International women's day Mass protest

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

A call for mass walkout protest for international women's day, to end:

An end to gender-based violence and harassment;

Closure of the gender pay gap;

An end to precarious conditions in work and housing;

Solidarity with the struggle for abortion rights in the North.


https://www.thejournal.ie/international-womens-day-walkout-4487752-Feb2019/


The last one is probably the only realistic one. Will you be walking out for international women's day?

What pay gap? The wamyn are going to protest against a myth. And if this protest is going to be anything like the US Womens March, they're going to need a ragbag of sadistic murders and anti-Semites to serve as leaders (and make it authentic).

Silentcorner wrote: »

Jesus, you really have drank the cool aid...do you really believe that men are not physically, emotionally abused in large numbers, men are by some distance least likely to report abuse, (approx 5% of abused men will report abuse it is believed)for obvious reasons.

https://www.thejournal.ie/mens-domestic-abuse-ireland-3734811-Dec2017/

Hold on a second. We were discussing the need for domestic violence shelters for men. That has nothing to do with whether or not I believe that men are physically and emotionally abused in large numbers. It has to do with whether or not there is a demand for domestic violence shelters for men. I’ve already stated that I don’t believe domestic violence shelters are ideal places for women and children, so without drinking any koolaid, why would I ever want to advocate that funding should go towards providing inadequate and inappropriate services for men? That wouldn’t make any bloody sense.

Access to third level education is gained through our points system, girls have been outperforming boys for decades allowing them greater options when it comes to education, except in STEM of course which is now subject to all kinds of equality programs....imagine if it was the other way round!

Girls have not been outperforming boys for decades, and access to third level education is not solely governed by the points system either. There are numerous avenues into third level education now that weren’t there for previous generations whose families simply could not afford a third level education for their children. STEM isn’t some great be all and end all of education, and the numbers of women enrolling in STEM courses still doesn’t come close to even threatening the numbers of male applicants applying for STEM courses. According to CSO figures from 2016, teaching was by far and away the most popular choice for students entering third level education. The teaching profession has been screaming out for more men to enter the profession since the early 2000’s. They won’t. Why? It has very little to do with being accused of any untoward behaviour around children, and a lot more to do with the fact that employment opportunities and conditions are just grim. I don’t have to imagine if it was the other way round. Even when it is the other way round - men simply don’t want to enter female dominated professions. They aren’t prevented from entering female dominated professions, but men simply don’t want to work under those conditions. I can’t say I blame them. I wouldn’t either.

The state offers women healthcare that is not extended to men, certain cancer treatments for example, men die younger.

That simply comes down to cost effectiveness. There wouldn’t be much of a point in offering women treatment for prostate cancer, would there? In the same way, there isn’t much point in offering boys the HPV vaccine, a point made by Dr. Diane Solomon, head of the National Cancer Institute in the US, who so astutely observes -


“Men don’t have a cervix”

Yet in this country the same Minister Harris whom you criticised earlier announced last August -

Boys to get HPV vaccine in 2019

A woman in this country will receive a lower sentence than a man for a comparable crime (I am aware that men commit much more crimes), if a woman murders her husband she will not receive the same sentence as a man who murders his wife, she is more likely to avoid a conviction by some distance either, the same applies for all types of crimes that people commit.

Again, sentencing is not based solely upon a person’s sex, but a number of factors which are taken into consideration in each individual case. It doesn’t even come down to whether or not men commit more crimes or the types of crimes committed by either sex.

Every time there’s a thread on here where a man has been convicted of rape or sexual assault, there are a number of men pile in with stories of how they claim to have had experiences which didn’t cause them any upset, so by that same token which is their standards for themselves - a woman shouldn’t be upset if she is sexually assaulted by a man. Those men are just as entitled to make a complaint as women are, but they don’t, and then they complain when women complain as though women shouldn’t complain either?

Why should anyone else live by that standard? You say that men don’t report domestic violence and sexual assault, but women who do report domestic violence and sexual assault are still at fault, somehow? Again, how does that make any sense?

