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Internet Card Sharing is Illegal but...

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  • #52
    RogerThis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭RogerThis


    JHMEG wrote: »
    Including anyone that watches FTA or FTV British TV then, as we are not UK licence payers?

    Seems like anyone with FreeSat box in Ireland is a parasite.

    Or the people in the east coast getting DTT from Wales, are they parasites too?

    Or the people that receive the relay of the English stations over analogue all over Ireland?

    We are a real parasitic nation!


  • #53
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    RogerThis wrote: »
    Seems like anyone with FreeSat box in Ireland is a parasite.

    Or the people in the east coast getting DTT from Wales, are they parasites too?

    Or the people that receive the relay of the English stations over analogue all over Ireland?

    We are a real parasitic nation!

    EU law says watching FTA signals is perfectly legal.


  • #54
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,261 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Internally sharing a viewing card is a heinous offence,one for which SKY will hunt you down.
    As a matter of fact I'm sure they will be sending Reuven Hazak (former deputy head of Israel's Shin Bet ) and former would-be terrorist, Yossi Tsuria, who became chief technical officer of NDS in Israel over to your house to discuss it with you.:D


  • #55
    RogerThis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭RogerThis


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    EU law says watching FTA signals is perfectly legal.

    Not the point, we don't pay a British TV licence so we don't pay for the service. Therefore we are parasites.


  • #56
    RogerThis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭RogerThis


    watty wrote: »

    The FTV scheme in UK is over.     Fiver, FiveUS and Sky3 are not traditional FTV channels it's up to sky which channels it enables for a once off payment on a viewing card. Sky is a PayTV operator. It's a PayTV card as you can use it for a UK subscription.

    People over in digital spy seem to disagree.
    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1307212

    The FTV scheme in the UK is alive and well.
    The FreeSat from Sky is a FTV card.
    The FreeSat from Sky can't be upgraded to a PayTV card, they need to sent you out a new one.
    The FreeSat from Sky card is NOT a PayTV card.


  • #57
    azzeretti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭azzeretti


    watty wrote: »
    You'll find that discussing how to make a bomb is illegal too.

    .

    You'll find you might need to put things in context. Discussing how to make a bomb is certainly not illegal if there is no criminal intent. An example would be a discussion on how one might perform a controlled building demolition. The tools used to perform such task are just as dangerous but you can't really think a discussion about it is illegal.

    Granted card sharing is illegal but I can't see that any discussion that isn't liable or seen to entice a crime could be illegal. There certainly are limits to freedom of speech but if you look closer you will see the law has them covered; racist comments, bullyish remarks, enticing violance etc are all explicitly referenced, and rightly so.

    Everything with in context Watty.......


  • #58
    RogerThis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭RogerThis


    Would many consider it fair use, to card share within one's home with a PayTV card?

    Satellite providers are only covering there costs by the monthly multi room subscriptions. They sell the boxes for less that €200, but the boxes are a lot more expensive. They probably don't make any money on them until you have them over a year.

    So if you buy your own equipment, is it fair use to LAN card share within the confines of your home?

    Terms and conditions are all well and good, but if you stuck by them the world would be a boring place.


  • #59
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    RogerThis wrote: »
    Would many consider it fair use, to card share within one's home with a PayTV card?

    I'd be very surprised if anyone on here actually thought it would be considered theft if they we're to share within their own homes when the main sub is being payed for legitimately.....


  • #60
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    RogerThis wrote: »
    Not the point, we don't pay a British TV licence so we don't pay for the service. Therefore we are parasites.

    It is very much the point. It is hardly my fault that their signals are available to me. You could say that they are intruders.


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  • #61
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    RogerThis wrote: »
    Not the point, we don't pay a British TV licence so we don't pay for the service. Therefore we are parasites.

    Get a grip will ya - This is TV not bank-robbery for heavens sake


  • #62
    RogerThis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭RogerThis


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    It is very much the point. It is hardly my fault that their signals are available to me. You could say that they are intruders.
    Manc-Red wrote: »
    Get a grip will ya - This is TV not bank-robbery for heavens sake

    I'm only going by the gospel according to watty.
    watty wrote: »
    No, people that take things that are paid for by everyone else is a parasite.


  • #63
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    RogerThis wrote: »
    I'm only going by the gospel according to watty.

    So FTA channels that are viewable here in Ireland that originate in a foreign land is deemed to be thieving if we watch them here....????

    Go way outa that.


  • #64
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    RogerThis wrote: »
    I'm only going by the gospel according to watty.

    You are being petty in an attempt to justify your arguement.


  • #65
    RogerThis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭RogerThis


    Manc-Red wrote: »
    So FTA channels that are viewable here in Ireland that originate in a foreign land is deemed to be thieving if we watch them here....????

    Go way outa that.
    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    You are being petty in an attempt to justify your arguement.

    I'm only paraphrasing what watty said. I don't believe that people that take things that are paid for by everyone else is a parasite. That is watty's view not mine. And I don't agree with it.


  • #66
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    RogerThis wrote: »
    I'm only paraphrasing what watty said. I don't believe that people that take things that are paid for by everyone else is a parasite. That is watty's view not mine. And I don't agree with it.

    Fair enough Rog - took you up wrong.


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  • #67
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    RogerThis wrote: »
    I'm only paraphrasing what watty said. I don't believe that people that take things that are paid for by everyone else is a parasite. That is watty's view not mine. And I don't agree with it.

    I might consider taking action if you continue to mis-represent me.

    It's totally despicable the twisting of my statements that you are continually making.


  • #68
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    JHMEG wrote: »
    Watty, you're making sweeping statements about the law without any proof, and then saying seek legal advice.

    You can talk about pretty much anything in this country, as far as I am concerned. No topic of conversation is illegal. This isn't Iran.


    Boards rules have nothing to do with the law!

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1990/en/act/pub/0024/sec0009.html#zza24y1990s9

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=295325

    previous announcement here
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/announcement.php?f=622


    Believe what you like.


  • #69
    marclt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭marclt


    I'm not sure there is any more to discuss on this topic.

    THREAD CLOSED!


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