How early is too early to go to bed?

Dakotabigone · 05-02-2019 12:10am

Cheminho wrote: »

I can function on a minimum of 6 hours but not consecutively. More than 8 can have a negative effect on me.

In what way?

monkeysnapper · 05-02-2019 12:21am

I'm a 12.30 ...and usually sleep as soon as head hits pillow.

I'm up at around 7.30 . I'm not tired during day and in evenings after kids are in bed at 8pm I'll go for a run .

Weekends I get up same time.

We've had this discussion at work in canteen a few times and people are shocked at the time I go to bed and go out running.

I dont think it's a big deal ....if I was falling asleep on couch every night I'd maybe reconsider time .

Dial Hard · 05-02-2019 12:23am

Snow Garden wrote:

I grew up in the 70s and 80s in a small town and I reckon most people got up at 8am. It's always stuck with me that 8am is the right time to get up at. It would give you 1 hour to wash, get dressed, eat breakfast, maybe watch some TV and go to school. I remember thinking that only dairy farmers got up earlier than 8am.

My school (primary and secondary) started class at 8.50 so you had to be there at 8.40 to get to your cloakroom, coats off, up to classroom, books out etc for ten to. Ten minute walk to the bus stop and then about 20 minutes on the bus so there was no way any of us were getting up at 8!

Likewise I've never had a job that started at 9 that I could get up at 8 for. And I'm not a leisurely morning person, I literally get up, quick shower, walk the dog if it's my turn and I'm gone.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 05-02-2019 12:32am

When I was working, 8 hours was my ideal sleep-time but 7 hours sleep was absolutely fine and sufficient too. Any less than that though wasn’t enough. I needed to leave my apartment at 7:35 and I showered in the evening so being asleep by midnight was sufficient. 11pm if I was being a good girl but that was rare.

s4uv3 · 05-02-2019 12:32am

Greengrant wrote: »

What's the problem, why doesn't the toddler sleep through the night?

lol
Some do, some don't. That's just the way they are. It's biologically normal for young children not to sleep well, despite what the baby sleep industry will have you believe
I have two babies who don't sleep, but I've learned to function on fcuk all sleep. My brain feels like marshmallow, I'm not 'with it' for large portions of the day, I have to write everything down, I'm just a dumbed down, slower, more twitchy version of my former self.
But sure someday it'll improve

AllForIt · 05-02-2019 12:37am

bluewolf wrote: »

I imagine circadian rhythm or whatever does impact what time you sleep being beneficial though

Dial Hard wrote: »

The individual's cirdcadian rhythm absolutely does. It's pretty much accepted at this stage that there are larks and owls. Owls in particular do quite badly when forced out of their natural rhythm, even when still getting their optimum amount of sleep.

I'm more fascinated by the number of people on this thread who only get up at 8am!

I think circadian rhythm isn't set in stone though. I think it's what you've become accustomed too. I worked in a job some years ago where I didn't have to start till 5pm and finished up at 2/3 am for almost a decade. Even since I've been a night owl where I wasn't before. Before I'd conk out by 12 am.

Amirani wrote: »

I've heard some medical people hypothesise that this may have been a contributory factor to her mental decline later in life.

I think this is just a casual theory without any solid evidence. More likely for me is that she lived in a highly trafficked area where it has certainly been shown that ppl who live near polluted highly trafficked roads have a higher incidence of dementia.

beertons · 05-02-2019 12:42am

I dunno if it was the nicotine withdrawal, but I was in bed at 7:45 areir. I was exhausted. But what a difference a good rest was, up at 7 this morning and felt brand new.

Graces7 · 05-02-2019 7:42am

Varies according to eg pain levels .

But for decades have woken fully in the small hours and love the peace then. Also all my extended family are eg in Canada so we talk on the phone then. And I walk early too in the first light.

Illness limits my active hours so I am very early settling.. does not matter as I have no one to take into account. Always fully asleep soon after 6 pm.. if not earlier;)

Being very old affects sleep patterns and makes life so much easier. Loving it!

