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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Many of the usual wokies will look at this and not realize just how ironic and openly wacist it is. It is also unsympathetic towards people who are color blind.

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    jnkbj


    haha


    https://twitter.com/masked_bastard/status/1361996955061268481


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    keano_afc wrote: »


    This is the sort of nonsense that used to appear as a spoof on April Fool's Day - however, the simple answer is to boycott Hasbro products and let them know why.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    This is the sort of nonsense that used to appear as a spoof on April Fool's Day - however, the simple answer is to boycott Hasbro products and let them know why.

    One assumes Ms. Pacman is about to be no more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,992 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    But do I not remember there being a Mrs Potato Head too?

    So there was a male and female potato head, so whats the issue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,170 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    how is a gentlemen or indeed a lady meant to accurately crank one out watching cartoons if one cannot tell who is male or female?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Mr Proper and Mr Sheen will be next in line for this makeover, mark my words.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭ingalway


    NIMAN wrote: »
    But do I not remember there being a Mrs Potato Head too?

    So there was a male and female potato head, so whats the issue?
    How do any of us know they were both not assigned the wrong potato head at birth? And what about the non-binary potato's?

    Your potato bigotry is really showing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    ingalway wrote: »
    How do any of us know they were both not assigned the wrong potato head at birth? And what about the non-binary potato's?

    Your potato bigotry is really showing.

    Its driving a wedge between ye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,170 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Mr Proper and Mr Sheen will be next in line for this makeover, mark my words.

    Yeah only women use them so ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭ingalway


    keano_afc wrote: »
    Its driving a wedge between ye.
    To be honest I think he has a chip on his shoulder.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,904 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    keano_afc wrote: »

    Honestly, what is the point in that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Isn't decadence, moral vacuum and truth/fact/evidence denial considered the final stage of civilisation before collapse?

    Is there anyone who can genuinely argue today that we are not in that phase or at least entering it?

    None of what you see happening today has benefit to humanity down the road.

    Things will just keep getting more and more warped.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Isn't decadence, moral vacuum and truth/fact/evidence denial considered the final stage of civilisation before collapse?

    Is there anyone who can genuinely argue today that we are not in that phase or at least entering it?

    None of what you see happening today has benefit to humanity down the road.

    Things will just keep getting more and more warped.

    Well.. if you look at BLM or many other social justice movements, they talk about burning down the system, or instigating chaos, with the 'belief' that they can build something better from the ashes.

    Alas, they haven't had much success at doing so from a position of poverty, so I'm somewhat skeptical that they'd be able to do so from the ashes.. and chaos of a fallen system. I suspect most of the people who talk about chaos, anarchy, etc are still expecting that there will be someone out there to clean up their mess when they've stopped burning buildings, and lynched their opponents.

    Personally, I think we've simply entered the time of the muppet. Thinks themselves smart, but really they're thick as a plank, and not near as useful. There's little emphasis anymore on understanding cause and effect, or accepting responsibility.. so, yeah, we'll be seeing a lot more senseless destruction both on a physical level, but also, in regards to social stability.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,508 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Isn't decadence, moral vacuum and truth/fact/evidence denial considered the final stage of civilisation before collapse?

    Is there anyone who can genuinely argue today that we are not in that phase or at least entering it?

    None of what you see happening today has benefit to humanity down the road.

    Things will just keep getting more and more warped.

    First they came for my Mr Potato Head, and I said nothing...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,403 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    keano_afc wrote: »

    Oh what the actual fcuk...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Rothko wrote: »
    Honestly, what is the point in that?

    Very simple. To sell more potato heads. They know the usual suspects will be upset by it, probably have a slot on Tucker. Tonnes of free advertising. It's trending all over twitter. More potato heads will be sold. The usual boomers that weren't going to buy it anyway will pretend they're going to boycott it. But sales will go up.


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Very simple. To sell more potato heads. They know the usual suspects will be upset by it, probably have a slot on Tucker. Tonnes of free advertising. It's trending all over twitter. More potato heads will be sold. The usual boomers that weren't going to buy it anyway will pretend they're going to boycott it. But sales will go up.

