I wanna get a dog... q's..

sporina · 11-10-2020 11:26pm #1

Ok - I would love a dog - but I live in the city in a v small house.. and i am a bit of a clean freak..
Also, there are only 2 of us in the house - there might not always be one of us home.. so need to factor that in too.. the dog would need to be ok on their own for a few hours at least.. (not sure how this goes down with doggies).. we don't have anyone to leave it with near by..

So a lot of factors have to be considered before I would get one.. it might not be realistic..

But lets look at some breeds - what would be a good breed - non smelling and does not loose hair/fur?
Something small and cute.. quiet - lovable..

I don't want a difficult breed/hybrid that will have lots of health issues and thus medical expenses..

Have met a few Maltese/Bichon dogs.. they are v cute.. so something along those lines?

Have never had a dog of my own before (we had a dog at home all my youth but we lived on a farm and he was Zero maintenance).. I do realise that this would be a different ball game - and I know it would be work.. but I would love to think it would be a possibility..

Also we own our house so no issue with landlords..

Would love to hear some sound constructive info/advice.. TIA

s1ippy · 11-10-2020 11:37pm

In the city, a shih-tzu would be a nice small variety. They shed if you don't brush them daily though, a westie might be better as they have coarser hair that doesn't fall out as much. They're more intelligent too.

Westies like to be walked more than the smaller varieties, although I'd recommend three outings a day regardless of size because dogs have a great spirit of adventure. It's better to aim for three walks and not feel guilty if you miss one some days than feel like they're not getting out enough.

If you are renting, I wouldn't recommend pet ownership. It's incredibly difficult to find somewhere that accepts small furry creatures. If you're still good to go, consider that your circumstances play a big part: it's like having a child, except it's probably easier to bring them most places and find someone to look after children!! It's a lifetime commitment (for them).

11-10-2020 11:39pm

sporina wrote: »

Ok - I would love a dog - but I live in the city in a v small house.. and i am a bit of a clean freak..

So - what would be a good breed - non smelling and does not loose hair/fur?
Something small and cute.. quiet - lovable..

I don't want a difficult breed/hybrid that will have lots of health issues and thus medical expenses..

Have met a few Maltese/Bichon dogs.. they are v cute.. so something along those lines?

Have never had a dog of my own before (we had a dog at home all my youth but we lived on a farm and he was Zero maintenance).. I do realise that this would be a different ball game - and I know it would be work.. but I would love to think it would be a possibility..

Would love to hear some sound constructive info/advice.. TIA

All dogs can get health issues, and unfortunately those designed to be cute are often the ones with the most issues. They are often the ones that are the most profitable for unscrupulous breeders.
You would want to make sure of your breeder being legitimate and see where they are based and the parents.
As for smell, apart from skin issues and poor grooming not aware of one type of dog smelling worse than another
As for being clean, some shed more than others, but you're going to have some hair on furniture and clothing which is part and parcel of ownership.
Also not sure if you're a renter or not, but if you are would suggest holding off, plenty of dogs handed in to pounds and rescues because their owners have to move and the new landlord won't allow pets.

monkeysnapper · 11-10-2020 11:52pm

I have westies.... I use the term westies because in my opinion they keep each other company when we are out during day working .... I have cameras and see them playing and sleeping on top of each other ... I personally dont think it's any harder having 2 small dogs than 1 .... easier if anything as I explained above

My one is 15 and other 2 and its heartbreaking knowing he wont be with us for much longer , that's a part hopfully you wont have to think about for a long time .....

We like our house spotless to and have a really good shaver to keep their coats short and basically clean ... as said above my westies are mad for their walks and will just sit and stare at you bang on walkies time!!!!

I know loads of people that have got dogs and gave them up because they never realised how much time they take up or worse I know loads that just leave them out back and never interact or walk them ...

