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Katie Hopkins' Award

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  • #52
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Hego Damask wrote: »
    Post some of her racist and bigotted tweets, I'll wait, the definition of racism nowadays is so broad it could be anything ...

    This post would be seen as an example of racism (in some people’s opinion).


  • #53
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    But she's a hateful and ridiculous person...

    I don't do Twitter, so rarely see whatever she posts. But no harm getting her off the thing. She's not Gemma Doherty kinds of cnut, but she's definitely a cnut.

    You rarely see what she posts but think it is right that she was banned. You do realise your post is hate speech. Should you be banned from all social media?


  • #54
    Better Than Christ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Better Than Christ


    Hego Damask wrote: »
    Post some of her racist and bigotted tweets, I'll wait, the definition of racism nowadays is so broad it could be anything ...

    Her tweets are all gone. Here are a few examples though, which all the racists on here will no doubt deny were made with racist intent...

    "Dear black people. If your lives matter why do you stab and shoot each other so much"

    "Racial profiling is a good thing, call me racist. I don't care... it has lost all meaning"

    "Today is #whiteoutwednesday I will shortly be posting a picture of my arse, thank you"


  • #55
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Hego Damask wrote: »
    Yes !!!
    Another person with the wrong opinions silenced!!!

    Nobody is stopping her talk the ****e she talks, they're not allowing her to use their platform to do so, as they're perfectly entitled to.

    Nothing stopping you subscribing to her newsletters or website


  • #56
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,282 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    jackboy wrote: »
    You rarely see what she posts but think it is right that she was banned. You do realise your post is hate speech. Should you be banned from all social media?

    I don't need to follow her, I've seen enough of her tripe to know she's a cnut. And calling someone a cnut is not hate speech...

    "Hate speech is defined by Cambridge Dictionary as "public speech that expresses hate or encourages violence towards a person or group based on something such as race, religion, sex, or sexual orientation"."


  • #57
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    I don't need to follow her, I've seen enough of her tripe to know she's a cnut. And calling someone a cnut is not hate speech...

    "Hate speech is defined by Cambridge Dictionary as "public speech that expresses hate or encourages violence towards a person or group based on something such as race, religion, sex, or sexual orientation"."

    So clearly by that definition what you said is hate speech.


  • #58
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,282 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    jackboy wrote: »
    So clearly by that definition what you said is hate speech.

    Really now? Did I attack her sexual orientation, religion, race or sex? Again, calling someone a cnut, or a bollix, or any other general term like that is not hate speech. If I said "that white catholic lesbian cnut", yes, hate speech. But I didn't.


  • #59
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    Really now? Did I attack her sexual orientation, religion, race or sex? Again, calling someone a cnut, or a bollix, or any other general term like that is not hate speech. If I said "that white catholic lesbian cnut", yes, hate speech. But I didn't.

    You did attack her sex using that word. There is no doubt what you said is hate speech. You really need to be on really high ground before calling for people to be banned.


  • #60
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,282 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    jackboy wrote: »
    You did attack her sex using that word. There is no doubt what you said is hate speech. You really need to be on really high ground before calling for people to be banned.

    I was going to do a big reply showing how you're completely wrong, but I just couldn't be arsed. Off with you if you think calling someone a cnut is hate speech, you're wrong, but I don't think any amount of proof as to how wrong you are will change your mind.

    Enjoy life.


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  • #61
    jaxxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    jackboy wrote: »
    You did attack her sex using that word. There is no doubt what you said is hate speech. You really need to be on really high ground before calling for people to be banned.


    Calling somebody a c*nt is not f*cking hate speech, are you acually serious.. .. .. .. ..


  • #62
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    I was going to do a big reply showing how you're completely wrong, but I just couldn't be arsed. Off with you if you think calling someone a cnut is hate speech, you're wrong, but I don't think any amount of proof as to how wrong you are will change your mind.

    Enjoy life.

    You see how it works now.

    Your intentions are irrelevant.

    If someone perceives your words to be offensive or hate speech then you have to prove you are innocent.

    This is part of the culture that includes shutting down speech.


  • #63
    Better Than Christ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Better Than Christ


    jaxxx wrote: »
    Calling somebody a c*nt is not f*cking hate speech, are you acually serious.. .. .. .. ..

    He's not serious. It's a diversionary tactic. Ideally, he'd like to try and argue that Katie Hopkins has never tweeted anything racist or anything that constitutes hate speech, but he knows he'd be on a hiding to nothing, so he tried (really badly, as it happens) to move the focus away from her.


