Facebook to start New Property Boom in North Docklands

subpar · 16-03-2017 9:24am #1

Facebook plans to almost double its workforce in Dublin after confirming it has signed a deal for an additional office building in the city.
The move means that almost 10,000 of Dublin city's industrial jobs will soon be provided by two companies - Facebook and Google.
It could also spark a new property boom in Dublin's East Wall area, where the tech giant's new facility will be located.

Facebook's Irish boss, Gareth Lambe, says its new property in Dublin's north docklands has space for 800 additional staff.
Facebook currently employs 1,600 people in its Grand Canal Square premises, but expects to fill that over the next 12 months.

"In our existing building, we have the capacity for 2,000 people.
"But we have now reached over 1,600 and we're growing so fast that it's filling up, so we've taken space for another 800 desks in a new building in East Wall with growth over the next few years in mind," he said.

Mr Lambe, who also runs sales forecasting and other strategic functions for Facebook across Europe, Africa and parts of Asia, added: "Over the next number of years, if the business and platform continue to grow, we expect to continue to grow pretty substantially in Ireland.
"It's by far our largest footprint of any country in the world outside our Silicon Valley headquarters."

Mr Lambe said the Dublin operation's success is the reason for extra investment from Facebook. "The business is growing pretty dramatically. Our last earnings showed growth of over 50pc year on year," he said.
"When you're growing users and business as fast as that, we [in Ireland] need to scale up. We've been very successful here in Ireland at delivering results for Facebook. So we continue to get investment."
Irish Independent

whiskeyman · 16-03-2017 9:29am

Any thoughts yourself instead of some copypasta?

hungry hypno toad · 16-03-2017 9:30am

Industrial jobs?

subpar · 16-03-2017 9:49am

Beckett House on East Road to receive a major fit out taking approx 9 months , with 800 Facebook employees to move into the completed office block in 2018.

Dardania · 16-03-2017 9:54am

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

Industrial jobs?

Modern day labourers...intellectual labour

subpar wrote: »

Beckett House on East Road to receive a major fit out taking approx 9 months , with 800 Facebook employees to move into the completed office block in 2018.

Looking at the map on the developer's website, it seems it's also proximate to the Docklands train station:
http://www.thecomergroup.com/development/the-beckett
So that may alleviate housing needs a bit locally for people that are willing to commute...

Atlantic Dawn · 16-03-2017 10:06am

Too much developement around the docklands is a bad idea especially with Dublin Port wanting to build a cruise ship terminal around the Point Depot and the need to expand the port to facilitate larger ships post Brexit.

OU812 · 16-03-2017 10:10am

Still a rough enough area down there. Surprising place for it as it's mostly residential. They really should start looking at high rise in clusters around the area. they could make a real iconic opening to the bay.

Wanderer78 · 16-03-2017 10:16am

Dardania wrote:

Modern day labourers...intellectual labour

Is this what call centre jobs are called now?

Dardania · 16-03-2017 10:21am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Dardania wrote:

Modern day labourers...intellectual labour

Is this what call centre jobs are called now?

should be. And like many old-industrial jobs, will probably be automated in time

Pete Moss · 16-03-2017 10:42am

All good news from what I can see. More jobs, more commitment from high profile tech firms to Dublin, more development for that area of the city....Jesus, I'm starting to sound like Enda :eek:

subpar · 16-03-2017 10:48am

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Too much developement around the docklands is a bad idea especially with Dublin Port wanting to build a cruise ship terminal around the Point Depot and the need to expand the port to facilitate larger ships post Brexit.

The Cruise Ship Terminal and berts for larger vessels is currently taking place in Alexandra Basin eastwards of the Toll Bridge and nowhere near East Road.

Gareth Lambe Head of Facebook Ireland " The new Facebook building, which won't be ready for a year, is close to Dublin's Point Depot on the northside docklands. Big tech companies are notorious for turning down northside city locations. But Lambe sees a different future for Dublin 1.

"I think us moving there is a statement for the area," he says. "We see this area as having a lot of potential, a lot like the current area [Facebook's current home in the Grand Canal basin] 10 or 15 years ago. We considered places with lower costs on the outskirts of Dublin. But because we'll be moving some people from this building to the new one, we wanted to keep disruption to a minimum."

MrMorooka · 16-03-2017 2:36pm

As someone who has actually interviewed at Facebook Dublin, they are not call center jobs and they are not the kind of the jobs that could be automated in the near future. It's also consistently rated as one of the best places to work in the country. The expansion is a good thing, nice to see it on the Northside too. People can be so negative and begrudging about things.

