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12-03-2019, 17:23   #16
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Very rough idea of the route, it’s no wonder art was never my strong suit
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12-03-2019, 18:34   #17
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The skeleton of NCD services exist in Local Link and will likely be beefed up when they announce the replacement for the Rolestown DB route

It'll be tendered out and very unlikely to have DB bid

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12-03-2019, 18:52   #18
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Dun Laoghaire to Sandyford Ind. Estate every hour as it would negate the need for 75a departures via Sandyford Ind. Estate which is a ridiculous connection and adds significant time to the 75. A proposed routing would be Dun Laoghaire, York Road, Mountown Road Upper past CBC, Monkstown Avenue, Stradbrook, Rowanbryn, Newtownpark Avenue, Leopardstown Road and terminating in Sandyford Industrial Estate either at the 11 terminus or the Luas stop.

Run every hour off peak and every 30 mins during the peak. It would provide an all day link from DL to Sandyford and would add an all day local service to other areas which do not have them. I wouldn't say it would have huge demand but maybe enough to run using GAI single deckers.
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Are they all? What about single decker coach style busses? Even still, at times that speed isn't possible on the M50. It's a route that would serve lots of orbital journeys
Yes, to cater to standing passengers and they've no seat belts.

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You don't need to go end to end but it would be good to have a service that will bring you between outer points of dublin to another outer point without have to go through the city centre. e.g. Tallaght to Sandyford or Blanch to the Airport/Swords.
I'd support it alright. Although to critique it.

Most of that suggestion is covered by 75 and 76(a). It may be better to consider multiple routes that link in with each other instead of having 1 major route wrap around the city.

I cant remember the route that goes through Finglas from blanch shopping centre? I'd certainly think there should be consideration to planning those 3 routes so passengers can transfer between them promptly.

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Not just Dublin Bus but no buses from Finglas to the airport, disgraceful. I have to get to Drumcondra, no buses if early flight.
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13-03-2019, 13:43   #21
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Not just Dublin Bus but no buses from Finglas to the airport, disgraceful. I have to get to Drumcondra, no buses if early flight.
Not just finglas, most of the Northside of Dublin are without buses to the Airport.

We need an orbital route that has multipurpose and includes the purpose of serving the Airport hence my suggestion in post 2.

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Not a route creation, but a bus route extension.

The #16 ends in Ballinteer. Why not move the terminus to Dundrum? Increases use of bus, links Rathfarnham to Luas etc. A friend suggested this a few years ago but it was rejected for reasons unknown - probably because it was too practical.
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truncate the 84 so it just runs to Cherrywood and increase the frequency accordingly (this was proposed previously but political interference kiboshed it). It provides a link from North Wicklow to Dundrum and other locations along the Green Line, but at one bus an hour connections off the Luas are very tricky.

It's bizarre IMO that BusConnects doesn't include such a link - the proposed 201 and 202 routes both terminate at Bray and the A spine from Bray doesn't connect to the LUAS. The long term plan is to extend the Luas to Bray - if this is such a good idea why not put a bus route in place for now?
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Not a route creation, but a bus route extension.

The #16 ends in Ballinteer. Why not move the terminus to Dundrum? Increases use of bus, links Rathfarnham to Luas etc. A friend suggested this a few years ago but it was rejected for reasons unknown - probably because it was too practical.
Extending the 16 to Dundrum while it sounds like a good idea it simply would not work. For starters Dundrum is a complete nightmare traffic wise and it would add on significant journey time to an already long and traffic prone route. Also the bus terminus in Dundrum at the Luas stop is already a tight squeeze with the Dublin 14, 44b, 161 and Dublin Coach terminating there and the 44, 75/a and 175 passing through there. Adding extra buses would un-workable.
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16 to Sandyford would be an easy and useful extension.
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Make the 84 terminate at Cherrywood scrap the service to Blackrock as it's pretty much two routes in one at present one to serve the schools around Blackrock similar to the old 45 and the other to connect the Luas with Bray, Greystones, Kilcoole and Newcastle and each other.

To replace the service to serve the schools around Blackrock run every second 4 as the 4a to Bride's Glen via Deansgrange, Clonkeen Road, N11 and run on the new road that's being built from the N11 just south of Cabinteely to Cherrywood putting a bus lane on this road. It would make sense to increase the services to Cherrywood with all the development being done there at the moment.
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Extending the 16 to Dundrum while it sounds like a good idea it simply would not work. For starters Dundrum is a complete nightmare traffic wise and it would add on significant journey time to an already long and traffic prone route. Also the bus terminus in Dundrum at the Luas stop is already a tight squeeze with the Dublin 14, 44b, 161 and Dublin Coach terminating there and the 44, 75/a and 175 passing through there. Adding extra buses would un-workable.
The 16A was to have been extended to Dundrum as well but Network Direct saw it being culled.
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The 16A was to have been extended to Dundrum as well but Network Direct saw it being culled.
The 16a perhaps would've been more suitable for an extension than the 16 from Ballinteer as it wouldn't be far from Nutgrove to Dundrum and there is a stretch of bus lane on both Churchtown Road and Nutgrove Road albeit in one direction but coming in from Ballinteer it would have to battle it's way past Dundrum SC at present most Ballinteer to Dundrum journies would already be covered by the 14, 75 and 175.

I think the Sandyford proposal is a better one than Dundrum as you could run it along the M50 slip road even turn one of the lanes on either side to become a bus lane.

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Would Killiney Hill Road past the Druid's Chair be able to take buses as I was thinking it would be good if they could extend the 59 past the Druid's Chair up towards Miltary Road and Ballybrack Village and from there you could continue the service up to Bride's Glen. I know they would be very tight roads for buses so it would probably be a bit of a push and something that is unlikely to happen but it would make the 59 a more useful bus for people other than OAPs.

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You want a vehicle limited to 65kmh to do that?
the 33x travels along the M1/50 from M1j4 to M50J1 @65kmh and its faster than the train

I'd make a bus route to connect the red and green tram lines Dundrum to Kylemore
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