Census Help!

hayzer · 17-01-2011 10:33pm #1

Hi, The last time I post for help I promise haha - but if anyone can help me find what I am looking for that would be perfect.

I can find this Maguire family in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Emerald_Place/13537/

They don't seem to exist at all in 1901 even under the Mcguire.

Thanks

pinkypinky · 18-01-2011 10:59am

Right, I had a good look using Maguire, McGuire, MacGuire and even MacUidhir. Can't find them. I tried searching for just first names in combination with the birth county and approx ages, as well as searching for each of the 3 eldest sons. From the 1911 census, there's a 6th child, probably the eldest who is absent from this return.

hayzer · 18-01-2011 12:16pm

pinkypinky wrote: »

Right, I had a good look using Maguire, McGuire, MacGuire and even MacUidhir. Can't find them. I tried searching for just first names in combination with the birth county and approx ages, as well as searching for each of the 3 eldest sons. From the 1911 census, there's a 6th child, probably the eldest who is absent from this return.

So is it possible they didn't live in Ireland then?

pinkypinky · 18-01-2011 3:14pm

It's much more likely to be bad transcription. But you'd have to click through to each potential and view the forms yourself to be sure.

Try this: select 12 year child 1911 and find his birth cert using familysearch. Get the address from that and try it in the 1901 census. The chances are good that they'd still be in that place. If no joy, get the addresses for the 2 younger daughters, I know they wouldn't have been born in 1901, but again, more addresses to try.

Ponster · 18-01-2011 4:44pm

It's beaten me.

There is no "Mary Anne" born in County Louth, ~30years of age and married who matches up even if the surname was registered as something different.

pinkypinky · 18-01-2011 5:12pm

Yeah - she could easily be down as just "Mary" on the 1901.

Alicat · 20-01-2011 2:08am

This is a hard one!

I did find a possible/probable birth record here for the 12 year old Thomas. I searched the whole area of that address for 1901 and found nothing.

shanew · 20-01-2011 9:59am

I was going to suggest that the street number (7 Harmony Row) may have been mis-recorded or mis-transcribed on that baptism record, as numbers 5 to 12 Harmony Row are listed on the 1901 building returns as 'carriage works' ... but then spotted Thomas's 1911 occupation of 'coach smith', so looking like a good connection.

see http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003814040/ (building return)

Even thought the works is listed on the census building return as unoccupied, maybe the family was living in some accommodation in the works and the enumerator missed them ?

The works is also shown at the same location in Thom's 1894 as 'Coach Works', with John Begley as the proprietor. There's one named household (Mr. Michael Cashin) and a few businesses listed on the street (the coach works, provision dealer, slater & horseshoer), and there are also a few tenement at 1,2,14,15,16,18 & 19

Shane

pinkypinky · 20-01-2011 11:10am

Nice piece of detective work, Shane. That looks a good possibility. OP: it may be worth going into the National Archives and looking at the original returns for that street.

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