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John Delaney

  • 15-04-2019 6:05pm
    #1
    TomasMacR
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 262 ✭✭


    I have absolutely no idea why a soccer thread cant be commented upon without certain privileges and he can’t be discussed elsewhere.

    This man is an absolute embarrassment, the only reason he has not left his newly self appointed position is because he is working out how much we are going to give him as a severance package as another one of our finest fraudulent corrupt thieves.

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  • #2
    The Satanist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 693 ✭✭✭The Satanist


    Great man, sure didn't he fix the road?!


  • #3
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,451 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    TomasMacR wrote: »
    I have absolutely no idea why a soccer thread cant be commented upon without certain privileges and he can’t be discussed elsewhere.


    It's like a strict boarding school or something.


  • #4
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,597 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Indeed, and they are incredibly slow at granting access.

    On Delaney, can't really see what the fuss is about. The people agitating for him to go generally have very little to do with soccer in Ireland.


  • #5
    coastwatch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    By "stepping aside" ( but still with FAI) instead of resigning, he's hope to get a good 10 years with his snout in the UEFA trough


  • #6
    Trigger Happy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,104 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    The people of Kerry love him apparently.


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  • #7
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,451 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Indeed, and they are incredibly slow at granting access.

    On Delaney, can't really see what the fuss is about. The people agitating for him to go generally have very little to do with soccer in Ireland.


    They get like two million of public money out of about fifty million they spend.


  • #8
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    On Delaney, can't really see what the fuss is about. The people agitating for him to go generally have very little to do with soccer in Ireland.

    And there's the problem there. You don't have to play soccer to see what a joke the FAI are.

    Sure with this attitude is I hope you never complain about the government as you're not involved in politics yourself.


  • #9
    Ishmael
    Registered Users Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Ishmael


    TomasMacR wrote: »
    I have absolutely no idea why a soccer thread cant be commented upon without certain privileges and he can’t be discussed elsewhere.

    This man is an absolute embarrassment, the only reason he has not left his newly self appointed position is because he is working out how much we are going to give him as a severance package as another one of our finest fraudulent corrupt thieves.

    The soccer forum has restricted privileges as otherwise the forum would be a complete ****-show of re-reg trolls. Making people work to actually get the privilege to post in the forum, keeps most threads there reasonably civil.

    I've no love for John Delaney. I get the impression though that the other members of the board are getting away easy in this whole fiasco though. John may have been the CEO but the whole board is complicit in the incidents in question and the state of Irish soccer in general.


  • #10
    Your Face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


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  • #11
    WeIrishareEvil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13 ✭WeIrishareEvil


    The main issue i have in all this is why the head of the FAI is actually famous.

    Does the average English person know who the head of the FA is?


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  • #12
    TomasMacR
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 262 ✭✭TomasMacR


    Ishmael wrote: »
    The soccer forum has restricted privileges as otherwise the forum would be a complete ****-show of re-reg trolls. Making people work to actually get the privilege to post in the forum, keeps most threads there reasonably civil.

    Why? In comparison to politics, after hours (which has ironically enough zero tolerance) and more importantly the astronomy forum which I got site banned from because I posted about the alien I saw with the telescope I got for Xmas.


  • #13
    feargale
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Delaney declined to give any information to the Orieachtas Committee "on legal advice." While that does not always mean that illegality is being hidden, it often does and is often a guard against incriminating oneself or others. That fact in itself is enough to justify, indeed to make it imperative that the Garda Siochana take an interest in the matter in all such cases.


  • #14
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,597 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Hurrache wrote: »
    And there's the problem there. You don't have to play soccer to see what a joke the FAI are.

    Sure with this attitude is I hope you never complain about the government as you're not involved in politics yourself.

    I'm a citizen, therefore I have a stake in the running of and future of the country. I'm not involved in Irish soccer and the vast majority of people whinging (for years it has to be said) about Delaney haven't gotten up of their arses to get involved in running football either.

    If these people really cared about football then perhaps they should join a club and get involved, indeed of cribbing and throwing tennis balls
    kneemos wrote: »
    They get like two million of public money out of about fifty million they spend.
    There is no suggestion that any of the public money they receive has been misspent. The public money is used for specific programmes only

    The vast majority of FAI revenue comes from private sources. Why should anyone outside of the organisation feel they have the right to tell them how to conduct themselves? It's their business.


  • #15
    paw patrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Indeed, and they are incredibly slow at granting access.

