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Fertility Shock

professore · 2019-03-11 23:14:03

Watching this on RTE it talks about the declining birth rate and then talks about the high cost of childcare as a problem and goes on about how the Nordic countries do it so much better. Its true they do it better BUT their birth rates are among the lowest in the world - predictably not mentioned in the documentary of…

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#102 13-03-2019 12:14am

Auntie Semite

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jim-mcdee wrote: »

An extremely narrow minded comment. Avoidance of the above, must be the worst reasons in the world to decide to have children. Also, having kids are in no way guaranteed to avoid that. My wife worked in the home care industry. More than a few elderly clients that were filled with the above after being practically abandoned by their children, who are happy to pay for their care, but never visit.

What I meant was (in the context of the comment about enjoying life too much to have kids) that lots of people in their 30's put off having kids for a career, or do not have kids for environmental reasons, having too much fun or simply leave it too late.
Many people assume they're mindset will still be the same at 50 than it was at 30 , this is often not the case and unfortunately some will ultimately regret not having kids. I'm talking middle age here not old age.

I agree that having kids for the reason of having someone to look after you in your dotage is a bad idea.

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#103 13-03-2019 5:08am

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topper75 wrote: »

Right so we don't want eugenics.
But is there an any acceptable alternative to letting it all play out laissez faire and see more of this:
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/addicted-baby-born-every-three-days-910068.html

the numbers in this story are not high, and trend seems to be decreasing - would you know what is contributing to this trend ?

but I'd think in future cryonics may be of use for all sorts of scenarios: humans have a problem they don't know how to fix yet, then put affected individuals to sleep until science has found a way.

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#104 13-03-2019 5:56am

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Of course the Catholic Church greatly influenced reproduction rates by their influenece on the availability of contraception.

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#105 13-03-2019 1:11pm

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paleoperson wrote: »

No I am not attacking the poster pal. I would be attacking the poster if I said something like your job is only such and such or you are a drug user so your point is invalid. I am saying here I have no clue what you're saying and that I think it's nonsensical and cannot fathom how you come to it, that is attacking the post.

It's not though. "I don't know what you're smoking" is attacking the person making the post, not the post.

Your non-comprehension of a well known English phrase and one of the most well-known quotes from the book of Genesis is entirely your issue.

I have no idea what you mean by "back to attacking the poster" either because I don't recall anything like attacking a poster in this thread.

:rolleyes: It's only a page or two ago, post 78, here let me refresh your memory.

paleoperson wrote:

Hotblack Desiato shut the **** up. You're not doing any favours for anti-overpopulation by claiming it's all due to christian religion, it has nothing to do with christian religion, you're just acting like a clown.

Because people like you are always spewing such vile hatred and outright lies about good people, many of whom are now dead.

It's bull****, the whole thing you brought up is bull****. Nothing about catholicism belongs as part of this conversation unless if you're talking about an indirect effect on Africa. Both nuns and priests are strictly forbidden from reproducing. So enough with your bull****.

People like me? Uh-oh, attacking poster again.
Vile hatred and outright lies? What have I posted which is hatred or lies?
I have not attacked any person religious or otherwise.
I have posted FACTUAL accounts of Roman Catholic Church influence on regional and global population policy.
"Bull****" is not a synonym for facts which you are not willing to face up to.
If you are not willing to engage respectfully in a discussion based on fact then we are done here.

Scrap the cap!

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#106 13-03-2019 2:45pm

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Auntie Semite wrote: »

What I meant was (in the context of the comment about enjoying life too much to have kids) that lots of people in their 30's put off having kids for a career, or do not have kids for environmental reasons, having too much fun or simply leave it too late.
Many people assume they're mindset will still be the same at 50 than it was at 30 , this is often not the case and unfortunately some will ultimately regret not having kids. I'm talking middle age here not old age.

I agree that having kids for the reason of having someone to look after you in your dotage is a bad idea.

Got ya. That's reasonable to assume. Circumstance dictates a lot and many sleepwalk into a situation where they discover the clock was against them and now its too late.

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#107 13-03-2019 11:36pm

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The people you would want to have kids aren’t or aren’t having many and the Margaret cash of the worlds are pumping them out , massive financial burdens on the state! Laughable this banana republic!

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#108 17-03-2019 10:50pm

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In Ireland some people complain about immigration. I we paid ourselves less, they would be slower to come. This video shows the consequences of our high pay on low income countries like Bulgaria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Ufhi_42h0
Shame on us.

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#109 19-03-2019 12:14am

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Well of course the proles earning less would suit your rent-seeker class right down to the ground - up to a point, anyway.

Just be careful you don't allow them to earn so little they can't afford to pay their betters their rent, this occurred in the 19th century and didn't work out too well for your lot.

Scrap the cap!

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