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RTE Cutbacks The Plan

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    A lot of people have DAB only radios. This will leave a lot of people without radio.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Why isn’t the government asking them to shut down 2fm? They have been flogging that dead horse for years now

    Lottie Ryan and that shower of gobsh*t they have now stuck onto breakfast is sending ratings down the pan

    Putting that Jen one on a chat show was a master stroke of stupidity....again another ratings nose dive

    The 200 people let go will probably people they actually need but they will keep a shower of clowns on huge wages.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Bob Harris wrote: »
    Tubridy's salary was 723k in 2011
    sweet jesus


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭u140acro3xs7dm


    Bob Harris wrote: »
    Tubridy's salary was 723k in 2011. 8 years later and it'll be not much more than half that.
    Still a generous salary but from his point of view it has to sting a bit losing just over 300k per year in that time.

    It is now 495k, that is a reduction of 228k, not "just over 300k".

    Do you work in the RTE accounts department?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    sweet jesus

    Oh yes, any money they do get instead of investing in long term future etc they plough into terrible presenters who no other tv or radio station would hire for half the wages they are on


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    It is now 495k, that is a reduction of 228k, not "just over 300k".

    Do you work in the RTE accounts department?

    It's now 495k but will be reduced by 15% bringing it to 420k after this proposed cut. So it's just over 300k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    Gerry G wrote: »
    Lottie Ryan. That is all

    I use to feel the same but my opinion has changed. Its not her fault RTE were stupid enough to pay her the amount she is on to be a showbiz reporter...ie read the dailymail.If you were in your 20s and offerred that amount of money for a handy number you would bite their hand off. Another clear example of bad management of RTE in relation to Lottie is not having her fill on for Eoghan McDermot the last few weeks. How much money was wasted on Greg O Shea hes so boring he would put you back to sleep. I have not heard one positive word about him on it. When Lottie filled in for Jennifer Mc on thr previous breakfast show she wasnt all that bad

    The only popular 2Fm show amoung young people is Jenny Green and RTE were shamed into bringing her back


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    Bob Harris wrote: »
    Tubridy's salary was 723k in 2011.
    sweet jesus

    I know, people are outraged now about 495k!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭elfy4eva


    Here's RTÉ's article on the subject, much of the same but the two paragraphs I glean from it besides the cuts are Dee Forbes and Moya Doherty whinging for the government to show leadership on a "reform" of the "broken" TV licence system. It's the same tune from them but funny to see them speak in riddles to avoid the backlash.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/1106/1089209-rte-cuts/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I use to feel the same but my opinion has changed. Its not her fault RTE were stupid enough to pay her the amount she is on to be a showbiz reporter...ie read the dailymail.If you were in your 20s and offerred that amount of money for a handy number you would bite their hand off. Another clear example of bad management of RTE in relation to Lottie is not having her fill on for Eoghan McDermot the last few weeks. How much money was wasted on Greg O Shea hes so boring he would put you back to sleep. I have not heard one positive word about him on it. When Lottie filled in for Jennifer Mc on thr previous breakfast show she wasnt all that bad

    The only popular 2Fm show amoung young people is Jenny Green and RTE were shamed into bringing her back

    She is in her 30’s

    Replacing Jen is hardly hard, just say the odd statement which she thinks is sarky and pick up a pay check....

    Jen got boring about two days after starting on the radio, push on how many years and it’s the same stuff as always


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭u140acro3xs7dm


    Bob Harris wrote: »
    It's now 495k but will be reduced by 15% bringing it to 420k after this proposed cut. So it's just over 300k.

    Fair enough, I didn't factor the latest cut in - 420k is still 4 times more than he should be earning. If he doesn't like it, then he can fukc off.

    Any eejit can do the late late and it will still be watched by the same crowd, does anybody under 50 actually watch it? This week Ryan interviews Marty Morrissey, next week it is Anne Doyle, followed by some other RTE celeb who is doing a 5k for charity. It is absolute drivel of the highest order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Virgin Media don't need a license and are starting to move ahead of RTE in terms of watchability.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Virgin Media don't need a license and are starting to move ahead of RTE in terms of watchability.

    Only if you are blind! It's ITV with a worse picture quality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭dvdman1


    Only if you are blind! It's ITV with a worse picture quality.

    The HD is sold to sky and the likes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,851 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Vastly reduce the fees paid to the likes of Ray Darcy joe Duffy, tubridy etc. they are not good value for money, quite the opposite.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,460 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Still hanging on to RTE2 and 2FM for some reason


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,460 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Virgin Media don't need a license and are starting to move ahead of RTE in terms of watchability.

    They get paid monthly subscriptions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,460 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Fair enough, I didn't factor the latest cut in - 420k is still 4 times more than he should be earning. If he doesn't like it, then he can fukc off.