Squeeonline · 05-02-2019 7:44am

The gf is in bed before 11pm most night sometimes around 10pm, but up at 6am. Left to my own devices I'd be in bed by 2am and up after 10am. Now we are living together I go roughly when she does.

d8491prj5boyvg · 05-02-2019 8:00am

AllForIt wrote: »

Margaret Thatcher slept 4 hours per night it was widely reported.

She had Alzheimer's for a good while before she died. I often wonder was this related

Greengrant · 05-02-2019 8:30am

I go to bed at about 10pm, sometimes 10:30pm and get up at 7am.

I read an interview in the FT recently where a sleep expert said that any less than 7 hours sleep consistently begins to damage your health and the function of your brain.

Mandown · 05-02-2019 10:36am

4-5 hours could be anytime of the day usually two 2-3hour naps
unless im dying from beer then i sleep 12 hours

05-02-2019 11:07am

Squeeonline wrote: »

The gf is in bed before 11pm most night sometimes around 10pm, but up at 6am. Left to my own devices I'd be in bed by 2am and up after 10am. Now we are living together I go roughly when she does.

I would wait up at least an hour and usually longer than my wife, it’s my chance to watch the tv shows I watch that she doesn’t etc, plus I wouldn’t sleep properly going to be at the earlier time.

DaeryssaOne · 05-02-2019 11:16am

In bed around 11pm, read for a while and asleep usually by 11.30, alarm goes off at 7.30 but I am and always will be a snoozer so let that go off every 5 minutes until about 7.50.

In my twenties I would have stayed up til 3 or 4 am on Friday and Saturday nights no matter what just because it was the weekend but now I actually love if I'm not out and I can go to bed at the same time on the weekend - feels like routine hasn't been interrupted and without an alarm the next morning I can really really sleep! God I love my bed so much

Sabre0001 · 05-02-2019 11:23am

In bed by 9...and home by 11!

magic_murph · 05-02-2019 12:30pm

Kelvinwhalley wrote: »

is cbd any good for sleep?

Yes- it helps get into the deep sleep state quicker which results in a more fulfilling sleep.

Sleepy · 05-02-2019 1:54pm

I'd rarely be in bed before 12:30, usually going to sleep some time between 1 and 2, up at 7:45. Do some occasional pub work that can leave me up until 4/5 on the weekend and would usually be out of bed by 11ish the next morning.

I'd be a much happier person if I could find a way to work between 11 and 7/8 instead of the 9 to 5/6 that didn't impact on my family life. I've always been a night owl and at this stage, can't ever see that changing.

GreeBo · 05-02-2019 1:57pm

Greengrant wrote: »

Get the toddler in a routine and it shouldn't be a problem.

She is in a routine.

Bed at 6:30 for her, rest of us at ~10pm.
She wakes at 1:30am and puts herself back asleep
Then wakes at 4am and does the same
Then wakes at 5:30 and is awake for the day.

Broken sleep is a killer.

BeerWolf · 05-02-2019 2:01pm

I would really imagine it'd depend on your working hours... obviously a person doing a night shift isn't going to be sleeping in the evening...

Generally speaking I would typically sleep for 6 hours with 2 hours after before work starts.

aido79 · 05-02-2019 2:02pm

Is anyone else jealous of the people that don't get up until 8 or after it?

jester77 · 05-02-2019 2:18pm

aido79 wrote: »

Is anyone else jealous of the people that don't get up until 8 or after it?

Just wondering why you would be? I have a lot of things done by 8, nice having them done and out of the way as early as possible.

Snow Garden · 05-02-2019 2:35pm

I get 8 hours most nights but I try to get 9 hours on Thursday night in order to set myself up well for the weekend.
At weekends I often get up earlier than 8am to go fishing or hiking.

sbsquarepants · 05-02-2019 2:45pm

I've been in bed at 8 for the past 4 or 5 days (I give the baby a bottle carry him to his cot and don't even go back downstairs, straight to bed where I sleep through till 6:30) I'd love to go to bed right now, and I know full well I'd sleep right the way through till the 6:30 alarm.