Gumbo · 16-03-2017 6:21pm

Great news. Bring it on.

fiachr_a · 16-03-2017 7:55pm

MrMorooka wrote: »

As someone who has actually interviewed at Facebook Dublin, they are not call center jobs and they are not the kind of the jobs that could be automated in the near future. It's also consistently rated as one of the best places to work in the country. The expansion is a good thing, nice to see it on the Northside too. People can be so negative and begrudging about things.

How many Irish-born will get these jobs?

Arcade_Tryer · 16-03-2017 8:00pm

fiachr_a wrote: »

How many Irish-born will get these jobs?

However many meet the requirements for the advertised roles one would imagine.

Love2love · 16-03-2017 8:00pm

fiachr_a wrote: »

How many Irish-born will get these jobs?

What? Seriously, what?

Ben D Bus · 16-03-2017 8:14pm

fiachr_a wrote: »

How many Irish-born will get these jobs?

Not you anyway based on your attitude.

Ben D Bus · 16-03-2017 8:14pm

This is 3 week old news by the way

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=138557559&postcount=681

Hollister11 · 16-03-2017 8:53pm

Just what we need. Fantastic news. A boost in construction and a boost in technology jobs.

L1011 · 16-03-2017 9:49pm

fiachr_a wrote: »

How many Irish-born will get these jobs?

As many as are suitable.

DontThankMe · 16-03-2017 9:51pm

The boom is back!

SEPT 23 1989 · 16-03-2017 9:52pm

Drive the unwashed into the Liffey

andekwarhola · 17-03-2017 12:45am

whiskeyman wrote: »

Any thoughts yourself instead of some copypasta?

Have you?

newacc2015 · 17-03-2017 1:45am

fiachr_a wrote: »

How many Irish-born will get these jobs?

I know everyone likes to think all these jobs tend to be minimum wage jobs being filled by Italians, Germans etc. But IT companies in Dublin pay some of the best wages in the City by miles. They give all their employees decent healthcare, pensions, shares, free meals, gym etc.

A lot of managers in these places are Irish. It pisses some people off in these roles, that the Irish tend to get the highly paid, easier jobs in these companies.

Go onto Linkedin and you will see IT companies in Dublin are often 20% UCD and TCD alone.

boobycharlton · 17-03-2017 1:55am

Most of their employees will need to be fluent in another language besides English. Not too many Irish up to that standard. Still, secondary jobs like catering, security, cleaning etc I suppose.

subpar · 17-03-2017 10:46am

whiskeyman wrote: »

Any thoughts yourself instead of some copypasta?

Firstly , Beckett House on East Road has been empty since it was built approximately 10 years ago and its great at last to see it is going to become a vibrant business centre filled by a world class company with 800 employees.

Most of the big multi national company's have been very slow to locate in the north docklands but the arrival of Facebook could be the game changer and with Yahoo and Voxpro in the Point Square and New Central Bank and N.T.M.A. offices opening up on the North Wall the pendulum is definitely swinging to the north side of the river which can only be positive for the overall area as it will inevitably lead to the opening up of support retail business such as restaurants , cafes , pharmacies etc.

The impact on property values in the area in terms of sales and rental prices will also be positive for the area, and for those living in the area the arrival of these new businesses should bring about an improved landscape with an improvement in litter levels , road surfaces , kerb side tree planting etc. I have no doubt that Facebook and all the other new businesses will be good neighbours and will lobby the local authorities to improve the level of care and attention they give to the area.

I say all this as someone who has a long term interest in the area , my great grandfather and grandfather lived in Nixon St ( Demolished and now part of the IFSC). So change is always happening and can be very positive for the North Wall / East Wall area

newacc2015 · 17-03-2017 2:07pm

boobycharlton wrote: »

Most of their employees will need to be fluent in another language besides English. Not too many Irish up to that standard. Still, secondary jobs like catering, security, cleaning etc I suppose.

The management teams tend to be Irish. A lot of the HR, Finance, accounts, sales etc are Irish. Dublin has the UK and Irish sales teams for a lot of IT companies, these are not German or Dutch speakers

fiachr_a · 17-03-2017 4:19pm

The mgmt team may be Irish but bet the majority of their workforce won't be. One of the big secrets with these multinationals based in Dublin is no-one will publish how many workers they need to import, especially for the technical roles.

