Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

pixelburp · 09-07-2019 9:21pm

Kimsang wrote: »

It proves that people are selectively outraged when it suits their agenda.

Less selective outrage in this case, more that Gemma and others haven't a bloody clue. An agenda I suppose ("SJW are ruining our 18th cnetury Danish fairytales" apparently), that's shown to be myopic, misplaced and utterly premature in its haste to roll eyes at another PC-gone-mad'ism.

Blueshoe · 09-07-2019 10:34pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Again. ‘The left’

Who are this evil ominous organisation called ‘the left’??

Seriously you have issues if you think actually I give up. What is this ‘left’ you speak of??

People with left wing views. As opposed to people with right wing views

Kimsang · 09-07-2019 10:44pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

How can you prove she isn't making money on this though?

I can't, but the burden of proof isn't on me.

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Gemma just wants to create a brand and revenue through YouTube clicks.
A yellow pack Katie Hopkins knock off.
Is anyone in any doubt about that?

Kimsang wrote: »

You might have a point if Youtube didn't de-monetize everything even vaguely controversial or political.

How do you argue she makes money?

Kimsang wrote: »

What is the end game that brings in the big bucks?

Annasopra · 09-07-2019 10:46pm

Kimsang wrote: »

I can't, but the burden of proof isn't on me.

How do you argue she makes money?

To be fair there is really a burden on those who say she does and those who say she doesnt. You claim she doesnt.

Blueshoe · 09-07-2019 10:48pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

To be fair there is really a burden on those who say she does and those who say she doesnt. You claim she doesnt.

Tommy Robinson is going to jail probably

super_furry · 09-07-2019 10:49pm

So are the mermaids in league with the unicorns?

Kimsang · 09-07-2019 11:13pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

To be fair there is really a burden on those who say she does and those who say she doesnt. You claim she doesnt.

I just showed how I was replying to stopmoaning's claim that she was just creating a brand. Can you prove she was just creating a brand?
I'm inclined to believe she believes what she says. Can you prove otherwise? I would like to know. How do you argue she makes money?

Timberrrrrrrr · 09-07-2019 11:19pm

Gemma's whinging again because youtube have suspended her channel

Kimsang · 09-07-2019 11:21pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Gemma's whinging again because youtube have suspended her channel

They are de-monetizing just about everyone who engages in anything political/controversial anymore. Go check for yourself. All 'sides' are now being hit. I hope this is what the left want, this is what they asked for.

Blueshoe · 09-07-2019 11:27pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Gemma's whinging again because youtube have suspended her channel

You must be delighted. Plenty of right wing personalities with both large and small followings are being demonized or banned from social media. And Tommy Robinson heading for prison.

You are winning and will eventually reach your goal of having no right wing opinions being broadcast on social media. A great day for lefties

batgoat · 09-07-2019 11:31pm

Kimsang wrote: »

They are de-monetizing just about everyone who engages in anything political/controversial anymore. Go check for yourself. All 'sides' are now being hit. I hope this is what the left want, this is what they asked for.

She frequently breaks the rules on both twitter and YouTube. So you think the platforms are not entitled to enforce their rules? It's not because she's political. Same applies to all those other people who tend to get banned. They engage in hate speech and use conspiracies as propaganda.

Blueshoe wrote: »

You must be delighted. Plenty of right wing personalities with both large and small followings are being demonized or banned from social media. And Tommy Robinson heading for prison.

You are winning and will eventually reach your goal of having no right wing opinions being broadcast on social media. A great day for lefties

Pretty great to see rules being enforced. Being right wing doesn't give carte blanche to do whatever you want.

Blueshoe · 09-07-2019 11:35pm

batgoat wrote: »

She frequently breaks the rules on both twitter and YouTube. So you think the platforms are not entitled to enforce their rules? It's not because she's political. Same applies to all those other people who tend to get banned. They engage in hate speech and use conspiracies as propaganda.

Pretty great to see rules being enforced. Being right wing doesn't give carte blanche to do whatever you want.