They are totally like children and my children love them as much as we do. ..... if I had to pick a fault.... they dont bloody live long enough....

bobbyy gee · 11-10-2020 11:55pm

forget going on holidays if you have a dog

monkeysnapper · 12-10-2020 12:00am

bobbyy gee wrote: »

forget going on holidays if you have a dog

Nonsense

We went to florida start of year and we have a lovely lady we pay to look after them.... cost us 200 euro for 14 days and nights and I believe that's good value ..... you'll find these people if you take the time and pay them.

imfml · 12-10-2020 12:04am

No first hand experience of them, but greyhound/lurchers are low maintenance, a short walk each day and they'll rest around the house for the rest. Not sure about shedding but I mention them as lots available to rescue, so may be worth researching. Hope you find a good fit and enjoy your new pet.

beachhead · 12-10-2020 12:33am

sporina wrote: »

Ok - I would love a dog - but I live in the city in a v small house.. and i am a bit of a clean freak..

So - what would be a good breed - non smelling and does not loose hair/fur?
Something small and cute.. quiet - lovable..

I don't want a difficult breed/hybrid that will have lots of health issues and thus medical expenses..

Have met a few Maltese/Bichon dogs.. they are v cute.. so something along those lines?

Have never had a dog of my own before (we had a dog at home all my youth but we lived on a farm and he was Zero maintenance).. I do realise that this would be a different ball game - and I know it would be work.. but I would love to think it would be a possibility..

Would love to hear some sound constructive info/advice.. TIA

Do you want a living creature or a lifestyle choice? All animals-dogs smell as you should know.Sounds like mammy looked after the dog when you were young.If,you really genuinely want a dog remember they are 24/7 in any situation.They require company and exercise.Ask a properly registered kennels and rehome a dog.

Xtrail14 · 12-10-2020 12:40am

You will need to clean up it’s poo in public areas.

anewme · 12-10-2020 12:58am

Op, unfortunately there is no perfect dog that will fit within your very strict parameters, cute, non smelling, non shedding.

Paying thousands for Cava poos, malti chons, labr doodles is only promoting back yard greeders and animal abuse.

A dog drools, ****s, sheds, that's what they do.

As another person said, a dog is a living breathing creature.

Cleanfreak and dog dont fit together.

You might like the idea of a dog, but the reality might not suit you or the dog.

12-10-2020 1:07am

You want a non smelling dog that doesn't shed hair? How about a dogfish?

Honestly, what you are asking for doesnt exist. You could perhaps get a small smart terrier and teach him or her to use the toilet, but until they get it you will spend months cleaning up dog poop which smells, sometimes it smells very bad. And there is no guarantee the one you get will ever manage to get it right every time.

Besides poop, there is saliva, which even the smallest dog can create huge amounts of.

I'd love a dog too. I regularly look after my mothers yorkie and I forget how much work they can be until I have him and a busy work day together. Juggling a dog and work, especially if working from home, don't always compliment each other.

One day a few weeks ago, I fed and watered the dog in the morning, had back to back meetings all day, finished around 7, made myself something to eat, and then collapsed on the couch knackered, and he took his cue, brought his ball and said by his expressions: "Ok great, you're free now, lets play!".

It's very hard to tell a dog you're too tired to give him/her their deserved attention.

Rubberchikken · 12-10-2020 1:31am

A dog is a serious commitment.
Our westie, while 13, and the quietest most easy going soul I've ever met, she still loves her daily walk. Smart out, she knows all the signs that signal it's time to head out:)
She sheds very very little. Any hairs are the ones she kindly leaves on the side of sofa and arm chairs as she dries herself to her standard:)

Dogs, all pets, are fantastic but just like kids they need time ,attention , cleaning up after and loads of patience and love.

Give your decision a lot of thought Op.

12-10-2020 1:43am

Rubberchikken wrote: »

A dog is a serious commitment.
Our westie, while 13, and the quietest most easy going soul I've ever met, she still loves her daily walk. Smart out, she knows all the signs that signal it's time to head out:)
She sheds very very little. Any hairs are the ones she kindly leaves on the side of sofa and arm chairs as she dries herself to her standard:)

Dogs, all pets, are fantastic but just like kids they need time ,attention , cleaning up after and loads of patience and love.

Give your decision a lot of thought Op.

Off topic, but my dream dog is a Westie. Not for the lack of shedding, but for the personality.

NSAman · 12-10-2020 2:17am

Ok I am also a clean freak, but I have dogs.