  • #64
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Better Than Christ wrote: »
    He's not serious. It's a diversionary tactic. Ideally, he'd like to try and argue that Katie Hopkins has never tweeted anything racist or anything that constitutes hate speech, but he knows he'd be on a hiding to nothing, so he tried (really badly, as it happens) to move the focus away from her.

    Clearly she has said some things that constitute hate speech. I just don’t agree with the concept of hate speech as it is too loose and dependent on interpretation. I responded to a poster who used extreme language that could easy be interpreted as hate speech, even against his dictionary definition to dispute that.

    Remember, people are getting into serious trouble for things they said decades ago. So if you believe in the current concept of hate speech your speech must conform to all future definitions and versions. All part and parcel of the banning culture.


  • #65
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,306 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Good riddance to her.
    It might aide her disappearance into obscurity, a la Milo whatshisface


  • #66
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,550 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    jackboy wrote: »
    You see how it works now.

    Your intentions are irrelevant.

    If someone perceives your words to be offensive or hate speech then you have to prove you are innocent.

    This is part of the culture that includes shutting down speech.

    Yeah well, she's gone off twitter now. You can cry about it all you want but it won't bring her back. Save all the "PC gone mad" "the world's is against me and anyone who tells it like it is", for an echo chmaber who cares. Lol.


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  • #67
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Mr E wrote: »
    Katie was flown over to Prague on Monday to receive an award.

    Turns out the award was fake, funded by a Youtube 'prankster' called Josh Pieters.
    They paid for her flight and filled the room full of actors.

    The award was for the Campaign to Unify the Nation Trophy. :p

    Watch the video....
    Couldn't happen to a nicer lady. :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRIdtMlqwNA


    Her twitter account was suspended ths week for hate speech too. Not a good week for her.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51319951

    5 months old but jesus she is some hateful cnut. What did the poor auld epileptics do to anyone?


  • #68
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Permabanned from Twitter https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53111295


    tweet-katie-hopkins-kthopkins-14h-this-is-how-it-feels-30591698.png


  • #69
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Hego Damask wrote: »
    Yes !!!
    Another person with the wrong opinions silenced!!!

    She hasnt been silenced.Shes free to run her own website and say what she wants.

    Imacunt.co.uk is probably available.


  • #70
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    I recently watched this clip of Hopkins and Peaches Geldof from not long before Geldof died. I have to admit, I was expecting Geldof to be annoying as that was my previous experience of her but she handles Hopkins so well here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY3v2KQkGmE


  • #71
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,282 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    jackboy wrote: »
    Remember, people are getting into serious trouble for things they said decades ago. So if you believe in the current concept of hate speech your speech must conform to all future definitions and versions. All part and parcel of the banning culture.

    And should I ever make it famous (I'm trying), and this is brought up as some flaccid attempt to make me look bad, I will stand over it and call her a cnut in 10 years time too.


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  • #72
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    5 months old but jesus she is some hateful cnut. What did the poor auld epileptics do to anyone?


    Strange thing is she IS epileptic. Seriously so.

    She had to have an operation.

    Also she went bankrupt a while ago and had to get help from the govt and the bank ...basically they wrote off a lot of her debt and gave her money.

    She is now complaining that kids don't miss out on school lunches when not at school She said women should be fiscally responsible! HA!


  • #73
    Fluorescence
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Strange thing is she IS epileptic. Seriously so.

    She had to have an operation.

    Also she went bankrupt a while ago and had to get help from the govt and the bank ...basically they wrote off a lot of her debt and gave her money.

    She is now complaining that kids don't miss out on school lunches when not at school She said women should be fiscally responsible! HA!

    Didn't she also condemn people naming their children after places when her own daughter is named India? I'm sensing a lot of self hatred...


  • #74
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    She hasnt been silenced.Shes free to run her own website and say what she wants.

    Imacunt.co.uk is probably available.

    It is and if you have $3795 available then that domain could be yours.


  • #75
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Strange thing is she IS epileptic. Seriously so.

    She had to have an operation.

    Also she went bankrupt a while ago and had to get help from the govt and the bank ...basically they wrote off a lot of her debt and gave her money.

    She is now complaining that kids don't miss out on school lunches when not at school She said women should be fiscally responsible! HA!

    She went bankrupt because she libeled jack Monroe and decided to fight it in court rather than apologise. She lost and and to pay the costs for both sides plus a substantial payout.


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