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€2500 fine for private joke with daughter..

  • 30-10-2014 5:00pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    A security alert was declared at Dublin Airport today following an incident on an Aer Lingus flight from Milan.

    It is understood a passenger on the plane claimed he had Ebola after writing it on a coffee cup.

    Gardaí say they are at the scene of a public order offence.

    In a statement to RTÉ News, Aer Lingus said: "A security issue arose on flight EI 433 (Milan to Dublin.) As a precaution passengers and crew were temporarily held on board the aircraft at Dublin airport while the matter was investigated."

    RTÉ News - Full Article


    Now unlike our friend in Stansted the other day, this is a very different kettle of fish.

    Claiming to have a highly transmittable disease that has the planet on alert at the moment in a confined space like an aircraft reveals a level of stupidity that is hard to match.

    He should be taken to the isolated observation unit at the Mater hospital and held there for three weeks to assertain whether he is bullshítting or not.

    Then if this proves to be the case (which I suspect it is), upon his discharge, he should have label placed on his back with the words 'I'M A GOBSHÍTE' written on it and be kicked up and down O'Connell Street Dublin for an hour on a busy Saturday afternoon..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    "A bollox! I said the steward was A Bollox for not giving me any more drink! Now put me down!!" :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    Damn Starbucks Staff jokes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    Lapin wrote: »



    Claiming to have a highly transmittable disease that has the planet on alert at the moment in a confined space like an aircraft reveals a level of stupidity that is hard to match.

    He should be taken to the isolated observation unit at the Mater hospital and held there for three weeks to assertain whether he is bullshítting or not.

    Then if this proves to be the case (which I suspect it is), upon his discharge, he should have label placed on his back with the words 'I'M A GOBSHÍTE' written on it and be kicked up and down O'Connell Street Dublin for an hour on a busy Saturday afternoon..

    All they have to do is check, that he hasnt been to high risk countries and he is fine. There is no need for the tax payers to keep him in the mater for 3 weeks.

    Although he sounds like he might be spending in the next 3 weeks in John of Gods, because he doesnt sound 100% in the mind to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    Was the passenger Italian? Could have just been a miscommunication issue due to a poor standard of spoken & written English. Chances are he was just hungry & asking for a bowl o' soup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Sooooo.... not Kermit? :confused:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    hfallada wrote: »
    All they have to do is check, that he hasnt been to high risk countries and he is fine. There is no need for the tax payers to keep him in the mater for 3 weeks.

    Damn right.

    Send him the bill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    What an idiot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Probably locked and acting the maggot. Nothing a solid kicking wouldn't sort out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    probably nothing that a liberal application of shoe leather won't cure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    O'bola.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Cormac... wrote: »
    Sooooo.... not Kermit? :confused:

    Wot?:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,455 ✭✭✭tritium


    This is too serious to take chances with people...

    Lots of invasive cavity testing during his three or more weeks in the mater isolation wing...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Lapin wrote: »
    Muppet causes security alert in Dublin Airport.

    Enda Kenny?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    He was probably wearing a poppy too the cnut!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,264 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I was in Melbourne airport once, behind a moron who thought it would be funny to say 'No just the bomb' to the security guy in response to the 'Any liquids, iPad?' question.

    Panels in the walls opened and all these guys like SWAT came out and wrestled him to the ground. I hope the smack his head hit the ground with was enough to knock some sense into him.

    There are some terrible fools in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    He was probably only asking for ebola cornflakes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    He was probably only asking for ebola cornflakes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,206 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Reminds me of when I started work for a certain directory enquiry line here in Ireland.
    This was in 2004 and during the training, the HR manager talks about the use of the phone handsets. She showed us that the phones could dial-out but never to do that (as the company would get charged) and "never ever think about having a laugh and winding someone up" So she goes into an example of when the company had to fire someone.

    Basically, a guy was taking directory calls one day and he decides to dial out. But rather than making a call to one of his friends or even just ringing the service to wind up another colleague (which I admit to doing myself :pac: ) ... No. He rings the reception of the building and states there is an explosive device planted. Que the evacuation of the building (which housed more than one business) and utter mess.

    But it's what the HR manager says that always makes me laugh... "if the ejjit only used his mobile instead we wouldnt of been able to find out who made the call. I'll never know what dawned on him to use the company line" :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    spurious wrote: »
    I was in Melbourne airport once, behind a moron who thought it would be funny to say 'No just the bomb' to the security guy in response to the 'Any liquids, iPad?' question.

    Panels in the walls opened and all these guys like SWAT came out and wrestled him to the ground. I hope the smack his head hit the ground with was enough to knock some sense into him.