Shedding is a major issue for me, but they are family and it only takes a few minutes to hoover a few times a day.

When the coat change comes, they get sent to the groomer and a good wash and blow does wonders. Normally takes two proper grooms before the shedding stops.

Dogs become family. My two are like any other member of the family. They have free reign of the house and know what to do and what not to do. They both have completely different personalities despite being half brothers.

If you work all day perhaps two dogs might be better. Dogs, like us, like company. My two are with me 24/7, they go to work with me, in fact practically everywhere.

Someone said you can’t take holidays, that is BS. I have a dog sitter come to the house when we go away. She loves the lads, they love her. It’s not a problem.

JustAThought · 12-10-2020 2:56am

OP - maybe if you want a non hassle non smelling affectionate non shedding pet that dosn’t cause a mess or demand much work and will give you lots of casual love you might consider a cat. You don’t have to walk it, pick
up its poo, wash it after its been out in the park= mud all afternoon, it won’t demand to
go outside in all weathers & the rain and then drag the wet sop in from outdoors in its coat and soggy muddy dirt filled undercarriage then sit steaming up the house with wet dog smell or leave wet patches and dirt trails on your floor/carpet/couch/stairs/duvet etc.

Fish are also fun and good that way.

Justin Credible Darts · 12-10-2020 2:57am

bobbyy gee wrote: »

forget going on holidays if you have a dog

its 16 years since my wife and I had a "holiday" that lasted longer than 5 days, so know where you are coming from.

One of my brothers comes and lives in my house for the few days we do manage to get away.

I know we could use kennels, but would prefer my dog be at home.

Graces7 · 12-10-2020 9:27am

Rubberchikken wrote: »

A dog is a serious commitment.
Our westie, while 13, and the quietest most easy going soul I've ever met, she still loves her daily walk. Smart out, she knows all the signs that signal it's time to head out:)
She sheds very very little. Any hairs are the ones she kindly leaves on the side of sofa and arm chairs as she dries herself to her standard:)

Dogs, all pets, are fantastic but just like kids they need time ,attention , cleaning up after and loads of patience and love.

Give your decision a lot of thought Op.

And they never grow up..

Graces7 · 12-10-2020 9:29am

JustAThought wrote: »

OP - maybe if you want a non hassle non smelling affectionate non shedding pet that dosn’t cause a mess or demand much work and will give you lots of casual love you might consider a cat. You don’t have to walk it, pick
up its poo, wash it after its been out in the park= mud all afternoon, it won’t demand to
go outside in all weathers & the rain and then drag the wet sop in from outdoors in its coat and soggy muddy dirt filled undercarriage then sit steaming up the house with wet dog smell or leave wet patches and dirt trails on your floor/carpet/couch/stairs/duvet etc.

Fish are also fun and good that way.

Ahem.. my cats do most of those things and more. Right now they are outside in the pouring rain and soon will demand in and,,,,, well you know the rest!

bertiebomber · 12-10-2020 10:10am

believe it or not a greyhound a small one is the easiest low maintenance dog. Each day they need 2x 20 minute walks 2 dinners and abut 20 hours sleep . they are in the rescues and in great need. They are loving quiet pets a lot are retired racers and are nearly worn out , a nice comfy bed regular food and some exercise in a stress free environment.
I have 2 in a very small house though i do have a garden . I have had every dog you can think of in my life and these are just peaceful creatures in need of kindness. Go to the rescues.

Alternatively why not volunteer at a rescue and walk some dogs learn about them before you bring one ino your life if you are really a clean freak its perhaps a better option for you as dogs dont clean or put their toys away. !!

12-10-2020 10:47am

bertiebomber wrote: »

believe it or not a greyhound a small one is the easiest low maintenance dog. Each day they need 2x 20 minute walks 2 dinners and abut 20 hours sleep . they are in the rescues and in great need. They are loving quiet pets a lot are retired racers and are nearly worn out , a nice comfy bed regular food and some exercise in a stress free environment.
I have 2 in a very small house though i do have a garden . I have had every dog you can think of in my life and these are just peaceful creatures in need of kindness. Go to the rescues.