    Any eejit can do the late late and it will still be watched by the same crowd, does anybody under 50 actually watch it? This week Ryan interviews Marty Morrissey, next week it is Anne Doyle, followed by some other RTE celeb who is doing a 5k for charity. It is absolute drivel of the highest order.

    So you could do the late late?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭dhaughton99


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Still hanging on to RTE2 and 2FM for some reason

    If they got rid of these, then where are the kids of the upper levels going to get jobs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭eusap


    Will somebody think of the children of Ireland they are shutting down the RTE Junior radio station.

    I have a UK import car with a DAB radio so having RTE Jnr in the car was perfect also at home it is the most listened to radio station on the smart speaker..... Now i will have to be prepared and create my own spotify playlist

    Considering most of the content was bought in (often american) surely the cost is not that high, i was always surprised there was little advertisement considering Kids TV is full of ads


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,851 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Agree. There is a hardcore of late late and indeed RTÉ viewers. They lap up any old drivel featuring the same merry go round of “personalities” such as

    Francis Brennan
    Marty morissey
    Pat short
    Louie welsh
    Twink
    Mary. O rourke
    Any number of dreadful country and Irish “stars”

    It’s tired stale stupid tv. It’s drivel as the other poster says.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,460 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    If they got rid of these, then where are the kids of the upper levels going to get jobs?

    Researchers for the late late


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Doireann Gahirty, Bernard o Shea, Vogue ... Huberman Ray Darcy , Jennifer Maguire, eoin McDermott.... most of these planks need to be culled and whomever gave them shows needs to be booted

    The idea that vouge williams opening her giant mouth is worth money is the most offensive opinion in irish media


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,580 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Does anybody outside of RTE want Ray Darcy? Highly unlikely - so offer him 40k a year.

    :confused:

    He came from private broadcasting where he had the most listened to show in the stations history and still holds that record.

    His current show beats every show on Newstalk and Todayfm for listenership figures.

    So I would suggest you are someway past wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Won’t anybody think of tubs,Marian and friends - now going to be on the bread line

    What will her 17 kids get for Xmas now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,851 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Boggles wrote: »
    :confused:

    He came from private broadcasting where he had the most listened to show in the stations history and still holds that record.

    His current show beats every show on Newstalk and Todayfm for listenership figures.

    So I would suggest you are someway past wrong.

    I fully agree. Call his bluff. Ppl despise him and his little entourage - will and the wife. Get rid of dead wood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭cmac2009


    Bryan Dobson asking a few difficult questions of Dee Forbes a moment ago on Radio 1. Quite surprised, was expecting PR piece.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,851 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    cmac2009 wrote: »
    Bryan Dobson asking a few difficult questions of Dee Forbes a moment ago on Radio 1. Quite surprised, was expecting PR piece.

    That interview was symptomatic of RTÉs problems. No need to take up almost half an hour on morning irl discussing the details of the deal.

    ‘Twas more suited to questions in the canteen but of course RTÉ staff are so important don’t ya know!!

    If it was literally any other organization morning Ireland would’ve done 5 mins tops discussing the plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    a saving of 400k a year out of 3 million from all the top "earners"

    absolute joke


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Brian is on 200k a year and is right in the firing line for this.:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,580 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I fully agree. Call his bluff. Ppl despise him and his little entourage - will and the wife. Get rid of dead wood.

    You mean you despise them.

    Making business decisions on the back of random peoples personal opinions would be the work of the abject simpleton.

    I was willing to give Dee a chance, my faith waned a little but I think she is going in the right direction with this package of measures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Bob Harris wrote: »
    Tubridy's salary was 723k in 2011. 8 years later and it'll be not much more than half that.
    Still a generous salary but from his point of view it has to sting a bit losing just over 300k per year in that time.

    Hope he realises that the reduction reflects the quality of his output.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    A lot of people have DAB only radios. This will leave a lot of people without radio.

    Hired a van a couple of years ago and it only seemed to have dab radio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,851 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Boggles wrote: »
    You mean you despise them.

    Making business decisions on the back of random peoples personal opinions would be the work of the abject simpleton.

    I was willing to give Dee a chance, my faith waned a little but I think she is going in the right direction with this package of measures.

    Boggles my dear I don’t hate nor despise anyone!

    But I do know a huge proportion of RTÉ listeners are absolutely amazed the money that has been thrown at ray Darcy for his simpleton level radio and tv shows. The wife and will profiting along with him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    elfy4eva wrote: »
    Here's RTÉ's article on the subject, much of the same but the two paragraphs I glean from it besides the cuts are Dee Forbes and Moya Doherty whinging for the government to show leadership on a "reform" of the "broken" TV licence system. It's the same tune from them but funny to see them speak in riddles to avoid the backlash.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/1106/1089209-rte-cuts/

    I read an article elsewhere, and it mentions who the boats of rte are not happy with the performance of the executives and their half assed attempts to save the station. Can remember which outlet it was though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭Banzai600


    im not one for job losses, but RTE service is rubbish, there is nothing bar the news the odd time we watch & primetime, aside from that there is nothing but junk , which a leg up for the so called socialites and their businesses, and the overpaid presenters etc. We watch mostly foreign tv, id say 99% & knitlfix

    a completely repugnant and greedy sloth of broadcaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,974 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    A lot of people have DAB only radios. This will leave a lot of people without radio.