    On Delaney, can't really see what the fuss is about. The people agitating for him to go generally have very little to do with soccer in Ireland.

    this may be true, but as a taxpayer we should have an opinion in how our cash is spent.
    While funding soccer is a noble cause ; seeing that money paying for Delaney's fancy dinners is pretty galling when we (as a country) have much better things to spend the money on.
    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    I'm a citizen, therefore I have a stake in the running of and future of the country. I'm not involved in Irish soccer and the vast majority of people whinging (for years it has to be said) about Delaney haven't gotten up of their arses to get involved in running football either.

    If these people really cared about football then perhaps they should join a club and get involved, indeed of cribbing and throwing tennis balls


    There is no suggestion that any of the public money they receive has been misspent. The public money is used for specific programmes only

    The vast majority of FAI revenue comes from private sources. Why should anyone outside of the organisation feel they have the right to tell them how to conduct themselves? It's their business.

    That's not true, the state funding for programmes allows the FAI to have money for other stuff.
    Without it there wouldn't be dinner in Gaucho's in London - which is a fabulous place btw... - tbh without it there wouldn't be a pot to piss in for the FAI


  • #16
    Annd9
    Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭Annd9


    MrMusician18 wrote: »

    On Delaney, can't really see what the fuss is about. The people agitating for him to go generally have very little to do with soccer in Ireland.

    Really ? So why have fans of clubs in the Loi been protesting against him for over Ten years ?


  • #17
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    TomasMacR wrote: »
    after hours (which has ironically enough zero tolerance)

    Assuming you're talking about rereg trolls, when it comes to AH let's just say you're way off base here. Pointing them out though, is something the mods definitely don't tolerate.

    As for Delaney, good riddance to the spanner but I doubt it will solve much as he surely had to be surrounded by crooks (one of which will take his place) to get away with such blatant corruption for so long.


  • #18
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,451 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    I'm a citizen, therefore I have a stake in the running of and future of the country. I'm not involved in Irish soccer and the vast majority of people whinging (for years it has to be said) about Delaney haven't gotten up of their arses to get involved in running football either.

    If these people really cared about football then perhaps they should join a club and get involved, indeed of cribbing and throwing tennis balls


    There is no suggestion that any of the public money they receive has been misspent. The public money is used for specific programmes only

    The vast majority of FAI revenue comes from private sources. Why should anyone outside of the organisation feel they have the right to tell them how to conduct themselves? It's their business.


    Kinda the point I was making.

    Fans however might feel aggrieved if they think things are being badly run. Though I'm not sure what their complaint is.


  • #19
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,597 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Annd9 wrote: »
    Really ? So why have fans of clubs in the Loi been protesting against him for over Ten years ?

    Fans, not members.


  • #20
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    John Delaney could run anything. John Delaney could run UEFA easily. He could run FIFA as far as I’m concerned.


  • #21
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    John Delaney could run anything. John Delaney could run UEFA easily. He could run FIFA as far as I’m concerned.

    True, he'd fit nicely into either of those particular dens of corruption.


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  • #22
    TCM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭TCM


    John D., a great CEO. He'll be badly missed.


  • #23
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    John Delaney could run anything. John Delaney could run UEFA easily. He could run FIFA as far as I’m concerned.

    You would think that :rolleyes:


  • #24
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The apple didn't fall far from the tree with Delaney.


  • #25
    TomasMacR
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 262 ✭✭TomasMacR


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    There is no suggestion that any of the public money they receive has been misspent. The public money is used for specific programmes only

    Eh? Have you the Sunday papers? There is every suggestion that public funds were misappropriated and this is why he is being forced to step down.


  • #26
    Annd9
    Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭Annd9


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Fans, not members.

    Not what you said at all , you claimed people who want him to go generally have little to do with soccer which is absolute nonsense .


  • #27
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,451 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    TomasMacR wrote: »
    Eh? Have you the Sunday papers? There is every suggestion that public funds were misappropriated and this is why he is being forced to step down.


    Haven't heard anything about misappropriation of funds.

    Some dodgy spending on a credit card,maybe.


  • #28
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    The apple didn't fall far from the tree with Delaney.

    Tell me about it, his father Joe was a monster!


  • #29
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,597 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Annd9 wrote: »
    Not what you said at all , you claimed people who want him to go generally have little to do with soccer which is absolute nonsense .

    Fans have little to do with the game, fans need to get off their holes become members and get involved in clubs if they want to see change. Clubs are dying because of the lack of volunteers.