Alternatively why not volunteer at a rescue and walk some dogs learn about them before you bring one ino your life if you are really a clean freak its perhaps a better option for you as dogs dont clean or put their toys away. !!

Second the above on greyhounds, friends of ours have three rescues from their local pound and they are couch potatoes.

12-10-2020 11:23am

bertiebomber wrote: »

Alternatively why not volunteer at a rescue and walk some dogs learn about them before you bring one ino your life if you are really a clean freak its perhaps a better option for you as dogs dont clean or put their toys away. !!

Thats probably the best advice so far. The OP should do that and see how he or she feels about picking up dog poo, mopping dog pee, experiencing the occasional aroma that might perfume the night air, and dealing with all the hair.

or put their toys away

Alfie is very good at putting his toys away. He also collects things. I cleaned out his bed recently and found the following things:

- a 2 euro coin
- a water bottle top
- a hairbrush
- an unidentifiable thing that I think used to be an end of a sandwich
- a toy car
- a lego man
- a bone
- 3 balls
- my sisters debit card

It's a wonder he was able to sleep on all of that.

sillysmiles · 12-10-2020 11:25am

Switch around your thinking- what can you and your lifestyle give a dog. This is a creature with emotional as well as physical care needs- so have a good think about what you can as well as what you want.
Remember it's a 15yr commitment and your future life decisions- homes jobs holidays relationships - all need to come from a place of you have a dog. It colours all aspects of your decision making.
In imo it's totally worth it!!

sporina · 12-10-2020 3:25pm

NSAman wrote: »

Ok I am also a clean freak, but I have dogs.

Shedding is a major issue for me, but they are family and it only takes a few minutes to hoover a few times a day.

When the coat change comes, they get sent to the groomer and a good wash and blow does wonders. Normally takes two proper grooms before the shedding stops.

Dogs become family. My two are like any other member of the family. They have free reign of the house and know what to do and what not to do. They both have completely different personalities despite being half brothers.

If you work all day perhaps two dogs might be better. Dogs, like us, like company. My two are with me 24/7, they go to work with me, in fact practically everywhere.

Someone said you can’t take holidays, that is BS. I have a dog sitter come to the house when we go away. She loves the lads, they love her. It’s not a problem.

what kind of dogs have you got?

bertiebomber wrote: »

believe it or not a greyhound a small one is the easiest low maintenance dog. Each day they need 2x 20 minute walks 2 dinners and abut 20 hours sleep . they are in the rescues and in great need. They are loving quiet pets a lot are retired racers and are nearly worn out , a nice comfy bed regular food and some exercise in a stress free environment.
I have 2 in a very small house though i do have a garden . I have had every dog you can think of in my life and these are just peaceful creatures in need of kindness. Go to the rescues.

Alternatively why not volunteer at a rescue and walk some dogs learn about them before you bring one ino your life if you are really a clean freak its perhaps a better option for you as dogs dont clean or put their toys away. !!

yeah thats a good idea.. will look into that..

thanks everyone for all the replies..

yeah I know it might not be a runner - hence I am looking into it..

I am not a cat person at all.. I just can't warm to them.. but thanks for the suggestion..

Justin Credible Darts · 12-10-2020 3:36pm

if you are worried too much about hair, worried more about the house, not up for walks, maybe you should not get a dog.

I do not mean that in a way to insult you, but part of having a dog is understanding things will happen, they will need walks sun , wind rain or snow and other things

Hooked · 12-10-2020 5:26pm

sillysmiles wrote: »

Switch around your thinking- what can you and your lifestyle give a dog. This is a creature with emotional as well as physical care needs- so have a good think about what you can as well as what you want.
Remember it's a 15yr commitment and your future life decisions- homes jobs holidays relationships - all need to come from a place of you have a dog. It colours all aspects of your decision making.
In imo it's totally worth it!!

Absolutely spot on!!!

I'm almost 10 years down that track and this was the thinking for us... They come on holidays, stay in pet-friendly accommodation... We've built a camper and the last 2 years they've only missed 1 or 2 trips away. For longer stints (we've been to the US and many sun holidays) you just have to find a reputable kennel that they WANT to go to... or a dog sitter. We use both!

