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05-01-2018, 23:29   #16
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If Uber want to compete with Taxi, it has to be fair, do Uber drivers have the same level of public liability insurance as Taxi's

Not paid cash for a taxi in a few years, many/most take cards now.
Yes they have full public liability insurance, and I'd have no problem with a law saying all Uber-style operators must have insurance for their trips.

I take taxis almost daily, this is not my experience at all! Even if you do find one they will complain and moan if you ask to pay by card. Also what comfort do I have if I hail a cab on the street that it will have a card machine?

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no, just a level playing field in terms of licensing, insurance and oversight.
So you'd be fine with an Uber London-style arrangement? Uber in london are licensed, insured, and under supervision.


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no, no we don't. taxis already have competition in the form of other taxis. uber is a taxi service and is able to be subject to the same regulations, and should have those regulations imposed on it as it's a taxi service.
Yeah, that's not competition and if you don't know that there's little hope left.
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Yes they have full public liability insurance, and I'd have no problem with a law saying all Uber-style operators must have insurance for their trips.

I take taxis almost daily, this is not my experience at all! Even if you do find one they will complain and moan if you ask to pay by card. Also what comfort do I have if I hail a cab on the street that it will have a card machine?



So you'd be fine with an Uber London-style arrangement? Uber in london are licensed, insured, and under supervision.




Yeah, that's not competition and if you don't know that there's little hope left.
yes, it is competition. taxis compete with other taxis, ubber is a taxi service, ergo competition
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What do people think is unfair or unsuitable about current Irish taxi regulation that they want Uber to bypass it?
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Yes they have full public liability insurance, and I'd have no problem with a law saying all Uber-style operators must have insurance for their trips.
But they are not insured to carry fare paying passengers. No insurance company operating in the Irish market will issue a PSV policy on a car or to a driver that has not got a PSV. There is no way around this no matter what way Uber will try to word it.
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So you'd be fine with an Uber London-style arrangement? Uber in london are licensed, insured, and under supervision.
yes, as long as the income earned is also being recorded and taxed correctly.
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But they are not insured to carry fare paying passengers. No insurance company operating in the Irish market will issue a PSV policy on a car or to a driver that has not got a PSV. There is no way around this no matter what way Uber will try to word it.
Uber insure the trips. You are spreading a myth. Even if they didn't I'd have no problem with a law requiring them to insure the trip.
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Ah Uber the great race to the bottom for wages, Uber they company that wants to drive everyone else out of the business and then hike prices once it had the monopoly.

This is the future folks I'm sure everyone wants an Uberesque company moving into their job sector forcing form wages and pushing automation.

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Uber insure the trips. You are spreading a myth. Even if they didn't I'd have no problem with a law requiring them to insure the trip.
so how are you covered for the rest of the time?, not working etc because your insurance policy won't cover you full stop if you are at any point using the vehicle for reward...
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so how are you covered for the rest of the time?, not working etc because your insurance policy won't cover you full stop if you are at any point using the vehicle for reward...
Well then they're breaking the law. No one is arguing for no insurance. Have a law which requires proper insurance. I don't see the problem
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What do people think is unfair or unsuitable about current Irish taxi regulation that they want Uber to bypass it?
I think it's pretty poor that taxis here haven't been mandated to accept electronic payment yet as they have been in London.
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I think it's pretty poor that taxis here haven't been mandated to accept electronic payment yet as they have been in London.
It's an even poorer reflection on taxi drivers that they would have to be mandated to accept electronic payments.

Self employed business people turning away customers because they can't facilitate their method of payment..

You can get a sum up card reader for €39 and taxi drivers are even allowed pass on the transaction fee up to a maximum of 5% of the fare.

That being said there are plenty of options to ensure you get a taxi that can accept card payments with all the apps these days. I use mytaxi coming home from work every night for that very reason.
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What do people think is unfair or unsuitable about current Irish taxi regulation that they want Uber to bypass it?
The 6,300 euro fee for the 'privilege' of operating a taxi?
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so how are you covered for the rest of the time?, not working etc because your insurance policy won't cover you full stop if you are at any point using the vehicle for reward...
This was dealt with already in another thread which you ignored. Uber in the UK insure the vehicle and passengers. The same in Australia. In fact it appears to be the case generally. In the US, it is different but there are specific insurance policies available which one can purchase to add ride-sharing capabilities to your own personal policy as just one example.
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Ah Uber the great race to the bottom for wages, Uber they company that wants to drive everyone else out of the business and then hike prices once it had the monopoly.

This is the future folks I'm sure everyone wants an Uberesque company moving into their job sector forcing form wages and pushing automation.

Superb
Even though companies like Lyft who are doing better in the US than Uber would just come in and keep prices down? Yes, scaremongering is strong in this one.

Peer to peer economy is here to stay, good luck putting that genie back in the bottle. Maybe we should go back to basket weaving?
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As an aside, if people think that regular taxis are safer than ride-sharing.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...boys-1.3347256

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Last night Britain’s Crown Prosecution Service revealed that while it had prosecuted Worboys for attacks on 14 women, it had dropped cases involving three other women, even though it assessed they “passed the evidential test”, because there were sufficient counts “to enable the judge to impose an appropriate sentence”.

After he was jailed in 2009, police also told prosecutors about another 19 alleged victims, but the CPS advised that it would be in the public interest only to prosecute allegations of rape.
Some sources suggest his list of victims could be as high as 102.

Think Ireland is different?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-30216696.html

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It's believed that 6,000 taxi drivers have a criminal conviction. The legislation will attempt to remove murderers, rapists and former IRA members from the industry.
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