Take a look at the kangaroo courts US Universities that have done huge damage to many young men. https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2015/07/06/campus-rape-lie/[/url]

And you accuse me of drinking the koolaid? A mere handful of cases in US universities where young men’s lives are ruined, is supposed to hold a candle to the number of women whose lives are ruined by sexual assault committed upon them by men in US Universities? They’re a ridiculous concept of course, but if you’re going to complain about them, you have to acknowledge the reason they came into existence in the first place.

Just because women are not succeeding in getting elected in the same numbers as men does not mean there is something inherently wrong with the system or the electorate...it is very very difficult to get elected and it should be....it is not perfect, but reform the entire system as opposed to shoe horning individuals based on a collective identity.

Political Quotas are undemocratic, full stop, we wouldn't tolerate a quota of catholics, or muslims or any other collective, nor should we...the people we elect represent all of us, man or woman...until the lobby groups get their teeth into them that is!

Elections are entirely based upon shoehorning individuals into positions of power based upon a collective identity. We don’t live in a direct democracy, we live in a representative democracy, and that’s why quotas are being introduced. They are the very core principle of a representative democracy - representation! Currently in Irish politics there is inarguably a lack of representation of women, and quotas are a means to redress that imbalance where there are a majority of men who represent both men and women. Of course it’s understandable that you’re unlikely to notice this disparity if you’re a man, but equally understandable is the fact that if you’re a woman, it’s pretty hard to miss :pac:

We need to rid ourselves of our belief that it is only one gender that is problematic, it is doing more harm than good.

But you’re continually perpetuating it by suggesting that women have more influence and power than they deserve? You have yet to quantify just how much power you imagine women do “deserve” given that they make up half the population of this country? If anyone were to say “men have more power and influence than they deserve”, you’d lose your shìt, so why do you think then that it’s ok to say something like that about women, and then say that we need to rid ourselves of the belief that only one gender is problematic? You acknowledge that it does more harm than good, yet your own ideas are no different than the people you’re criticising!

I think they should have been incredibly embarrassed by the home made signs they put on the desk. Could they not figure out a printer and/or printing services?

Deleted User wrote: »

I've posted this before, but still relevant:


Here’s a scenario:
Imagine a company of 200 people. 50 male scientists and 50 female scientists, each earing €100k. The rest of the staff is made up of ancillary work like cleaners, security guards, receptionists, typists etc. By some quirk, every one of those people is paid exactly the same, say €30k, regardless of job, religion or sex.

This is the very definition of an equal pay workforce. All men and women are paid the same as their colleagues doing the same job, whether they are scientists or cleaners.

If the ancillary staff are made up of 20 men and 80 women though, this skews the reading of the statistics. All of a sudden, the men in that equal pay company earn an average of €80k per year while the women only take home an average that is less than €57k.

40% Paygap, outta nowhere.

The irony is that to correct this imbalance, the correct thing to do would be to fire 30 women and hire the same number of men in their place.

How’s that for equality?

Away out here with your sense and your maths.

Rabble rabble, patriarchy, oppression........money please.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

No you’re right, to be fair, but the point I was making is that these decisions with regard to treatments offered aren’t based upon sex, but rather they are based upon cost effectiveness.

Ah so it is cheaper to provide women with healthcare, so why bother offering men any...good stuff.

Even if you don't agree with the service, it must be cheaper to provide domestic abuse shelters to women also....men would probably insist on cigars and snooker tables and the likes!!

It must be waaay cheaper to jail men than women!

What rights do you think women aren't getting as a consequence of not electing a lot of women?

Because the only right I have, as a man, that a women doesn't is that I won't get prosecuted for walking around town topless!

Sounds like a complete circle jerk for feminazis.

Any person with half a brain won't buy into this BS.

It's a side effect of living in the west (first world), people have it too easy and dream up **** to be offended by. I wish these nuts jobs would actually invest their time into worthy causes.

There will always be sexist people, both men and women.

These feminazis would have you believe that women all over Ireland are being oppressed, that's bs, it's all about personality, there are woman I know that would chew up any man and spit him out. Work or home, there will always be someone with a dominating personality, whether that's man or female.