Poor me:mad:

swingking · 05-02-2019 2:48pm

LirW wrote: »

I have a toddler, what is this sleep you're talking about?!

I see your toddler and raise you newborn twins

aido79 · 05-02-2019 2:55pm

jester77 wrote: »

Just wondering why you would be? I have a lot of things done by 8, nice having them done and out of the way as early as possible.

I get up at 4:30 for work plus I have a toddler and a newborn...staying in bed til 8 even on days off isn't an option.

sbsquarepants · 05-02-2019 3:01pm

swingking wrote: »

I see your toddler and raise you newborn twins

:eek::eek:

granturismo · 05-02-2019 3:09pm

Maximus Defeated Motorboat wrote: »

She had Alzheimer's for a good while before she died. I often wonder was this related

Possibly, it seems we need sleep to break down protein clumps in the brain and this happens mostly during rem sleep.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/lack-sleep-may-be-linked-risk-factor-alzheimers-disease

Cee-Jay-Cee · 05-02-2019 3:14pm

My body/brain seems to have a sleep window, if I'm not in bed by 11:30 then I tend to lie awake for a few hours before falling asleep, but if I go to bed between 11-11:30 I'll generally fall asleep within 10-15 minutes max. I get up at 7am.

SortingYouOut · 05-02-2019 3:31pm

Matthew Walker pretty much says 8 hours, if you can.

It's also important to fall asleep often when not under the influence of alcohol/cannabis as although it seems like you're conking out, you're not accessing the full sleep cycle, which is vital for various organ repair and the brain, most importantly.

Anyone who thinks they are functioning with as little as 4 hours sleep, may just be so used to that limit that it's become their norm. You may find that you're a new person with the full amount or closer to it.

I'd recommend anyone read Matthew Walkers book as it is a massive eye opener. Sleep should be respected, if you want to carry your memories to the grave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12XG-joFRBY

DEFTLEFTHAND · 05-02-2019 5:29pm

They say that Type A personalities tend to have very poor sleep patterns.

Trump is known to sleep less than 4 hrs a night, likewise billionaire wrestling promoter Vince McMahon. Both these men are over 70.

Steve Jobs was said to go days at a time without sleeping.

They view sleep as a waste of time, all they can focus on is working all the time.

Rubberchikken · 05-02-2019 5:34pm

i work 4 6 pm to 6 am shifts.
on my first morning off i sleep from 8am to 10 am and make myself get up to get something from the day! that night im asleep by 8 and sleep to 11am. if im off that night too id go to sleep around 10. staying up to 10ish is a real treat:)
tiredness is a killer.

chakotha · 05-02-2019 5:39pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

...8 hours was my ideal sleep-time but 7 hours sleep was absolutely fine and sufficient too. Any less than that though wasn’t enough....

Pretty much the same here so usually 23:30 to 7:30. Sometimes I will go to bed much earlier and then I am awake at 4:30 or 5:00 and just snooze until get up time.

yourdeadwright · 05-02-2019 6:00pm

AllForIt wrote: »

I'm always perplexed by the way this question is framed.

The specific time you get up or go to bed is entirely irrelevant. The specific times are irrelevant. It's about how many hours you sleep and if your getting enough for yourself. I think it's universally accepted that the amount of hours sleep one needs is completely individual.

Margaret Thatcher slept 4 hours per night it was widely reported. Preceded by a whiskey or 2 which I always found quite fascinating. I can't imagine Thatcher drinking at all least of all whiskey. Anyway, I digress. I was just alluding to the fact that ppl's sleeping requirements are individual and in some cases vary wildly.

She also suffered from dementia later in life, because of lack of sleep through out her life,

Don't be fooled every one needs to sleep , read the Matthew Walker book its a great read ,

Mrnew · 05-02-2019 6:03pm

I got 10 hours of sleep last night feel great but most of the time I get 7

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 05-02-2019 6:59pm

chakotha wrote: »

Pretty much the same here so usually 23:30 to 7:30. Sometimes I will go to bed much earlier and then I am awake at 4:30 or 5:00 and just snooze until get up time.