    There are some terrible fools in the world.
    He was only one among a list of morons in that story tbh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 400 ✭✭jiminho


    Lapin wrote: »

    Claiming to have a highly transmittable disease that has the planet on alert at the moment in a confined space like an aircraft reveals a level of stupidity that is hard to match

    Short of smearing poo on an open cut or gobsmacking an Ebola carrier, the odds of contracting it are quite low even if you are in a confined space. I think the world needs to calm down a little.......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    spurious wrote: »
    I was in Melbourne airport once, behind a moron who thought it would be funny to say 'No just the bomb' to the security guy in response to the 'Any liquids, iPad?' question.

    Botham?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    K4t wrote: »
    He was only one among a list of morons in that story tbh.


    In fairness, what are the odds that someone would say that while being frisked in an airport, as a joke? You'd have to be profoundly stupid. So statistically speaking, he was as likely to mean it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Grade A Muppet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    Everytime this happens ie an idiot disrupts a flight by acting the idiot, im of the same opinion,never let them fly again.ban them for life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,642 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Why would you do that anyway, you have just ruined your Irish holiday and held everyone else up on the plane unnecessarily, what a prune.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Why would you do that anyway, you have just ruined your Irish holiday and held everyone else up on the plane unnecessarily, what a prune.

    Yeah like what did the muppet think would happen, everyone laugh it off and think he was gas character.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Why would you do that anyway, you have just ruined your Irish holiday and held everyone else up on the plane unnecessarily, what a prune.

    Maybe he was coming back from holiday and just didn't want it to end.


  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Deadlie


    They were coming from Milan? Chances are they were just a couple of ten-pin bowling enthusiasts.

    'EBOLA GREAT-A GAME!'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Still I'd like to know what the specific details are.

    Like if it was a girl and her parents and they're drinking coffee etc and she writes I have a Ebola on a coffee cup and hands it to her dad and says "try this" and then when he does, laugh and point at the text and tell him he has now got Ebola, while certainly stupid, it wouldn't warrant in my view, the action taken by the authorities or the flight crew


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Hes a gas man though


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Vincent Vega


    Uriel. wrote: »
    Still I'd like to know what the specific details are.

    Like if it was a girl and her parents and they're drinking coffee etc and she writes I have a Ebola on a coffee cup and hands it to her dad and says "try this" and then when he does, laugh and point at the text and tell him he has now got Ebola, while certainly stupid, it wouldn't warrant in my view, the action taken by the authorities or the flight crew

    I think it's highly probable that it was a joke in poor taste.

    Airplane food and drink aren't the best so I could see how it could have simply been a joke between 2 family members about the poor quality of the coffee.

    Easy to see how this could go wrong and miscommunication between the man and a flight attendant could have occurred when rubbish was being collected. Maybe he drew their attention to it to try explain it being a joke?

    I fully understand erring on the side of caution but I think it's an unfortunate situation for all involved.

    It'll be interesting to see how many similar incidents occur over the Halloween weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1031/655965-ebola-claim-on-flight/
    His daughter had ordered a coffee and he took a sip from the cup first. She told him his germs were on the coffee cup and as a joke he wrote "Attenzione Ebola" on the lid.

    Next time I'm on a plane I'm going to write "Attention: Polio" on the lid of a coffee cup.

    Insane reaction by the judge & airline to an obvious joke that really caused no harm.

    Full story:
    An Italian man arrested at Dublin Airport after "a sick joke" about Ebola has been ordered to pay €2,500 to charity to avoid a criminal conviction.
    Roberto Binaschi, 56, with an address in Milan, wrote the words "Attenzione Ebola" on the lid of a disposable coffee cup as a joke with his daughter while on board the flight from Milan to Dublin yesterday.
    The cup was disposed of in the usual way but cabin crew spotted the wording on the lid, sparking an alert, which resulted in his arrest.
    At Dublin District Court this morning Mr Binaschi apologised and said he never intended to cause concern.
    The court was told Mr Binaschi was on a flight from Milan with his wife and daughter to attend a conference in Dublin.
    His daughter had ordered a coffee and he took a sip from the cup first. She told him his germs were on the coffee cup and as a joke he wrote "Attenzione Ebola" on the lid.
    His daughter then finished the coffee and the cup was disposed of.
    When a member of the cabin crew spotted the words Mr Binaschi was asked if he had written them and he said yes.
    The court was told his wife was sitting with them and was not even aware of the joke. At no time was the cup or lid exposed to anyone else on the plane.
    Judge Anthony Halpin said he could not think of a more serious offence given the present day fear of Ebola.
    He said it was like writing on a napkin that there is a bomb on the plane. "He was over international waters on an international flight, that is how serious it is".
    However, after hearing evidence from the defendant who said he now realised the anxiety he had caused after what was a private joke with his daughter, the judge said it did not warrant a prison sentence.
    He said he took into account that the flight was not in the "geo plane" of where Ebola is at the minute.
    Judge Halpin also said Mr Binaschi was disposing of the cup rather than bringing it to the attention of the cabin crew which was a factor that had to be taken in to consideration.
    "It cannot be described as anything but a sick joke," the judge said.
    He ordered Mr Binaschi to pay €2,500 to the Capuchin Friary in Bow Street in Dublin and applied the Probation Act.
    Mr Binaschi had pleaded guilty to using threatening abusive or insulting behaviour on board an aircraft.
    The charge is under the Air Navigation and Transport Act and if convicted he could have been fined or jailed.
    The man's solicitor, Michelle Finan, said Mr Binaschi was a company director coming to Dublin to attend a conference and was "here trying to create jobs".
    Others attending the conference had "bunched together" to collect €2,500 which was the sum ordered by the judge to be given to charity.
    She said he was very anxious that people would not think he had tried to cause any alarm and was anxious to apologise to Aer Lingus and to gardaí.
    The judge said he had "learned his lesson, he looks visibly upset".
    However, he said he had to stress "how serious it was and send out a message that we don't want other people doing it".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Next time I'm on a plane I'm going to write "Attention: Polio" on the lid of a coffee cup.

