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10-02-2020, 13:24   #1
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Next governments affect on housing market

Looking like SF will be having a big say in the next government. The people have spoken like it or not. What affects on the housing market will we see ? I assume alot of landlords will be looking at selling with a full socialist manifest looming.
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Looking like SF will be having a big say in the next government. The people have spoken like it or not. What affects on the housing market will we see ? I assume alot of landlords will be looking at selling with a full socialist manifest looming.
Personally I see a tax credit for tenants. Non tax compliant landlords will leave. SF want indefinite tenancies where you can't evict for reason of selling or for own use. They want to enshrine the right to housing in the Constitution.

I would expect the tax credit and selling with tenants in situ will happen, not sure about the using property for own use. How would it be fair if the tenant had greater rights under the Constitution than the landlord or one of his family.
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I really hope SF deliver more social housing, cheaper rents, cheaper purchase prices and everything that got them the support they received. I believe more interference will only make things worse - but I hope I'm wrong.

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I assume alot of landlords will be looking at selling with a full socialist manifest looming.
I think any landlord who would sell up based on SF's manifesto has already made that decision long ago.
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I really hope SF deliver more social housing, cheaper rents, cheaper purchase prices and everything that got them the support they received. I believe more interference will only make things worse - but I hope I'm wring.
At what cost. Will SF provide all social housing if they run with all they have been saying the day of the private landlord will be coming to a close.
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I really hope SF deliver more social housing, cheaper rents, cheaper purchase prices and everything that got them the support they received. I believe more interference will only make things worse - but I hope I'm wring.
I expect the housing situation to get worse rather than any better. We don't have the funds to take debt on the States books.

Unless we get a change in our bail out terms how will we pay for these properties.

I fear that we have not learned the lessons of the past and if we build vast amounts of social housing we will end up the same issues we had in Tallaght, Ballymun, Limerick from the 1980's onwards those that became no go area's where people did not want to live.
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Well, there isn't going to be any large amount of houses built for 3+ years - planning, land issues, financing

we don't have the manpower to build loads of new houses
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Well, there isn't going to be any large amount of houses built for 3+ years - planning, land issues, financing

we don't have the manpower to build loads of new houses
You could be right. .. so a roll back on SF promises... surely not ..
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Well, there isn't going to be any large amount of houses built for 3+ years - planning, land issues, financing

we don't have the manpower to build loads of new houses
Yeah I would totally agree with you on this what you might see is the sale of valuable state land in the city used to finance the build costs of properties outside the city but still in Dublin.

I do think the biggest issue is the manpower, we just don't have it. I do recall Mary Lou being asked by Miriam O'Callaghan on one of the leaders debates how would SF build the houses they were promising and she could not answer.

I do think there will be some roll back on this part of their manifesto.
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Yeah I would totally agree with you on this what you might see is the sale of valuable state land in the city used to finance the build costs of properties outside the city but still in Dublin.

I do think the biggest issue is the manpower, we just don't have it. I do recall Mary Lou being asked by Miriam O'Callaghan on one of the leaders debates how would SF build the houses they were promising and she could not answer.

I do think there will be some roll back on this part of their manifesto.
builders aren't going to want the work from the state, when they won't make a profit on it due to the inflation on building costs.
and you cannot get a tradesman down the country for love nor money.

I'm very sceptical about any promises for large scale building of houses. Will the quality suffer? then they'll have to reduce building standards to lower the cost.
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I hope SF don’t cock things up so much that they’re uncockable once the electorate realise they were never suitable for government and send them back to sniping (pun intended) from the sidelines.
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Never forget SF were very present in local councils. The councils that took payout rather than provide 10% of the housing being built. They then proceeded to not build the housing with the money they had.

Once they do get in power they will find all the reasons they can't do what they proposed due existing laws.
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builders aren't going to want the work from the state, when they won't make a profit on it due to the inflation on building costs. and you cannot get a tradesman down the country for love nor money.
Yes they will. They will just price their profit into the jobs.

Based on other recent government schemes, the final cost will be triple whatever the original estimates were
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Whatever level of influence SF has in the next government, it is abundantly clear that the current housing situation (compounded by the last 9 years) is toxic and needs to change. The electorate have made it certain.
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[quote="Ray Palmer;112505449"]Never forget SF were very present in local councils. The councils that took payout rather than provide 10% of the housing being built. They then proceeded to not build the housing with the money they had.

Once they do get in power they will find all the reasons they can't do what they proposed due existing laws.[/quote


Interesting.. they had alot off council power.. I think they lost it... but not 100% sure
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