Aston Villa Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours/Champions League Thread 2024/25

Easy Rod · 23-10-2020 11:29pm

Patser wrote: »

Rebel - I think I was one of those you were responding to.

I still stand by it - kind of - Bamford definitely was the one to stand/stamp on Mings. In the replayes to me it looked like a stamp, but replays can be misleading compared to real time and I'm willing to say it could have been accidental.

But I think there's less doubt that he threw his leg high up into the air - over his head actually - to try claim he was fouled and get a peno. I can understand Mings frustration, to be stood on and then watch that player go down claiming you did it - although never great to see one of your players grab an opponent, always a risk of a red card for retaliation.

As you say, you're not a Villa fan, so there is history here with Bamford for exactly this behaviour a few seasons ago, that did get a Villa player sent off

Bamford is incredibly irritating. But it was pretty clear to me that someone’s laces got caught on the other’s studs which caused his leg to react like that. Mings obviously felt very little contact and assumed the worst and reacted stupidly.

Esse85 · 23-10-2020 11:33pm

In the first half, I though I saw a challenge in the box where Konsa deliberately fell on Bamford and looked like he could of avoided landing on him.
Commentators didn't mention it, maybe I'm imagining it, but when I saw it, I just thought Konsa has left something on him there.

Did anyone else spot that?

Easy Rod · 23-10-2020 11:40pm

Yep, defo did. Very minor though. Did Klich do something similar to Grealish, kind of leaned his fist into his face while Grealish was on the ground.

You can see how annoying both players would be to opposing team!!

pavb2 · 23-10-2020 11:51pm

Did anyone else think the grass was a bit too short tonight?

~Rebel~ · 24-10-2020 12:23am

Patser wrote: »

Rebel - I think I was one of those you were responding to.

I still stand by it - kind of - Bamford definitely was the one to stand/stamp on Mings. In the replayes to me it looked like a stamp, but replays can be misleading compared to real time and I'm willing to say it could have been accidental.

But I think there's less doubt that he threw his leg high up into the air - over his head actually - to try claim he was fouled and get a peno. I can understand Mings frustration, to be stood on and then watch that player go down claiming you did it - although never great to see one of your players grab an opponent, always a risk of a red card for retaliation.

As you say, you're not a Villa fan, so there is history here with Bamford for exactly this behaviour a few seasons ago, that did get a Villa player sent off

Ah gotcha, thanks for providing the context! The reaction makes more sense now.

Lamper.sffc · 24-10-2020 1:22am

Guys I understand the Bamford dislike (from a villa point of view) but seriously Grealish does a lot worse and more often. Can we al least agree on that?

Brian201888 · 24-10-2020 1:24am

Nakamba for Barkley and trying to build some sort of defensive structure probably should have happened but easier to say in retrospect. Think we've just been done by a well drilled team, they murdered Cash all night despite him personally not doing a whole heap wrong.

It'll be a familiar sight in the games we lose this season we don't have the squad to make meaningful changes. Watkins and Barkley were both dreadful which didn't help. Hopefully we see a big reaction against Southampton

CSF · 24-10-2020 1:27am

Brian201888 wrote: »

Nakamba for Barkley and trying to build some sort of defensive structure probably should have happened but easier to say in retrospect. Think we've just been done by a well drilled team, they murdered Cash all night despite him personally not doing a whole heap wrong.

It'll be a familiar sight in the games we lose this season we don't have the squad to make meaningful changes. Watkins and Barkley were both dreadful which didn't help. Hopefully we see a big reaction against Southampton

I dunno about the substitution one there being a thing you’d look in retrospect. He was truly appalling. A 2/10 at best performance.

Corholio · 24-10-2020 5:18am

Lamper.sffc wrote: »

Guys I understand the Bamford dislike (from a villa point of view) but seriously Grealish does a lot worse and more often. Can we al least agree on that?

No.

Patser · 25-10-2020 4:42pm

Everton losing means that with our game in hand, the title is still in our own hands to win:pac:

Panrich · 25-10-2020 4:56pm

I see we're finally resurfacing after Friday night. It's mad to think that we're almost no worse off despite the defeat.