They live IN the house with us. They roam freely. Sleep in the kitchen... etc... And their company has been invaluable to my wife who has been working from home since March!!!

They're social animals. As someone who has a modest mid-terrace home, with a small back garden.. it makes NO DIFFERENCE! If you exercise them and include them as part of your lifestyle - it makes owning one (or 2 in our case) all the more rewarding!

whisky_galore · 12-10-2020 5:27pm

anewme wrote: »

Op, unfortunately there is no perfect dog that will fit within your very strict parameters, cute, non smelling, non shedding.

Paying thousands for Cava poos, malti chons, labr doodles is only promoting back yard greeders and animal abuse.

A dog drools, ****s, sheds, that's what they do.

As another person said, a dog is a living breathing creature.

Cleanfreak and dog dont fit together.

You might like the idea of a dog, but the reality might not suit you or the dog.

Maybe a dog that takes AA batteries may suit?

Justin Credible Darts · 12-10-2020 5:34pm

Hooked wrote: »

Absolutely spot on!!!

I'm almost 10 years down that track and this was the thinking for us... They come on holidays, stay in pet-friendly accommodation... We've built a camper and the last 2 years they've only missed 1 or 2 trips away. For longer stints (we've been to the US and many sun holidays) you just have to find a reputable kennel that they WANT to go to... or a dog sitter. We use both!

They live IN the house with us. They roam freely. Sleep in the kitchen... etc... And their company has been invaluable to my wife who has been working from home since March!!!

They're social animals. As someone who has a modest mid-terrace home, with a small back garden.. it makes NO DIFFERENCE! If you exercise them and include them as part of your lifestyle - it makes owning one (or 2 in our case) all the more rewarding!

when I had the 2 collies and the shepherd, they all lived in the house, although my back door was left open at night,

one collie slept in the living room, the other on the top of the stairs where he could watch everything, and the shepherd at the end of the bed.

garden is about 20 ft by 80ft, as you say, once they got their exercise and walks, which was usually let free in the fields, and played with each other in the garden they had plenty.

the collies never cared about tv, but whatever it is with the shepherd, he loves the tv, but as soon as a horse, dog, cat, chicken appears on the screen he goes ballistic, yet in real life he has no problems with animals, it is him just being protective at home.

Dogs owners will understand this, but there are times they would have you in stitches laughing with some of their antics

AlphaDelta1 · 12-10-2020 5:37pm

OP. Think of a dog as a child you'll have for around 10-15 years depending on breed. Really it can take that level of commitment.

Id recommend approaching one of the rescue organisations about fostering for a time so you can grasp what you are getting into.

bertiebomber · 12-10-2020 6:29pm

i have 3 dogs and a very small house a bernese mountain dog & 2 greyhounds they roam the house have their beds but the greyhounds occasionally share mine depending on the temperature at 2 am they are great & i love what they give to my life structure proper eating times walks trips in the car interactions with other lovely dog people the plus'es out weigh the minus everytime.

Justin Credible Darts · 12-10-2020 6:41pm

they say a dog owner lives longer by 2 years life expectancy, as you will walk your dogs wind snow or rain, when most people would not venture out, they walk is just as much for us.

sporina · 12-10-2020 7:32pm

Have no prob walking the dog or taking it to a kennel if i wanna go on hols - but I do have an issue with it being on its own in the house for too long.. i would not do that to it..

Defo gonna get onto the rescue centre or what ever there is here in Cork..

Also, I am gonna put a "dog walking ad" up in the local shop...

Thanks a mill for all the replies.. and indeed.. as someone said - one with batteries might be more suitable for me at the mo lol..

JustAThought · 13-10-2020 9:43am

sporina wrote: »

Have no prob walking the dog or taking it to a kennel if i wanna go on hols - but I do have an issue with it being on its own in the house for too long.. i would not do that to it..

Defo gonna get onto the rescue centre or what ever there is here in Cork..

Also, I am gonna put a "dog walking ad" up in the local shop...

Thanks a mill for all the replies.. and indeed.. as someone said - one with batteries might be more suitable for me at the mo lol..

