Should applicants with fake passports be given Irish residency anyway?

10000maniacs · 21-10-2018 4:32pm #1

There is a big campaign currently around a specific deportation case here ( I am trying to keep ethnicity out of this discussion) and the supporters are now playing the emotional humanitarian card as all other options are used up. But if fake passports are allowed, will Ireland set a dangerous precedent and become the go-to country if you have fake papers?
Also I could only find one reference to the fake passport and that was in the UK Times. Weird.

Fr_Dougal · 21-10-2018 4:37pm

Fake passports: deportation
Failed asylum application: deportation
Break the law and given a custodial sentence whilst here on a visa: deportation

The Australians have the right idea.

dudara · 21-10-2018 4:40pm

From what I heard on the radio today, it may have been a genuine passport, but obtained by providing incorrect documentation. Can anyone shed any light?

Birneybau · 21-10-2018 9:06pm

dudara wrote: »

From what I heard on the radio today, it may have been a genuine passport, but obtained by providing incorrect documentation. Can anyone shed any light?

Passport obtained by fraudulent means is better why?

enricoh · 21-10-2018 9:12pm

There's 3000-5000 minors apparently due to be deported, plus their parent(s).
We can't afford it, simple, despite whatever local TD looking for a few votes says

salmocab · 21-10-2018 9:13pm

Birneybau wrote: »

Passport obtained by fraudulent means is better why?

He didn’t say it was

Gatling · 21-10-2018 9:14pm

Why can't we just say your asylum is denied ,and immediately be taken into custody till a flight is organised and be done with it,

Seems people want it everyway and anyway .

Illegally here shure they feel Irish let them stay committed serious crimes shure let them stay it's the Irish in us ,
Sent them home people call for them to be reimported.

riffmongous · 21-10-2018 9:14pm

Not familiar with the case in question but if asylum claim is successful it should be ignored, otherwise you end up with a very ridiculous situation, and you are making the dictatorship countries job easier

Birneybau · 21-10-2018 9:16pm

riffmongous wrote: »

Not familiar with the case in question but if asylum claim is successful it should be ignored, otherwise you end up with a very ridiculous situation, and you are making the dictatorship countries job easier

What?

Birneybau · 21-10-2018 9:16pm

salmocab wrote: »

Birneybau wrote: »

Passport obtained by fraudulent means is better why?

He didn’t say it was

F-, inability to read between the lines

21-10-2018 9:16pm

Addressing the issue directly, not on your nelly. Next question.

salmocab · 21-10-2018 9:19pm

Birneybau wrote: »

F-, inability to read between the lines

Would you stop the poster asked a question, your not reading between the lines your seeing something that’s not there.

_Kaiser_ · 21-10-2018 9:20pm

Arrive, apply and if denied, be granted ONE appeal to a higher court... this should all take less than 3-6 months.

If again rejected or if you arrive illegally, overstay your visa, or otherwise abuse the existing immigration process, you should be sent back where you came from and added to a list cirulated to airports and ports to prevent illegal re-entry.

No exceptions. The rules and means for legitimate entry and naturalisation are there.. use them properly, or go elsewhere.

Birneybau · 21-10-2018 9:20pm

salmocab wrote: »

Birneybau wrote: »

F-, inability to read between the lines

Would you stop the poster asked a question, your not reading between the lines your seeing something that’s not there.

Why would I stop the poster? You may be right, I seem to have made a mistake.

JohnMc1 · 21-10-2018 11:45pm

No. It should be immediate deportation. This shouldn't even be debatable.

Should applicants with fake passports be given Irish residency anyway?

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