Genotyping question

The man in red and black · 19-04-2019 5:46pm #1

Hi all,

Quick question. How fast is the turnaround time on genotyping? My brother has a bull he wants to sell. Buyer needs him genotyped for BDGP before end of June. Could it be done by then? Will ICBF let you send hair sample in so as not to have to wait for the tissue tag to be made and sent out? Tried contacting them but they are closed for Good Friday.

Thanks in advance.

patsy_mccabe · 19-04-2019 6:14pm

I'm in the BDGP and before ICBF had alredy sent me tags, when I wanted to switch animals for genotyping. I rang them and they said no problem. They sent me out a hair kit and told me to just dump the tag for the other animal.

As for timing, the proofs come out every 2 months. Dates of publication and last date receipt of samples are here;
https://www.icbf.com/wp/?page_id=11285

For example, proofs due out 22nd July 2019. Samples need to be in by 8th May 2019.

The man in red and black · 19-04-2019 8:03pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

As for timing, the proofs come out every 2 months. Dates of publication and last date receipt of samples are here;
https://www.icbf.com/wp/?page_id=11285

For example, proofs due out 21st May 2019. Samples need to be in by 8th May 2019.

Thanks a million Patsy. So if I get sample in ASAP the bull should hopefully have a genotype rating by 8th May? Ideal. Thanks again.

patsy_mccabe · 19-04-2019 8:11pm

The man in red and black wrote: »

Thanks a million Patsy. So if I get sample in ASAP the bull should hopefully have a genotype rating by 8th May? Ideal. Thanks again.

No No. Sorry read it wrong. Sample has to be in by 8th May. You won't have it published till 22nd July 2019.

(I corrected it above.)

tanko · 19-04-2019 8:15pm

The man in red and black wrote: »

Thanks a million Patsy. So if I get sample in ASAP the bull should hopefully have a genotype rating by 8th May? Ideal. Thanks again.

Going by that link above, if you send in the sample by May 8th you'll have the genotype rating on July 22nd.

whelan2 · 19-04-2019 8:25pm

I was told by icbf 6 weeks minimum. We sent a sample in in February and still havent got the results. That was hair sample is it makes any difference

ABitofsense · 14-04-2020 11:03am

Maybe someone knows the answer. Im looking at the BEEP scheme and I have 4 heifers that calved this year that don't qualify as they have
no Sires listed (brought in as calves from dairy herd) so wouldn't meet the requirements for the scheme. One is a FR/LMX cross that has a lovely heifer calve so ill be keeping her as a replacement but want to cover any future schemes. So if i got DNA/Genotyping testing done on them would that give me the information for their Sires and then make them qualify for the BEEP?

Lady Haywire · 14-04-2020 11:19am

ABitofsense wrote: »

Maybe someone knows the answer. Im looking at the BEEP scheme and I have 4 heifers that calved this year that don't qualify as they have
no Sires listed (brought in as calves from dairy herd) so wouldn't meet the requirements for the scheme. One is a FR/LMX cross that has a lovely heifer calve so ill be keeping her as a replacement but want to cover any future schemes. So if i got DNA/Genotyping testing done on them would that give me the information for their Sires and then make them qualify for the BEEP?

Should do, unless the bull they're off isn't sampled himself.

tanko · 14-04-2020 11:24am

ABitofsense wrote: »

Maybe someone knows the answer. Im looking at the BEEP scheme and I have 4 heifers that calved this year that don't qualify as they have
no Sires listed (brought in as calves from dairy herd) so wouldn't meet the requirements for the scheme. One is a FR/LMX cross that has a lovely heifer calve so ill be keeping her as a replacement but want to cover any future schemes. So if i got DNA/Genotyping testing done on them would that give me the information for their Sires and then make them qualify for the BEEP?

Genotyping will only give the information for their sires if the sires themselves have been genotyped and are on the ICBF system. If the sire is an Ai bull it should be there but if it's a stockbull it mightn't and will give sire unknown.

Can you get the Sires off the farmer you bought the calves off and input that (if he knows it).

ABitofsense · 14-04-2020 11:33am

tanko wrote: »

Can you get the Sires off the farmer you bought the calves off and input that (if he knows it).

My Father bought them off a Dealer at the time and all their tags are different so different herds. We've no idea the farms or even where in the country to check that. Pity, thought the genotyping would give me the info on them

tanko · 14-04-2020 11:42am

The name and address of the original owner is on the cards but i suppose that could be a wild goose chase.

john mayo 10 · 14-04-2020 1:33pm

tanko wrote: »

The name and address of the original owner is on the cards but i suppose that could be a wild goose chase.

I had to do this before with 2 heifers we bought. We got hold of the original owner in limerick and he was quite happy to pass on the sire details

Ladeeen · 14-04-2020 2:56pm

john mayo 10 wrote: »

I had to do this before with 2 heifers we bought. We got hold of the original owner in limerick and he was quite happy to pass on the sire details

Did the same earlier this year with a few bucket fed yearling heifers I bought. Some people very obliging, obviously easier when they all the same herd.

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