A Takedown of RTE's Blatant Transphobia

Lefty Bicek · 01-03-2019 8:08pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I believe the attempt to rename feminism as egalitarianism is actually anti feminist.

If everyone were egalitarian, would there be any reason for feminism to exist ?

If not, what would be wrong with that ?

jrmb · 01-03-2019 8:21pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Nonsense.

Balance rules are not strict at all. They are only strict in relation to an election or referendum at all.

They will still preempt the grounds on which someone might complain and try to avoid such situations.

01-03-2019 11:07pm

Joeytheparrot wrote:

I'm a cis male feminist who believes strongly in equality.

In a man who believes in equality.

That's why im not a feminist

cloudatlas · 02-03-2019 1:05am

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Im not asking you why???????

Yes but you refuse to address it, you know most people equate feminists with women and radical feminism has been traditionally used as a slur yet you continue to defend the usage despite its misogynist origins. There is a word for transphobia and it is fingers on the buzzers...

JackTaylorFan · 02-03-2019 1:10pm

Ya'll getting off topic, to be honest.

J_E · 05-03-2019 1:58pm

Lefty Bicek wrote: »

If everyone were egalitarian, would there be any reason for feminism to exist ?

If not, what would be wrong with that ?

I think the difference is that feminism celebrates difference, where difference does not negatively impact women in areas like pay, treatment, etc. Much like Pride celebrates the 'other' rather than merely create a space where everyone is identical. There are differences between the two terms depending on what context you are talking about it in. I don't think JTP was inferring that egalitarianism is bad, more that there are many feminists who use feminism to actively highlight and celebrate the experience of womanhood in addition to fighting for rights/privileges.

Lefty Bicek · 05-03-2019 5:36pm

I think the difference is that feminism celebrates difference, where difference does not negatively impact women in areas like pay, treatment, etc.

Which is why so much of 'equality' looks an awful lot more like 'privilege'.

Equality in terms of doing hard, manual, physically demanding, low-paid unskilled work is there for the taking too, but not so enthusiastically adopted.

A straightforward commitment to egalitarianism would circumvent the inconsistency.

I don't think JTP was inferring that egalitarianism is bad, more that there are many feminists who use feminism to actively highlight and celebrate the experience of womanhood in addition to fighting for rights/privileges.

Joey is a cis male parrot, and I think not in a position to celebrate the experience of womanhood. He doesn't have any.

By instinct I am deeply, deeply suspicious of male feminists.

Ten of Swords · 05-03-2019 5:39pm

Guys if you want to discuss feminism can ye please create a new thread

TomSweeney · 06-03-2019 3:58pm

J_E wrote: »

I was really quite disappointed at the inclusion of Graham Linehan as a 'credible' voice. It undermined the whole programme and brought the tone of the conversation on trans youth into the gutter and did serious damage to trans people seeking understanding. He can spout all he wants on Twitter, but to have that placed on television on a sensitive space like that, you couldn't help but feel like there were dubious motives.

Dubious motives ?
Speaking the truth is dubious ??

AndrewJRenko · 06-03-2019 4:17pm

TomSweeney wrote: »

J_E wrote: »

I was really quite disappointed at the inclusion of Graham Linehan as a 'credible' voice. It undermined the whole programme and brought the tone of the conversation on trans youth into the gutter and did serious damage to trans people seeking understanding. He can spout all he wants on Twitter, but to have that placed on television on a sensitive space like that, you couldn't help but feel like there were dubious motives.

Dubious motives ?
Speaking the truth is dubious ??

Attempting to create controversy by importing a manufactured UK controversy is highly dubious.

baby and crumble · 06-03-2019 5:11pm

TomSweeney wrote: »

Dubious motives ?
Speaking the truth is dubious ??

What truths did he speak?

A Takedown of RTE's Blatant Transphobia

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