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19-10-2020, 16:17   #1
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Sinn Féin tells State watchdog UK rules apply to €4m donation

I found this an interesting article.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/poli...tion-1.4384246

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In the Republic, the maximum donation that can be accepted by a political party is €2,500
The execution of this will could possibly be in question as it was stated he left the bulk of his estate “in trust for the political party in the Republic of Ireland known at this time as Sinn Féin”.

Yet Sinn Fein have used their Northern Ireland location to accept the €4m donation as the UK's donation rules do not have a limit from individuals.

Whether there is more to come on this or not it appears the Irish watchdog can go no further.
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19-10-2020, 16:23   #2
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Could this be a way for other parties to circumvent fundraising rules by setting up shop in Northern Ireland?
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19-10-2020, 16:42   #3
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The majority of parties have an NI setup already, FF, Green, PBP, Aontú and obviously SF. It's basically FG and Labour who don't.
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SF are “as British as Finchley” when it suits them.
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SF are “as British as Finchley” when it suits them.
Have their tea cake and eat it
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Well, now they can buy as much cake as they wish.

What do the anti-SF brigade think they should do with the money?
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So sinn fein south of the border cannot access any of these funds i presume?
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Well, now they can buy as much cake as they wish.

What do the anti-SF brigade think they should do with the money?
Decline it, obviously.
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It's ironic in the extreme but nothing less than what you'd expect from SF.

When SF want to insult someone for not being as republican as they think they are, they accuse them of having a 'partitionist mentality'. They then conveniently declare themselves to be two separate entities so that the NI wing can evade ethical rules on donations.

Which is about as partitionist as you can get
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Its obvious that this proves that SF want to keep the 6 countues as part of the UK.
Helps keep them in power.
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20-10-2020, 09:49   #11
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Legally playing the system, fair play.
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There seem to be two rules here that are important in this issue.

The limit of €2,500 per donation but more importantly that the individual was not eligible to donate this money to a political party in Ireland (ROI) as he was neither an Irish citizen nor resident for the required amount of time.

However the focus should be on the executers or the Will. The money has not been given to Sinn Fein (Republic of Ireland) as instructed.
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However the focus should be on the executers or the Will. The money has not been given to Sinn Fein (Republic of Ireland) as instructed.
If there has been legal malpractice in the execution of the will, the 'injured party' is SF in the south. And they're not going to take a case against the executor. So nothing will happen.
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If there has been legal malpractice in the execution of the will, the 'injured party' is SF in the south. And they're not going to take a case against the executor. So nothing will happen.
Nope. The injured party is whoever would get the money if it were offered to SF in the Republic and they declined it - the residuary beneficiaries under the will.
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Nope. The injured party is whoever would get the money if it were offered to SF in the Republic and they declined it - the residuary beneficiaries under the will.
The guy made his will in 1997 and never changed it. So it looks like SF was the residuary legatee.
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