Yeah, if I went to sleep too early, say 10pm or before, I *would* be wide awake at 5am except for the very odd time when I’d be truly exhausted. Even 10:30pm was a tad too early. So I’d be awake at stupid o’clock but would then seriously crash in the latter half of the day, then need to go to bed really early and the cycle would repeat itself. So no sleeping any earlier than 11pm.

TerrorFirmer · 05-02-2019 7:33pm

I usually hit the hay around 11 and read or watch something for a while, and up around 6.30 or 7. As long as I get over five hours sleep I'm fine, I would say on average I sleep around 6 or 6.5 hours a night, 7.5 or 8 the very odd time. Sleep does't come very easily to me which is very annoying, especially after nights out where I'd be in bed around 3am and awake again at 6.30.....and no hope of going back to sleep.

Samuel T. Cogley · 11-02-2019 8:50pm

Thanks all, reading (well listening) to the suggested book and thinking 10:30 isn't too bad considering I'm up and out by about 6:45.

andekwarhola · 11-02-2019 8:56pm

Weekdays I get up around 6, go to sleep around 12 or 1230. I definitely could do with an earlier sleep time but I find it quite hard to fall asleep before 12.

Saturdays, usually have a lie in until about 830 or 9 depending on when the kids matches are on.

11-02-2019 9:16pm

aido79 wrote: »

Is anyone else jealous of the people that don't get up until 8 or after it?

As someone who very rarely has to get up before 8 the thought of doing it regularly sounds like torture, I’m just a terrible morning person. Currently I get up around 8:30 am most mornings or a little later. I couldn’t stand a job where I’ve really strict hours and have to be in early, was many years in the last place and could prettty much come in when I wanted (within reason so usually started between 9:30 and 10am, moved job last year and I knew it would be flexible but I still said straight out to the boss the first week that I don’t do early starts or want to deal with traffic so don’t expect to see me before 9:30 am at the earliest unless there is a good reason like a meeting, visitor etc.

jester77 wrote: »

Just wondering why you would be? I have a lot of things done by 8, nice having them done and out of the way as early as possible.

Because getting up early is torture, the day is long and plenty of time for doing things not that I do anything in the morning but get up and out the door (even breakfast is eaten at work etc). I’m usually out the door within 15 mins of getting up.

GreeBo wrote: »

She is in a routine.

Bed at 6:30 for her, rest of us at ~10pm.
She wakes at 1:30am and puts herself back asleep
Then wakes at 4am and does the same
Then wakes at 5:30 and is awake for the day.

Broken sleep is a killer.

Put her to bed later? 6:30 looks very early, earlier than I see friends/family putting toddlers to bed.

Badly Drunk Boy · 11-02-2019 9:26pm

I recently got one of those fitness monitors, so one of the things it does is 'analyse' my sleep patterns (sleep times, and periods of light and deep sleep). I've always had dodgy sleep patterns so I thought...why not?

It's not looking great. Here are the overall comments for each of the last few nights (it goes into more detail):

Slept better than 12% of users
99% of people slept better than me
99% of people slept better than me
Slept better than 11% of users
Slept better than 53% of users
Slept better than 3% of users

upinsmoke · 11-02-2019 10:31pm

Get up at three in the morning. Leave for work at 7.45 and in work at half eight.

Home around 6, get the dinner. Watch two hours of TV go to bed around half nine.

Works for me!

Franz Von Peppercorn · 11-02-2019 10:33pm

upinsmoke wrote: »

Get up at three in the morning. Leave for work at 7.45 and in work at half eight.

Home around 6, get the dinner. Watch two hours of TV go to bed around half nine.

Works for me!

Go on, tell us why.

Dakotabigone · 11-02-2019 11:07pm

Go to bed an hour early on the riding nights.

How early is too early to go to bed?

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