What was the fcuking big deal about the Sopranos?

I always liked it for the stark juxtaposition it displays between the mafioso culture and the everyday banality of human existence. It ends up being a deconstruction of a particular power fantasy, kind of like how Goodfellas is about that same fantasy collapsing around the characters.

You can extract from it a criticism on the expectations placed on men to be this Gary Cooper archetype but even the men who aspire to that model are often broken inside. The Mafia plot is just the narrative model used to explore that ****. It was a show about the idea of "toxic masculinity" before that phrase became so eye-rollingly over used and its lessons are broadly appliable to normal folk as well.

It's not flawless though and it never made much sense that Melfi didn't know what a sociopath was, and the forced drama with Chris and some others was clearly about dragging things past the point it needed to finish. I also much preferred Deadwood and wish that got it's fourth season instead of this movie thing

The sopranos ended way back on 2007, so unless somebody has just discovered it for the 1st time?
Or is this about a new 2019 remake?

The Sopranos is a great tv show that has a very high chance of being liked by almost anyone. The guy who put you in the direction of the sopranos was completely in the right to believe there was a high chance you'd like it.

It's not even like Game of Thrones or Sparticus where there's wanton violence, sex, rape and "that sort of carry on". The violence and deaths in the sopranos are pretty mild, they're like your typical death scene, very rarely anything gory or gratuitous. Even Breaking Bad was worse or about the same.

You suspect that people only like it because it's about gangs and the mafia? Well in your imagination everyone can be an idiot great, but don't confuse it with reality.

is_that_so wrote: »

Are you just looking for a show to ridicule? People don't like or "get" TV shows or films. It all depends on personal preferences.

No I'm ****ing not. I'm asking what shows he/she enjoyed because I'm curious. **** off.


The OP is obviously a troll. I'm trying to make the most of the thread. I'm trying to ask a simple question on what shows this person enjoys, if they don't like those shows surely I can ask what shows they do like? Do you have a problem with that?

Why would you come in and ask me that. Get a life and stop trolling.

is_that_so wrote: »

Post reported

Hahaha.

Why do you have a problem with me asking what shows a person liked? It's just a stupid question.

I clicked on the report button to report your post that was fishing for an argument out of nothing but I doubt it would have succeeded so I didn't.

smilerf wrote: »

don't see why I should so you can pick them apart. Everyone has their own tastes

I already stated I had no intention of that. It was the furthest thing from my mind.

Don't assume things about others in future please.

paw patrol wrote: »

I didn't know that.

pity cos deadwood was really good.

The first seasons of Carnivale and especially Deadwood are the greatest I've ever watched more so even than The Sopranos which Kind of indulged in the fact that it was a gangster show with the Goodfellas and Godfather references the writers tried to threw in every so often. It really matured in its second season and beyond though.

Actually Oz and Game of Thrones started off excellent but went downhill (GOT more so ) as the seasons went on but The Sopranos was always consistent right up to the end.

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dar_cool wrote: »

The episode with Tony and Paulie in the snowy forest is possibly my favourite bit of television ever. Bloody brilliant

The pine barrens! Eating ketchup sachets in the van! Tony said he was an interior decorator....but his place looked sh1t! It was one of the best episodes. Steve Buscemi directed it. It added to Chris and Paulies issues. In later episodes they often argued about the event and who was at fault.