CSF · 25-10-2020 5:50pm

Panrich wrote: »

I see we're finally resurfacing after Friday night. It's mad to think that we're almost no worse off despite the defeat.

Unfortunately we have Southampton next week who looked like Bayern today.

Neil3030 · 25-10-2020 8:01pm

CSF wrote: »

Unfortunately we have Southampton next week who looked like Bayern today.

Did So'ton play with a high line in defense?

We certainly did well against Liverpool who defend like that.

CSF · 25-10-2020 11:54pm

Neil3030 wrote: »

Did So'ton play with a high line in defense?

We certainly did well against Liverpool who defend like that.

Not as recklessly as they have in some other games

Brian201888 · 28-10-2020 7:49pm

Heaton made his return today in a behind closed doors friendly against West Brom

JPA · 28-10-2020 10:54pm

Brian201888 wrote: »

Heaton made his return today in a behind closed doors friendly against West Brom

3-1 win, Neil Taylor, Davis and Traore.

Ronan Raver77 · 29-10-2020 8:14pm

Another game PPV

LeBash · 30-10-2020 9:50am

Ronan Raver77 wrote: »

Another game PPV

And......our next game as well. 3 in a row is an absolute joke. I got a now tv sports pack offer thinking I'd catch most of the games.

JPA · 30-10-2020 10:46am

Will teams outside the top 6 end up on PPV more? Any evidence so far?

artanevilla · 30-10-2020 10:58am

Villa were bottom of the PPV table I saw on BBC (most times on PPV) and Everton were top, £0 to watch them.

basillarkin · 30-10-2020 12:01pm

Iptv

LeBash · 30-10-2020 12:06pm

basillarkin wrote: »

Iptv

No idea how any of that works. Used to watch the games on Iraqi Goals but thats gone.

basillarkin · 30-10-2020 3:08pm

If you have an android box, firestix, nividia shield they all run iptv as do numerous other boxes. Than you just need a sub.Prefer the ethenet over wireless as more stable condition.

Brian201888 · 01-11-2020 12:00pm

Traore starts

kilburn · 01-11-2020 12:11pm

Brian201888 wrote:

Traore starts

Bit harsh on Trez

CSF · 01-11-2020 12:11pm

Don’t like that lineup against a team like Southampton, who are better going forward than we are.

Very eager to be wrong.

Esse85 · 01-11-2020 12:18pm

CSF wrote: »

Don’t like that lineup against a team like Southampton, who are better going forward than we are.

Very eager to be wrong.

I'm eager to see how Traore plays today.

I was the first to criticise him within 10 mins of his debut because I'd watched him show no interest in tracking back, that attitude on your debut really irritated me.

I hope now several weeks on, he's up to speed, knows what's required of him, and puts in a shift.

As poor as Trez is in terms of quality and final ball, I can never question the unselfish shift he regularly contributes for the team.

JPA · 01-11-2020 12:52pm

CSF wrote: »

Don’t like that lineup against a team like Southampton, who are better going forward than we are.

Very eager to be wrong.

What's wrong with it? It's about discipline really, McGinn and Barkley have to play their part defensively when required.

CSF · 01-11-2020 12:57pm

JPA wrote: »

What's wrong with it? It's about discipline really, McGinn and Barkley have to play their part defensively when required.

I don't know if Traore, McGinn and Barkley are suited to playing their part defensively in their team. I'd have played one of McGinn and Barkley with Nakamba and Trez instead of Traore.

I think our start has given us some delusions of grandeur in terms of our ability to go toe to toe with better attacking teams.

JPA · 01-11-2020 1:00pm

CSF wrote: »

I don't know if Traore, McGinn and Barkley are suited to playing their part defensively in their team. I'd have played one of McGinn and Barkley with Nakamba and Trez instead of Traore.

I think our start has given us some delusions of grandeur in terms of our ability to go toe to toe with better attacking teams.

We'll see what happens. Southampton are a good team but they can be cut apart as well. We have to play to our strengths, no point changing our approach at home against the likes of Southampton.

Aston Villa Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours/Champions League Thread 2024/25

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