Hi OP - I’m not sure if you are offering yourself as a dog walker or checking to find one ! Just in case - a lot of people use either a daily dog walker who comes to their house when they are at work and walks their dog - leaving you with only one ling and maybe a second short morning walk to do. (Hence dog people loving the whole work from home thing - less expense and
more pet!) . Before the lockdown people used also use doggy day care where you could drop your dog in amd it would romp, be walked, and play (or snooze) all day while you were at work. A lot have closed now for the period while the covid is about but there used be a fair few in cork that I knew of as well as in Dublin.

As for offering yourself to commercially walk dogs if you’ve no experience I’d be a little wary. Peoples pets are the most precious thing they own & there is a bit of a knack to each dog & a lot of responsibility involved - people are very quick to photograph and call the dog warden who are commercially motivated and the fine for misbehaving or ‘out of control’ dogs goes to the person with/ walking the dog - not the owner. e130.

Hoboo · 13-10-2020 9:49am

monkeysnapper wrote: »

Nonsense

We went to florida start of year and we have a lovely lady we pay to look after them.... cost us 200 euro for 14 days and nights and I believe that's good value ..... you'll find these people if you take the time and pay them.

That depends on your attitude to dogs, and not everyones the same. That works for you, but it's quite rude and ignorant to dismiss the suggestion of not going on holidays as nonsense.

I agree with not going on holidays. Wouldn't leave my dogs with anyone else, no more I'd leave a child with a stranger. It's been staycations for the last 7 years and the dogs have been on every one.

I'd prefer achill with the dogs for two weeks than florida without them. I'd miss them too much.

JustAThought · 13-10-2020 9:59am

OP - a dog once walked and fed and comfortable ( ie indoors with its entertainment/ toys & usually on your couch) - once its not a puppy is usually OK to leave alone for a few hours - but not the whole day. 3 or 4 hours thou would be typically ok for a (not a puppy ) dog! If its a puppy you’d need to be there to check its ok, keep it company, stop it chewing your shoes/couch/skirting-boards etc and help it with its house training. So now woupd ge a great time if you are home all day to get one a be there to train it and supervise (love) it and set it settled in as a well adjusted, nicely trained bundle of love.

Sometimes you just have to take the plunge if its something you think is right for you and that your lifestyle and pocket can facilitate.
Here’s some idea of practical costs at the
moment!

Pet - purchase - skys your limit
Pet - rescue - about e250
Allinaz Pet Insurance - e200 ( a must have from puppy age - seriously keeps massive costs away)

Dog food & treats from e100-e200 per month depending on size dog & choice of food/delivery

Dog bed & startup collar/leads etc - e100-e150
Vet shots for puppy & 1st vet visit - e120 aprox
Puppy/Dog worming tablets - e30 aprox p.a.

Ongoing and Annual Stuff:
Dog walker if working away from home daily fee
Holidaying kennel charges (whose going anywhere nowadays! Aprox e20/30 per overnight)
Reinsure dog annually (essential) e200 aprox
Annual vet booster shots trip - e80 aprox
Surgical extraction of item from dog/ broken toe/ panic trip for dog x-ray find fathers watch etc - with insurance e70 without insurance e300+

There you go!

& Poo bags! 200 for a euro if you shop in Lidl and are happy to use scented nappy bags!
Fancy shoes and raincoat* ( for you!) for all that walking!
* raincoat for dog to keep its hair mostly dry optional!)

Wash your own dog in the sink/ outdoors and save yourself a fortuneðŸ˜Ž
Added vodka for telling dog stories or nerve calming. (optional!)

JustAThought · 13-10-2020 10:26am

https://dogtime.com/dog-breeds/shih-tzu

lots of different descriptions of dog breeds and their generalised characteristics here !

sporina · 13-10-2020 11:00am

@justathought - wow thanks for taking the time to compose such an informative (and funny) post lol..

there is a lot to think about.. I think a shelter/rescue is 1st port of call.. see if I could volunteer or something,. become more familiar with them..

whitelightrider · 27-10-2020 9:23am

Its funny because we're in the same boat. We're looking for a small dog that can become part of our family. I have 2 girls - youngest has a fear of dogs while the eldest literally loves every animal. We're hoping a smaller dog will help with the fear, but also be the pet that both girls can love.
We're looked at all the cross breed as they're advertised as hypoallergenic and non shedding (sounds like a tree), but oh man the costs are insane. 1600 for a male Cavachon! We're doing a lot of research - just hoping to find the right one to join our family.

