrongers


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    #44
    Irish Praetorian
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    mistersifter wrote: »
    I'd feel WAY worse in some packed-out night club where you cant hear yourself speak over Rhianna and Beyonce songs; some overpriced kip full of people that model themselves on reality tv 'celebs'.


    give me the quiet RTE gold pub any day over that!

    Yeah maybe there is a distinction going on here between peoples meanings of depression.

    Speaking from my own experience, theres no real hard and fast rule of sad/depressing places. I could be alone in a dingy room reading old books and I might be content as you like. On other hand, I was actually at a family gather of sorts to celebrity a milestone birthday, surrounded by family (all of whom Im on decent terms with) good food and drink, all I could do was just try and keep my eye off the pile of steakknives in the corner.

    Its really in the eye of the beholder I think; an old pub might be a reminder of happy memories to one and a grim reminder of death to others. Cest la vie I suppose.


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    #45
    Rothko
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    Way too many people are taking the OP's post literally.

    Anyway, myself, I really hate overcast days where you can't even see bit of blue in the sky.


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    #46
    fryup
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    hearing irish people sing....

    olé olé olé olé olé

    and my heart sinks and i rest my head in my hands :o


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    #47
    [Deleted User]
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    OP, my post is an honest account of my experience with clinical depression however I do know exactly what you mean. Just like someone else posted a person can be 'starving' but not really. We can be sensitive regarding certain words.

    Since the stigma surrounding mental illness has started to lift there have been an influx of people saying they are depressed or suffer from anxiety. Its impossibly to know with any certainty because the human experience is far from quantifiable. There are a number of factors needed in order to give a formal diagnosis of clinical depression but even then it can manifest differently from person to person.

    These are;
    An obvious disinterest in most or all activities.
    A change in eating habits leading to significant weight loss or weight gain.
    Trouble sleeping or excessive sleeping.
    Fatigue or loss of energy.
    Feeling worthless.
    Difficulty concentrating.
    Indecisiveness.
    Intrusive thoughts of death or suicide, including suicidal ideation and/or planning.

    These symptoms combined will lead to a person being unable to live their lives fully. It truly is a horrible illness. That doesn't mean though that it needs to be a sacred cow. Its important to discuss how clinical depression impacts people and also how certain people will latch on to the label because it feeds their victim mentality or use it to avoid personal responsibility. For some there is something very seductive about being mentally unwell.

    To Gonehome, Claiming DA on the basis of a diagnosis is a personal issue and no matter how aggrieved you feel it's unfair to assume they aren't being truthful. Do you have evidence?


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    #48
    ChikiChiki
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    Bed for 4 weeks. Employer calling relentlessly after 2. Sitting in the shower for hours straight with the warm water the only comfort. Keeping quiet in room so housemate would not cop it. Avoiding all human contact. Not nice at all.

    Horrific actually :-( . Nobody knows except a therapist.


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    #49
    Irish Guitarist
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    I guarantee you if someone on a thread said "that's really retarded" and I complained about the word retarded being offensive, posters would be jumping all over me saying some shite like "language has evolved" or "he wasn't talking about physically or mentally disabled people".

    As soon as someone mentions depression in a non literal sense though everyone is up in arms. It's the same if someone says "I'm really OCD" when they don't literally have obsessive compulsive disorder. There will be dozens of posters having a go about how OCD is a really debilitating disorder.

    I find it odd. And really depressing too.


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    #50
    endacl
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    I have OCDC.

    Same as regular OCD, but it rocks.


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    #51
    Hobosan
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    Everytime I hear about a death on Everest. The depression is extremely mild, but the height... lads, the height is no joke.


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    #52
    cursai
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    Coming down off a yoke in the middle of a faithless gig is very depressing. Not being bored in a pub.


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    #53
    PTH2009
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    Wasant thinking right and meant misery rather than depression

    Suffer from depression myself and I knw its not a joke


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    #54
    [Deleted User]
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    About 4' 2". Anything higher than that then you're into Man United fan territory.


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    #55
    wotzgoingon
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    I was born depressed. The doctor put me on anti depressants 5 minutes after I was born.



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    #56
    ZookeeperDub
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057998526/height-of-depression

    You are aware alcohol is a depressant



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    #57
    Greyfox
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/110749655#Comment_110749655

    That was a brilliant thread, it drastically improved my understanding of depression



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    #58
    ThePentagon
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/110749347#Comment_110749347

    I notice that as well. I thought maybe it was the case that depressives gravitate to boards (or forums like it), perhaps because it may be a relatively safe place to socialise/communicate with others.



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    #59
    iamstop
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/110748994#Comment_110748994

    I love going for walks in the rain.

    https://open.spotify.com/album/69JKwCcZGdLqX4Upj3DwP7



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    #60
    Thelonious Monk
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    Irish weather is the height of depression, there are few places in the civilised world that get worse summers



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    #61
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    Moderate weather (mild, not warm - mixture of sunshine and showers, breeze or wind) suits me fine. Beats monsoon/floods, desert heat, and humidity where it's hard to breathe. It would be nicer if there was more consistent sun, but you'd swear it was extreme here. It's the opposite.

    But anyway, I've had depression - it's awful, but I don't care if someone says they feel depressed and aren't actually the clinical definition of it. I've called lots of mundane things extremely depressing.

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