    Going to the Aviva and chanting a few olés is not getting involved


  • #30
    TomasMacR
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 262 ✭✭TomasMacR


    kneemos wrote: »
    Haven't heard anything about misappropriation of funds.

    Some dodgy spending on a credit card,maybe.

    Also known as a misappropriation of funds


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  • #31
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Fans have little to do with the game, fans need to get off their holes become members and get involved in clubs if they want to see change. Clubs are dying because of the lack of volunteers.

    Going to the Aviva and chanting a few olés is not getting involved

    People can't afford to travel over to Liverpool and Manchester every week just to volunteer.


  • #32
    Rothko
    Registered Users Posts: 12,907 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    John Delaney could run anything. John Delaney could run UEFA easily. He could run FIFA as far as I’m concerned.

    1/10


  • #33
    Annd9
    Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭Annd9


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Fans have little to do with the game, fans need to get off their holes become members and get involved in clubs if they want to see change. Clubs are dying because of the lack of volunteers.

    Going to the Aviva and chanting a few olés is not getting involved

    I'm guessing you missed the part were I stated "Loi" as in League Of Ireland fans . Most clubs are run by volunteers some even fan owned and they have been protesting against not just Delaney but the whole FAI for years . Unfortunately nobody listened.

    I would agree with your last point , most people who attend national team games lapped it up for years , free cans , free trains , might even get to catch a tie .... Only when they got screwed themselves with away tickets did you hear any dissent among the support .


  • #34
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,451 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    TomasMacR wrote: »
    Also known as a misappropriation of funds


    Could have been spent dining clients. Also public funds account for four percent of their income.


  • #35
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,597 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Annd9 wrote: »
    I'm guessing you missed the part were I stated "Loi" as in League Of Ireland fans . Most clubs are run by volunteers some even fan owned and they have been protesting against not just Delaney but the whole FAI for years . Unfortunately nobody listened.

    I would agree with your last point , most people who attend national team games lapped it up for years , free cans , free trains , might even get to catch a tie .... Only when they got screwed themselves with away tickets did you hear any dissent among the support .

    If the clubs were so upset with the FAI they could always have left and set up their own football association. They didn't though.

    Apart from a few vocal objectors, there was no problem with how the FAI was being run from the clubs perspective. The members and the clubs are responsible for allowing the organisation to get into the state it's in.

    But that is their business, not the states.


  • #36
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,654 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Thank heavens for the soccer forum needing people to request access. Otherwise, it wouldn't be much better than here.

    Delaney is a clown and he's surrounded by clowns and I strongly suspect there are many skeletons in cupboards that have to yet to emerge.


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  • #37
    feargale
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    I'm a citizen, therefore I have a stake in the running of and future of the country. I'm not involved in Irish soccer and the vast majority of people whinging (for years it has to be said) about Delaney haven't gotten up of their arses to get involved in running football either

    If these people really cared about football then perhaps they should join a club and get involved, indeed of cribbing and throwing tennis balls

    They've gotten up off their arses to take a stand on something that is bigger than sport, transparency, accountability and ethics.
    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    lThere is no suggestion that any of the public money they receive has been misspent. The public money is used for specific programmes only
    The vast majority of FAI revenue comes from private sources. Why should anyone outside of the organisation feel they have the right to tell them how to conduct themselves? It's their business.

    You will be able to tell us that when the taxpayer's money has dried up, which hopefully happened yesterday. My oh my, what a tendentious argument: "we are spending the taxpayer's money honestly and the taxpayer can buzz off and mind his own business about all the other money we spend." And I suppose the women footballers who were treated so shabbily can buzz off too.
    What is needed is a Swim Ireland solution, a whole new organisation.

    P.S. Isn't it time to restart that old chestnut of a thread that we haven't seen for ages: "What does the GAA do with all its money?" :D. :D. :D


  • #38
    dd973
    Registered Users Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dd973


    Comes across as one of those tossers who was born under every favourable planet in the universe.


  • #39
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Why is anybody surprised by this John Delaney stuff? I have zero interest in soccer but almost three years ago in the Pat Hickey thread here I was able to say "Anyway, the surprising thing about the Pat Hickey affair is that John Delaney has not been toppled yet. 12 years at the very top of the FAI and all those commercial deals..."

    It's a human nature thing. Leaving aside the well established and longstanding poor performance of the FAI under Delaney, leaving somebody with so much power in any commercial organisation for so long is invariably a really bad thing. Most of us instinctively know this. Plenty of collaboration from the FAI's funders in keeping this guy's fiefdom going for so long.