anewme · 27-10-2020 9:31am

whitelightrider wrote: »

Its funny because we're in the same boat. We're looking for a small dog that can become part of our family. I have 2 girls - youngest has a fear of dogs while the eldest literally loves every animal. We're hoping a smaller dog will help with the fear, but also be the pet that both girls can love.
We're looked at all the cross breed as they're advertised as hypoallergenic and non shedding (sounds like a tree), but oh man the costs are insane. 1600 for a male Cavachon! We're doing a lot of research - just hoping to find the right one to join our family.

And that 1600 goes straight into the greeders pocket while the dogs parents live in misery. There is a very reputable rescue in Wicklow (we are not allowed name rescues here unfortunately) who put up a post on Instagram yesterday about Cava - dogs. It is a very direct post and anyone thinking of getting one of these 'hybrid" dogs should read it.

whitelightrider · 27-10-2020 9:35am

anewme wrote: »

And that 1600 goes straight into the greeders pocket while the dogs parents live in misery. There is a very reputable rescue in Wicklow (we are not allowed name rescues here unfortunately) who put up a post on Instagram yesterday about Cava - dogs. It is a very direct post and anyone thinking of getting one of these 'hybrid" dogs should read it.

Ill take a look at that. To be honest, we're completely new to the doggie world. My sister has a Bichon but my wife and little girl said no way to that breed

Im hoping to find the right breed as I know the timing is right for us as a family to get a little dog.

Dahdum · 27-10-2020 10:00am

whitelightrider wrote: »

Ill take a look at that. To be honest, we're completely new to the doggie world. My sister has a Bichon but my wife and little girl said no way to that breed
Im hoping to find the right breed as I know the timing is right for us as a family to get a little dog.

As far as I am aware (it’s posted quite frequently on here) reputable breeders are not breeding at the min due to Covid so I reckon any breeder you may see online right now is in all likelihood a backyard breeder or puppy farm or someone cashing in on the current pandemic (Open to correction on this). Have a look through the shelters and rescues or contact the Irish kennel club for breeder contacts for specific breeds - at least you’ll know who you are dealing with and the IKC breeders may give you an idea of future plans for breeding.

anewme · 27-10-2020 11:08am

whitelightrider wrote: »

Ill take a look at that. To be honest, we're completely new to the doggie world. My sister has a Bichon but my wife and little girl said no way to that breed
Im hoping to find the right breed as I know the timing is right for us as a family to get a little dog.

Im looking for a little dog myself and its eye opening to be honest.

No way will I support misery for any animal though, so Im being extra thorough. Eoin McDermott the TV presenter had to speak out recently as well as bought from a puppy farm and got a lot of negative feedback.

AndrewJRenko · 27-10-2020 11:20am

whitelightrider wrote: »

Ill take a look at that. To be honest, we're completely new to the doggie world. My sister has a Bichon but my wife and little girl said no way to that breed
Im hoping to find the right breed as I know the timing is right for us as a family to get a little dog.

Have you considered looking for the right dog rather than the right breed?

Graces7 · 27-10-2020 12:18pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Thats probably the best advice so far. The OP should do that and see how he or she feels about picking up dog poo, mopping dog pee, experiencing the occasional aroma that might perfume the night air, and dealing with all the hair.

Alfie is very good at putting his toys away. He also collects things. I cleaned out his bed recently and found the following things:

- a 2 euro coin
- a water bottle top
- a hairbrush
- an unidentifiable thing that I think used to be an end of a sandwich
- a toy car
- a lego man
- a bone
- 3 balls
- my sisters debit card

It's a wonder he was able to sleep on all of that.

That brings back memories. One of my cats way back used to hide hand brushes AND my false teeth.

whitelightrider · 27-10-2020 1:09pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Have you considered looking for the right dog rather than the right breed?