    Is DAB not on life support anyway? Surely it's days are numbered with internet radio and Alexa's etc and other simpler ways of listening to radio?

    I bought a DAB radio for quite a bit of money for a simple radio :eek: and it never worked, sitting at the back of press somewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,851 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    “Paddy o Gorman goes out with stags and hens in carrick on Shannon”

    Ffs. Such tripe RTÉ serve


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Why can't they put the presenters on a base salary and then give them a profit share agreement?? Have a good show that people watch/listen to then you get more money otherwise you just get the basic. George Hamilton on 200 jumps out at me, theres loads of people that would do that job better for free.

    1 thing that i do agree with RTE on is the license fee collection, why does it cost so much and why is there so much avoidance? The UK has a 3.6% collection charge and 5% avoidance thats what should be targeted numbers, if An Post cant deliver that I'm sures there's plenty who will.

    By the way, I'm not a license fee fan but its in place so it should be enforce/collected correctly


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Minister Heather Humphries? getting roasted by Audrey next.

    WHERE IS OUR LICENCE FEE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,974 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    “Paddy o Gorman goes out with stags and hens in carrick on Shannon”

    Ffs. Such tripe RTÉ serve

    Would be nice if these subjective rants about what individual people like or dislike could be kept for an AH thread.
    You cannot run an organisation on subjective tastes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,460 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    McGaggs wrote: »
    Hired a van a couple of years ago and it only seemed to have dab radio.

    They've dropped all the DAB stations?

    Lyric benefitted greatly from the sound quality. Pity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,384 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    RTE should consist of 1 radio station, 1 tv station and a web service, all of which are concentrated on providing real public service output.

    If people want to watch chat shows, sport, soap operas or reality tv sh1te there are countless options available for them on the commercial networks.

    The tv license should cost citizens no more than €50 a year.

    RTE is an anachronistic dinosaur who operate financially on the assumption that everyone is still living in 1980's 2-channel land. There is absolutely no need for it in its current form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,580 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Boggles my dear I don’t hate nor despise anyone!

    But I do know a huge proportion of RTÉ listeners are absolutely amazed the money that has been thrown at ray Darcy for his simpleton level radio and tv shows. The wife and will profiting along with him

    How do you know a "huge proportion of RTE listeners".? I know you have "contacts" literally everywhere, but still. :confused:

    The question posed was would he make it in private radio, he did and he has. He has also grown the numbers in the slot he took over in RTE.

    I'm not a fan and I think he is paid too much, but like I said the people in charge cannot make business decisions based on the voices in some randoms person head on the internet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    I will miss rte gold just as it was getting a life of its own with good presenters. those presenters are mostly rte employees not contract staff so what are they going to do with them?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,851 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Boggles wrote: »
    How do you know a "huge proportion of RTE listeners".? I know you have "contacts" literally everywhere, but still. :confused:

    The question posed was would he make it in private radio, he did and he has. He has also grown the numbers in the slot he took over in RTE.

    I'm not a fan and I think he is paid too much, but like I said the people in charge cannot make business decisions based on the voices in some randoms person head on the internet.

    I am sceptical about his so called popularity. I regularly hear ppl bitterly criticize him and cannot hand on heart say I’ve ever heard someone say they are a fan of either his radio or tv show

    Anyway, moving on I would say call his bluff offer him a rock bottom fee and I suspect he will take it. If not, no hard feelings ray it’s not personal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,002 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I will miss rte gold just as it was getting a life of its own with good presenters. those presenters are mostly rte employees not contract staff so what are they going to do with them?

    Some of the 200 lay offs I'd guess.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    Virgin Media don't need a license and are starting to move ahead of RTE in terms of watchability.
    thats the best laugh I have had in years....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,002 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I wonder will this be discussed on the LiveLine today?

    I'm guessing no hope, like always.

    RTE salaries and cutbacks are never discussed as it means Joe's wages might come up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,580 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I am sceptical about his so called popularity. I regularly hear ppl bitterly criticize him and cannot hand on heart say I’ve ever heard someone say they are a fan of either his radio or tv show

    I thought you were basing it on you personally knowing a "huge proportion of RTE listeners". :confused:

    That was downgraded quite quickly. :pac:
    Anyway, moving on I would say call his bluff offer him a rock bottom fee and I suspect he will take it. If not, no hard feelings ray it’s not personal

    That's the very definition of personal. :confused:


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