    Go woke go rich? Let’s see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭RandRuns


    Cienciano wrote: »
    The usual boomers that weren't going to buy it anyway will pretend they're going to boycott it. But sales will go up.

    That's exactly what Gillette thought.
    But guess what - obese loners, unemployed professional protesters, and kept college kids don't buy a lot of anything.


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  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fake news.

    Hasbro (@Hasbro) Tweeted:
    Hold that Tot – your main spud, MR. POTATO HEAD isn’t going anywhere! While it was announced today that the POTATO HEAD brand name & logo are dropping the ‘MR.’ I yam proud to confirm that MR. & MRS. POTATO HEAD aren’t going anywhere and will remain MR. & MRS. POTATO HEAD https://t.co/6I84KrxOLQ


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Good marketing there. Pretend that potato head is changing his gender. He’s not really. Trend on Twitter. Announce it’s not really happening.

    Winning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    So it was an early April Fools joke so.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Biafranlivemat


    California bill would require gender neutral sections in department stores.
    https://michaelsavage.com/california-to-pass-bill-recognizing-all-products-as-gender-neutral/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    So it was an early April Fools joke so.


    Or did somebody note the reaction to the proposal and pull the stupid idea - more likely from where I'm sitting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Many of the usual wokies will look at this and not realize just how ironic and openly wacist it is. It is also unsympathetic towards people who are color blind.

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    jnkbj


    haha


    https://twitter.com/masked_bastard/status/1361996955061268481

    Why do Asians rarely matter in these? Always a black and white child, rarely an asian


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Or did somebody note the reaction to the proposal and pull the stupid idea - more likely from where I'm sitting.

    The cynic in me immediately reached the same conclusion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    It's almost like it's being misreported to rev people up online.

    https://twitter.com/Hasbro/status/1365038178814590995?s=20


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Why do Asians rarely matter in these? Always a black and white child, rarely an asian
    Isn't is obvious?
    They just go about their lives ..... working, paying taxes, putting their children through college, and generally not involved in criminality.
    And they do not throw their toys out of the pram screaming and roaring when they underperform in various challenges in life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,125 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Why do Asians rarely matter in these? Always a black and white child, rarely an asian

    The Left are starting to view Asians as problematic, they don't fit the narrative, same is happening with Jews and even with African immigrants in America.

    It's no coincidence that all 3 groups are the top performers in American society.


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    Kivaro wrote: »
    Isn't is obvious?
    They just go about their lives ..... working, paying taxes, putting their children through college, and generally not involved in criminality.
    And they do not throw their toys out of the pram screaming and roaring when they underperform in various challenges in life.

    It's also to do with economics... Asia is becoming rather successful economically. China, Japan, Korea, Thailand, especially Vietnam, are all attractive destinations for work, and having an Asian language is more useful there. So, far more Asians are choosing to immigrate to other Asian countries, than coming to the West. Oh, sure, many still do come here, but we're going to continue seeing a decline in those numbers, as Asian economies grow further.

    Whereas for Africans/Black people, Asia is rather... racist towards them, so options are limited, whereas in the West, they're a disadvantaged group, and so gain supports that wouldn't be available elsewhere.

    I'd say that in the future, we're likely to see more Black people in the West than Asians.. especially, if they continue to receive so much attention due to their race (diversity quotas, racial supports, etc)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,170 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    California bill would require gender neutral sections in department stores.
    https://michaelsavage.com/california-to-pass-bill-recognizing-all-products-as-gender-neutral/

    no need for a bill but it's not unusual to have a gender neutral zone as it is a distinct style


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Go woke go rich? Let’s see.

    Go woke, go broke. That's fine. But cancel culture is bad. Strange world we live in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,724 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Danzy wrote: »
    The Left are starting to view Asians as problematic, they don't fit the narrative, same is happening with Jews and even with African immigrants in America.

    It's no coincidence that all 3 groups are the top performers in American society.

    Yes.