Ben D Bus · 17-03-2017 4:41pm

fiachr_a wrote: »

The mgmt team may be Irish but bet the majority of their workforce won't be. One of the big secrets with these multinationals based in Dublin is no-one will publish how many workers they need to import, especially for the technical roles.

I think it's fantastic that we have so many people from all over the world living in Dublin. It makes is a much more interesting, vibrant and livable city. Which in turn attracts more employment and more people from abroad. It's wonderful. So much better than Dublin used to be when I was in college back in the 80s and starting my career in the early 90s

Or to address your issue, I don't care how many workers are "imported" for roles with these employers

average_runner · 19-03-2017 12:19pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Is this what call centre jobs are called now?

Alot of software jobs there also. Don't work for them but know a few accountants and engineers there, seems a good place

Fred_Johnson · 20-03-2017 3:39pm

This is a very rough part of the city. Close to Sheriff Street. At least in the IFSC and Docklands you can get luas or walk along the quays. Here you'd have to walk through some of the roughest estates in the country, where there is a gangland feud ongoing. I hope Facebook have really thought this through. I don't see many of their employees being advised to rent locally.

What this shows is the ridiculous shortage of premium office space in the main CBD's, forcing Facebook to resort to this option. There's a reason it's been lying idle for 10 years while all other office space was taken up.

blue_blue · 20-03-2017 10:09pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

This is a very rough part of the city. Close to Sheriff Street. At least in the IFSC and Docklands you can get luas or walk along the quays. Here you'd have to walk through some of the roughest estates in the country, where there is a gangland feud ongoing. I hope Facebook have really thought this through. I don't see many of their employees being advised to rent locally.

What this shows is the ridiculous shortage of premium office space in the main CBD's, forcing Facebook to resort to this option. There's a reason it's been lying idle for 10 years while all other office space was taken up.

That's a bit of an exaggeration I think. The rough part of Sheriff St where you daren't not walk is the Lower part which is cordoned off by Seville Place/Connolly Station. There's far more existing businesses closer to Sheriff Street since the IFSC began. Going to the new FB office, that would be nowhere along your route.

L1011 · 20-03-2017 10:18pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

This is a very rough part of the city.

Its not. I suspect you haven't been there any time within the last 15 years.

subpar · 21-03-2017 9:43am

L1011 wrote: »

Its not. I suspect you haven't been there any time within the last 15 years.

Fully agree with you.

Fred_Johnson · 21-03-2017 10:22am

L1011 wrote: »

Its not. I suspect you haven't been there any time within the last 15 years.

I live so close to it i can see it. I can also hear and see them burning tires.

You're telling me the area close to Sheriff Street and East Wall is not a dangerous part of the city? Is that an alternative fact?

alastair · 21-03-2017 12:21pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

I live so close to it i can see it. I can also hear and see them burning tires.

You're telling me the area close to Sheriff Street and East Wall is not a dangerous part of the city? Is that an alternative fact?

Pretty much.

Aside from seeing kids burning tires the odd time, and the existence of an internal feud in the criminal fraternity, what exactly are the dangers posed to the Facebook employees? You can walk up and down Seville Place and East Wall road an awful amount, without any joy, if you're hoping to encounter a dangerous situation. One of those instances where that awful term snowflake applies imo.

Fred_Johnson · 21-03-2017 12:54pm

alastair wrote: »

Pretty much.

Aside from seeing kids burning tires the odd time, and the existence of an internal feud in the criminal fraternity,

ahahaha...yeah, only that? I'm sure the 65% unemployment rate in the area results in a delightful bunch of people.

One of those instances where that awful term snowflake applies imo.

Let's see you walk sheriff street and the surrounding streets late at night on a regular basis. Somehow i imagine you walking rather briskly if you came across a few locals burning tires.

subpar · 21-03-2017 1:04pm

Give the area a break , there are a lot of decent people who live and work in the area and the influx of major premium companies into the area is a massive vote of confidence for the North Docklands.

The fact is that Dublin overall is a more dangerous and violent place and you need to be on your guard walking everywhere at night , bad things can happen in parts of the west and south sides as well.

L1011 · 21-03-2017 2:00pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

I live so close to it i can see it. I can also hear and see them burning tires.

You're telling me the area close to Sheriff Street and East Wall is not a dangerous part of the city? Is that an alternative fact?

I work on Sheriff Street at the moment - the bad bit (Noctors end), nowhere near where these offices are going. Worked in East Wall for 3 years previously. 3.5 years and I haven't seen a single tyre being burned.

You are making stuff up, pure and simple.

Facebook are going on to East Road, which is perfectly safe.