Yep, we have talked about this as a family. The reason we looked at the breed was because of the size. My youngest is very fearful of dogs so a small dog would help her. As for my eldest - she does have allergies. So we're looking for a small dog that doesnt shed too much. We know all dogs shed - its the nature

But trying to find something on the small size.

Dubl07 · 27-10-2020 1:22pm

whitelightrider wrote: »

Yep, we have talked about this as a family. The reason we looked at the breed was because of the size. My youngest is very fearful of dogs so a small dog would help her. As for my eldest - she does have allergies. So we're looking for a small dog that doesnt shed too much. We know all dogs shed - its the nature But trying to find something on the small size.

You might be surprised at how gentle and intuitive some larger breeds can be with nervous children. From staffies to labs, to standard poodles. On the allergy front, perhaps volunteer at a shelter for a bit with the children. Mum or dad with the children, other adult with the dog for a walk.

Graces7 · 27-10-2020 1:38pm

Dubl07 wrote: »

You might be surprised at how gentle and intuitive some larger breeds can be with nervous children. From staffies to labs, to standard poodles. On the allergy front, perhaps volunteer at a shelter for a bit with the children. Mum or dad with the children, other adult with the dog for a walk.

Perfect idea!

bertiebomber · 27-10-2020 9:21pm

yes volunteer or foster to see different types of dogs
i have 4 dogs a GSD a bernese a terrrier and a lurcher the best of them is the lurcher. Little or no shedding a quick zoom around a field and pretty much sleeps about 20 hours a day healthy just likes to be warm and dry and loves his dinner.
The GSD allergy problems
the Bernese sheds a ton of hair all the time despite grooming and i am a qualified groomer
terrier is very old now but has been a great little dog likes to chase cats mice rats pigeons foxes rabbits, steals food tears open the shopping farts a lot sheds a bit and now she is old she stalks me the shower the loo everywhere i go they are all absolutely great pals and protect my house very well. Wouldn't swap them for gold.

Justin Credible Darts · 27-10-2020 9:30pm

bertiebomber wrote: »

yes volunteer or foster to see different types of dogs
i have 4 dogs a GSD a bernese a terrrier and a lurcher the best of them is the lurcher. Little or no shedding a quick zoom around a field and pretty much sleeps about 20 hours a day healthy just likes to be warm and dry and loves his dinner.
The GSD allergy problems
the Bernese sheds a ton of hair all the time despite grooming and i am a qualified groomer
terrier is very old now but has been a great little dog likes to chase cats mice rats pigeons foxes rabbits, steals food tears open the shopping farts a lot sheds a bit and now she is old she stalks me the shower the loo everywhere i go they are all absolutely great pals and protect my house very well. Wouldn't swap them for gold.

my long hair shepherd is like your bernese, in that he sheds

like theother dog wanting to chase everything
and roots through the shopping
and as for belching, burping and farting, he is something else (usually when he was on the steroids)

tries to get in the bath with me, follows me everywhere

even if I got up at night to go to the toilet or woke up early, he follows me, has to be involved in everything.

bertiebomber · 27-10-2020 10:30pm

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

my long hair shepherd is like your bernese, in that he sheds

like theother dog wanting to chase everything
and roots through the shopping
and as for belching, burping and farting, he is something else (usually when he was on the steroids)

tries to get in the bath with me, follows me everywhere

even if I got up at night to go to the toilet or woke up early, he follows me, has to be involved in everything.

dont you just love that a creature could care that much for you it warms my heart and no human has ever warmed my heart like the dogs do i know i must be a nutter but i am not its just animals are very special when you really see them !!

Justin Credible Darts · 27-10-2020 10:36pm

said it before and always stand by it, I would put my dog ahead of almost any human on this planet...exceptions being my own family.

If I were on a sinking boat and there was only room for one more in a lifeboat, my dog would get the spot before women, children, cripples, old etc could drown for all I care, dog comes first before any human outside my family,

uncles, cousins,.,,,yep they are drowning too.

Dogs dont start wars,
dogs never had slavery
dogs have a respect for elders which you would not see in most humans

Chances are if you come across a bad dog, its the owners fault.

jrosen · 27-10-2020 10:41pm

I dont think anything can prepare you for a dog, but its imo the best addition to your life.

I wanna get a dog... q's..

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