    Here is a statement from a Chinese-American group against CRT.

    https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1364634988319154178


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭RandRuns


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Go woke, go broke. That's fine. But cancel culture is bad. Strange world we live in.

    Go woke go broke is companies turning customers off buying from them.
    Cancel culture is people losing their jobs and their voice because they express an opinion.

    Surely even the most blinkered believer in wokeism can't believe these two things are equivalent?


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's almost like it's being misreported to rev people up online.

    https://twitter.com/Hasbro/status/1365038178814590995?s=20
    Instead of dropping MR & MRS in one step, they're now going to do it in two steps, give it a few months and the small mr & mrs will disappear from the box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    RandRuns wrote: »
    That's exactly what Gillette thought.
    But guess what - obese loners, unemployed professional protesters, and kept college kids don't buy a lot of anything.

    For every Gillette there's a netflix, Google, Microsoft, nike that have the same "woke" shít and are successful. And quit the opposite, companies are targeting college kids more than boomers. 18-35 is the target group for most advertising as it's seen as more lucrative.

    I mean, you say "obese" people don't buy a lot of anything is clearly not true :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭RandRuns


    Cienciano wrote: »
    For every Gillette there's a netflix, Google, Microsoft, nike that have the same "woke" shít and are successful. And quit the opposite, companies are targeting college kids more than boomers. 18-35 is the target group for most advertising as it's seen as more lucrative.

    I mean, you say "obese" people don't buy a lot of anything is clearly not true :pac:

    True, there are some companies that seem to make plenty off the back of being woke (Ben & Jerrys is another one), but I think the audience is critical - Gillette got hammered because they basically told their core buyers that they were bad people. Netflix can spout all the woke rubbish they want, because it doesn't affect their customers - Homeland and Ozark are still the same shows, whether Netflix pretends to be woke or not. Nike pitched their wokeness well- they basically persuaded their gullible customers (who buy rubbish shoes made by child slaves for 50 or 100 times their worth) that everybody else was bad, but they were good.
    Targeting college kids is only a worthwhile exercise if they will buy from you - college kids won't buy Gillette, no matter how woke - the small percentage of them that shave buy cheaper brands. Netflix and Nike are prime targets for the college dollar.

    Obese loners I said, not ordinary obese people ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    RandRuns wrote: »
    Go woke go broke is companies turning customers off buying from them.
    Cancel culture is people losing their jobs and their voice because they express an opinion.

    Surely even the most blinkered believer in wokeism can't believe these two things are equivalent?

    Colin kaepernick was a victim on cancer culture from the right


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    Cienciano wrote: »
    For every Gillette there's a netflix, Google, Microsoft, nike that have the same "woke" shít and are successful. And quit the opposite, companies are targeting college kids more than boomers. 18-35 is the target group for most advertising as it's seen as more lucrative.

    I mean, you say "obese" people don't buy a lot of anything is clearly not true :pac:

    All the companies you mention are doing a balancing act with their wokeness.. and it's still early days on the backlash against woke agendas. There's momentum building on consumers not having patience with these agenda driven companies.. and the whole go-woke go-broke was more to do with bad strategy or shoddy productions, than an actual reaction from consumers. For now.

    However, the "anti"-woke sentiment is growing rather fast online, which will feed gradually into other areas. I'd expect to continue see companies show their wokeness for another year or two, before there's enough resistance to make them pause in consideration.. but that day is coming. Thankfully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭RandRuns


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Colin kaepernick was a victim on cancer culture from the right

    Poor Colin got cancelled because he was an utterly shíte quarterback who hoped to get rich by raising his profile for his shenanigans when he realised he was going to get canned. Look up his stats - he just isn't good enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    However, the "anti"-woke sentiment is growing rather fast online, which will feed gradually into other areas.

    I'm curious, on what basis do you make that statement?

    (I don't really care either way woke/anti woke btw, more so how you would be able to determine that)


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    km991148 wrote: »
    I'm curious, on what basis do you make that statement?