Ben D Bus · 21-03-2017 2:32pm

I've worked almost adjacent to, and walked by, Noctors pretty much every working day for the last 25 years and I'm still alive (although the job is destroying my soul

) Never had any bother. The area is a pretty grotty though until you get to Mayor St. Even then it's a bit like a suburban office park.

Kids on bikes trying to look tough is the biggest issue I have. And a kid threw a water balloon at me one hot summer day from the 5-a-side pitch on Commons St. He missed

Fred_Johnson · 21-03-2017 2:38pm

L1011 wrote: »

I work on Sheriff Street at the moment - the bad bit (Noctors end), nowhere near where these offices are going. Worked in East Wall for 3 years previously. 3.5 years and I haven't seen a single tyre being burned.

You are making stuff up, pure and simple.

Facebook are going on to East Road, which is perfectly safe.

How can you have a bad "bit" of a street? It's takes a minute or two to walk up Sheriff Street.

People who work on sheriff street do not have some special insight. You probably disappear home at 6pm every day. I see it at night. I see them burning couches by the canal, bonfires, speeding up and down Sheriff street at 4am. Now, are you seriously saying with a straight face that this is an appropriate place for a young Facebook employee to be living or working in? I hope it doesn't put Facebook off further investment in Ireland.

Ben D Bus · 21-03-2017 2:52pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

How can you have a bad "bit" of a street? It's takes a minute or two to walk up Sheriff Street.

20 minutes according to Google maps from East Wall Rd to Amiens St.

https://goo.gl/maps/udqNiVgBJQ12

And incidentally, it takes 8 minutes to walk the length of East Rd to Sheriff St, probably 6 or 7 from FB's front door

whatnext · 21-03-2017 2:53pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

How can you have a bad "bit" of a street? It's takes a minute or two to walk up Sheriff Street.

People who work on sheriff street do not have some special insight. You probably disappear home at 6pm every day. I see it at night. I see them burning couches by the canal, bonfires, speeding up and down Sheriff street at 4am. Now, are you seriously saying with a straight face that this is an appropriate place for a young Facebook employee to be living or working in? I hope it doesn't put Facebook off further investment in Ireland.

I'll wager a tenner you couldn't run it in twice that :-)

From lower to upper end to end is a mile

Arcade_Tryer · 21-03-2017 3:08pm

L1011 wrote: »

I work on Sheriff Street at the moment - the bad bit (Noctors end)

That place will be a coffee house within a decade!

Fred_Johnson · 21-03-2017 3:14pm

Wan't there someone shot on Sheriff Street last year in a case of mistaken identity?

I mean lads come on, let's deal with reality.

L1011 · 21-03-2017 3:15pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

It's takes a minute or two to walk up Sheriff Street.

You are just making this up now.

Sheriff Street is 1.6km in length. You aren't walking that in a minute or two, even if you are actually Rob Heffernan.

The canal is nowhere near the Facebook building, by the way - as you clearly don't know where anything is there.

L1011 · 21-03-2017 3:17pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

Wan't there someone shot on Sheriff Street last year in a case of mistaken identity?

I mean lads come on, let's deal with reality.

1km as the crow flies from the new Facebook building.

About 20% further away from the incident than their existing one.

Just drop it, please. You don't know what you're talking about.

21-03-2017 3:21pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

. Now, are you seriously saying with a straight face that this is an appropriate place for a young Facebook employee to be living or working in? I hope it doesn't put Facebook off further investment in Ireland.

Firstly, are young Facebook employees so much more sensitive to the rest of the population?
And, secondly, maybe some of those young Facebook employees could be actually from the area?

21-03-2017 3:22pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

Wan't there someone shot on Sheriff Street last year in a case of mistaken identity?

I mean lads come on, let's deal with reality.

People can and do get shot in a lot of places

Fred_Johnson · 21-03-2017 3:34pm

L1011 wrote: »

Just drop it, please. You don't know what you're talking about.

I know a lot more than anyone else on this topic because i live in the vicinity, so why don't you drop it.

L1011 · 21-03-2017 3:36pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

I know a lot more than anyone else on this topic because i live in the vicinity, so why don't you drop it.

You've just shown quite categorically that you don't know where Sheriff Street is, and where the new Facebook offices are.

If you live in the vicinity, you don't know the area at all. You are making utterly baseless claims that at best (when stripping the clear exaggeration) relate to the "bad end" of Sheriff Street and Seville Place - a very considerable distance from the new Facebook offices.

Facebook to start New Property Boom in North Docklands

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