    It's nice to have a hobby


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Magico Gonzalez


    Well done judge, didn't require a sentence but for a good charity to profit to the tune of 2500 for this idiot's ignorance strikes me as an excellent result.

    Now, if we could apply the same fine to anyone wearing an ebola halloween costume we'd be heading in the right direction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭doolox


    ....comes to mind. The guy should have realized that flippancy about death or disease related stuff does not go down well in Ireland


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Roberto made the mistake of not having 99 previous convictions


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    doolox wrote: »
    ....comes to mind. The guy should have realized that flippancy about death or disease related stuff does not go down well in Ireland

    Well, or on airplanes anywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,594 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Why is this the top story on RTE?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭yipeeeee


    Not too mention the delays to the passengers and wasting garda time etc.

    He got off easy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Why is this the top story on RTE?
    Because it is RTÉ


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    Wow that's crazy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 212 ✭✭Rotunda Shill


    Roberto Binaschi, 56

    5+6 = 11

    It was probably all a hoax to fearmonger the Ebola crisis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Yeah, the way the media reported this yesterday, it sounded like some idiot making a joke in bad taste. I'm going to put this in bold because people clearly didn't see this bit:

    He didn't show the cup to anybody but his daughter. An air steward picked it up and panicked

    Clearly in this case the guy was sharing a private (and frankly funny) joke with his daughter, and had no intention of causing any offence or panic. €2,500 is a ridiculous fine, the judge is on another planet here. People are allowed to make private jokes regardless of how crude or offensive someone else may think it is.

    I suspect this poor guy just pleaded guilty on the basis that the solicitor told him he'd get away with a fine and no conviction, rather than spend the next 18 months fighting this.

    And in other news a man with 92 convictions gets 2 years for threatening to murder a Garda.

    Fncking judges, no sense of proportion. The steward should lose their job to be quite frank.


  • Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭Jenda


    When are people ever going to learn?

    "Harmless jokes" about bombs on an airplane, or in an airport, are not harmless.

    "Harmless jokes" about terrorism on an airplane, or in an airport, are not harmless.

    "Harmless jokes" about ebola on an airplane, or in an airport, are not harmless.

    They can, have, and will be taken seriously for the safety of everyone working on board and everyone travelling, and you'll be up the creek for having made them - and they're right to do so.

    And what's more, pretty well everyone travelling knows that and think it doesn't apply to them personally because staff are meant to be mind readers about your intent (I've seen this most often with white Americans who are shocked that they're treated the same as everybody else when it comes to these rules, but that's purely anecdotal on my part from taking flights myself).

    To the poster above mine - if he "only shared a private harmless joke to his daughter about his intention to blow the plane up" or whatever, it would still be taken seriously, as it should be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    That will make him think twice next time. A company director coming to create jobs !!! And cant pull 2500 together for a fine... good one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    This man is clearly worse than Hitler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭FactCheck


    Mr Binaschi had pleaded guilty to using threatening abusive or insulting behaviour on board an aircraft.

    Does this mean he lost the rag and started swearing at the air hostesses when they questioned him?

    Because the fine seems fair enough if so.

    Or is the "threatening" just the writing down of the word Ebola? In which case it seems like the whole thing could have been handled with a bit more cop on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    It's a ridiculous overreaction by the judge. How was this anything other than a waste of Garda and Court time:confused: A fine for having a sense of humour. OK, it was a stupid thing to do, but ffs, people are stupid and we do stupid things. Maybe the government can introduce a stupidity tax:D


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Eva Thundering Rainfall


    Judge Anthony Halpin said he could not think of a more serious offence given the present day fear of Ebola.

    Can't think of a more serious offence? Like actually bombing the plane or actually spreading a disease or killing someone, no???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭SteM


    doolox wrote: »
    ....comes to mind. The guy should have realized that flippancy about death or disease related stuff does not go down well in Ireland


    It's not really the same as shouting FIRE in a crowded place for everyone to hear at all though.

    It would be the same as writing fire on a piece of paper and passing it to a friend and someone working in the theatre spotting it and reporting it to the Gardai.


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