    (I don't really care either way woke/anti woke btw, more so how you would be able to determine that)

    The number of channels on Youtube, Odysee, etc I've seen, which have reasonably large (300k-400k) subscription bases. I know about 6 different channels each with sizable subscriber or membership bases, and they're pretty dedicated to pointing out or taking the piss out of the woke stuff. Then, there's a host of smaller channels I've encountered doing similar.

    I'd also point to the number of websites showing statistics or highlighting the problems with feminism, the bias about domestic abuse, etc. A few years ago, there was simply nothing out there.. now, there's a growing number all pointing out the problems, and seeking to represent the issues affecting men.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    The number of channels on Youtube, Odysee, etc I've seen, which have reasonably large (300k-400k) subscription bases. I know about 6 different channels each with sizable subscriber or membership bases, and they're pretty dedicated to pointing out or taking the piss out of the woke stuff. Then, there's a host of smaller channels I've encountered doing similar.

    I'd also point to the number of websites showing statistics or highlighting the problems with feminism, the bias about domestic abuse, etc. A few years ago, there was simply nothing out there.. now, there's a growing number all pointing out the problems, and seeking to represent the issues affecting men.

    Yeah, you need to be a little careful here. The more you watch, the more you are served up (on any given topic). It's really hard to spot a trend from within the bubble.

    I'm asking as I'm more curious about different trends and how different viewpoints gain traction (i.e. I don't really care about the woke Vs anti woke brigade in of themselves).

    It's hard to work out what actually is going on and how good or bad things are, especially even you consider there is a whole industry invested in serving up controversy (you mention it yourself in terms of subscriber numbers.. that generates a lot of revenue..)


    But anyway, different topic for a different thread I guess..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    RandRuns wrote: »
    Poor Colin got cancelled because he was an utterly shíte quarterback who hoped to get rich by raising his profile for his shenanigans when he realised he was going to get canned. Look up his stats - he just isn't good enough.
    Ah, so the Dixie Chicks would be an example then.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭RandRuns


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Ah, so the Dixie Chicks would be an example then.

    I'm confused, what exactly are you trying to prove here?

    I know nothing about the dixie chicks other than there some band I've heard of, and have no idea how they relate to Gillette, but if they were a victim of cancel culture, why are you telling me about them, I'm totally opposed to cancel culture?

    You seem to have lost your point somewhere along the line, from cheering on woke culture to getting upset over some band, and somehow thinking I care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Go woke, go broke. That's fine. But cancel culture is bad. Strange world we live in.

    Please tell me you can see the difference between these two things?


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    km991148 wrote: »
    Yeah, you need to be a little careful here. The more you watch, the more you are served up (on any given topic). It's really hard to spot a trend from within the bubble.

    I'm not in any kind of bubble. I don't have any social media accounts, beyond my website surfing.. and TBF most of those involved are not-foaming-at-the-mouth agitators, but people seeking to present things in a balanced manner.. since they know how easy it is to be dismissed as 'right wing' or whatever.
    I'm asking as I'm more curious about different trends and how different viewpoints gain traction (i.e. I don't really care about the woke Vs anti woke brigade in of themselves).

    You can tailor news and website streams to bring you that kind of info... there's a variety of software out there.
    It's hard to work out what actually is going on and how good or bad things are, especially even you consider there is a whole industry invested in serving up controversy (you mention it yourself in terms of subscriber numbers.. that generates a lot of revenue..)

    But anyway, different topic for a different thread I guess..

    Generally you'll find that the more balanced people admit where they're getting their funding from. Subscriber bases don't produce that much anymore, with most funds coming from advertising.

    And.. no.. it's not really that hard to figure out what's going on. You just have to do the research to get the software, the lists of streams, and then organise yourself. I did so... about three years ago, when I started working with some Male Rights workshops, and many of those who were involved in that, have moved into other areas.. Then, there's also word of mouth and networking, so you can gain access to a lot of information that isn't necessarily so public.

    The issue is more to do with how people don't want to put in the work to find information. Instead, expecting it to land in their laps at the height of convenience...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    Cool! Glad you are on it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad




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