  • #40
    corminators
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭corminators


    There's another 1000 people like this at the top of Irish society.
    Audits never find anything, strangely.


  • #41
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    corminators wrote: »
    There's another 1000 people like this at the top of Irish society.
    Audits never find anything, strangely.

    If it want that 1000 it would be another 1000. Its the nature of these things. Right wing, left wing, amateur professional. The gravy train is always too tempting


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  • #42
    Phil.x
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    He's one ugly mother!! Surprised he didnt get a facelift and neck tuck with all his money.


  • #43
    Phil.x
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    He's one ugly mother!! Surprised he didnt get a facelift and neck tuck with all his money.


  • #44
    Mrcaramelchoc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    Phil.x wrote: »
    He's one ugly mother!! Surprised he didnt get a facelift and neck tuck with all his money.

    Post your pic And we will compare them.
    Wtf have his looks got to do with anything.


  • #45
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,218 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I haven't been paying much attention to the whole Delaney saga as it's dragged on like brexit and was boring the arse off me but most of the criticism seems to centre on his salary. So what? When I see and hear knobs like Dunphy and Tony O'Donoghue being critical of him I assume he must be doing something right. They are about to force the one individual in this country who has clout and influence in world soccer out of the game, how clever is that?


  • #46
    storker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    The Irish women's team having to share tracksuits because the FAI wouldn't buy them their own. Meanwhile JD spends racks up eye-watering hotel bills.

    The amount the FAI is paying to cover JD's rent plus his credit card spending, are greater than total LOI prize money.

    The FAI becomes so strapped for cash that they need to go to JD for a loan.

    You don't need to be involved with football to see that this stinks to high heaven and is yet another example of low standards in high places.


  • #47
    storker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    corminators wrote: »
    There's another 1000 people like this at the top of Irish society.
    Audits never find anything, strangely.

    "Never commission an inquiry unless you know in advance what its findings are going to be."
    - Sir Humphrey Appleby

    I can't help but suspect that this is what's behind JD's stepping-aside...he anticipates being "vindicated" and returning to business as usual.

    "Trebles all round!", as Private Eye would say.


  • #48
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    This was not how this was meant to play out. Delaney should be president of the Olympic Council by now thanks to his friend Pat Hickey. Damn meddling Brazilians!


  • #49
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    The laughable thing is that he's not actually gone. He's trying to pull another stroke by saying that he'll just step aside until the investigation is complete.

    Will be be payed during this period? What does the investigation have to conclude for him to leave the FAI altogether etc.


  • #50
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,597 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    feargale wrote: »
    They've gotten up off their arses to take a stand on something that is bigger than sport, transparency, accountability and ethics.



    You will be able to tell us that when the taxpayer's money has dried up, which hopefully happened yesterday. My oh my, what a tendentious argument: "we are spending the taxpayer's money honestly and the taxpayer can buzz off and mind his own business about all the other money we spend." And I suppose the women footballers who were treated so shabbily can buzz off too.
    What is needed is a Swim Ireland solution, a whole new organisation.

    P.S. Isn't it time to restart that old chestnut of a thread that we haven't seen for ages: "What does the GAA do with all its money?" :D. :D. :D

    How many have actually gotten off their arses and done anything apart from whinging? How many fans are actually members of the clubs they support? How many take jobs volunteering and doing the hard work? Or are they there whinging and moaning at others saying "you must do better, but I'm not actually going to help".

    Yeah, as an outsider, it looks like the FAI is badly run and indeed it was awful that the women had to change tracksuits in the toilets because they wanted them back. Therese are not new revelations however, and the FAI members, for the most part, have been happy to let this poor management continue. And as a private organisation, they are well within their rights to run it in whatever way they see fit.

    The public only have oversight of the public money that the state invests in the FAI for specific programmes, and there is no evidence that this money has been misspent. The reason Sport Ireland need to know material changes in the FAIs financial position is so that the money it invests doesn't vanish in the event of an insolvency. While the public might care about how soccer is governed, the state has a very limited interest in it. If the FAI refuses to participate in state programmes in future it won't ever have to answer to oireachtas committees only to it's members. The fact that the FAI organise teams to play in green for Ireland doesn't mean they have to be more accountable than any other private organisation.

    And up to now, the board has had the support of it's members.

    So maybe the former CEO or board is not the problem, but the attitudes of the people that matter (and the majority up to now), the members of the FAI that have resisted change


  • #51
    DarTipp
    Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭DarTipp


    even with john the new board will have a lot of improvements to make and it won't be along I'd before they will be wanted out by some fans !


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