It's pretty clear which way things are going.

Kimsang · 09-07-2019 11:38pm

Blueshoe wrote: »

You are winning and will eventually reach your goal of having no right wing opinions being broadcast on social media. A great day for lefties

They don't realize that when that day comes; they are usually the first lined up against a wall and shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4kHiUAjTvQ

batgoat · 09-07-2019 11:40pm

Blueshoe wrote: »

It's pretty clear which way things are going.

Nope, literally all of the people I can think of that were banned for "right wing" views tended to say some desperate things. They engaged in abuse and targeted individuals much of the time. It wasn't simply expressing a view.

Stephen15 · 09-07-2019 11:48pm

batgoat wrote: »

She frequently breaks the rules on both twitter and YouTube. So you think the platforms are not entitled to enforce their rules? It's not because she's political. Same applies to all those other people who tend to get banned. They engage in hate speech and use conspiracies as propaganda.

What rules has she broken and don't say something subjective like hate speech

Pretty great to see rules being enforced. Being right wing doesn't give carte blanche to do whatever you want.

And being left wing doesn't give you card blanche to throw harmful substances at people. Most lefties are of the belief that anyone with right wing with anti immigration views is automatically guilty of incitement to hatred.

Blueshoe · 09-07-2019 11:49pm

batgoat wrote: »

Nope, literally all of the people I can think of that were banned for "right wing" views tended to say some desperate things. They engaged in abuse and targeted individuals much of the time. It wasn't simply expressing a view.

Yes. And they are all being removed one by one.
How right wing can views be now before they are considered far right? Social media leftists will decide and the social media companies will ban as requested.

That is the path being chosen so yes you have won. I don't mind admitting it. I can see the writing on the wall

batgoat · 10-07-2019 12:03am

Stephen15 wrote: »

What rules has she broken and don't say something subjective like hate speech

And being left wing doesn't give you card blanche to throw harmful substances at people. Most lefties are of the belief that anyone with right wing with anti immigration views is automatically guilty of incitement to hatred.

I don't favour throwing harmful liquids at people...

Rules she's broken, online harassment would be one that automatically comes to mind. She's regularly targeted people critical of her. Eg Fiona O Leary. That's against the rules and resulted in plenty of real life harassment in addition to online. Pretty sure there's plenty of others who have been subject to it as well. And hate speech is against YouTube rules so no you don't get to discount it... So there's two rules she regularly flouts.

Harvey Weinstein · 10-07-2019 12:08am

batgoat wrote: »

She frequently breaks the rules on both twitter and YouTube. So you think the platforms are not entitled to enforce their rules? It's not because she's political. Same applies to all those other people who tend to get banned. They engage in hate speech and use conspiracies as propaganda.

Pretty great to see rules being enforced. Being right wing doesn't give carte blanche to do whatever you want.

Being left wing though does give you carte blanche to do whatever you want...like depicting lgbt Children in a semi pornographic manner a la Desmond

Just how far are you willing to go?

Blueshoe · 10-07-2019 12:09am

batgoat wrote: »

I don't favour throwing harmful liquids at people...

Rules she's broken, online harassment would be one that automatically comes to mind. She's regularly targeted people critical of her. Eg Fiona O Leary. That's against the rules and resulted in plenty of real life harassment in addition to online. Pretty sure there's plenty of others who have been subject to it as well. And hate speech is against YouTube rules so no you don't get to discount it... So there's two rules she regularly flouts.

There are people on twitter who's feed is entirely made up of insults and mocking croft and o doherty. That's all they do. There is even a parody account set up just to insult o doherty

FartyBlartFast · 10-07-2019 12:09am

Deleted User wrote: »

Stop moaning ffs wrote:

Does the colour of the characters skin in a retelling, change the story somehow?

Hahahahahahaha.... Really?

Really?

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Brilliant.

The left really need to start being consistent with their outrage of cultural appropriation.

Why, in your own opinion and words, should people be outraged by this?

If they make a big deal of it ala Ghostbusters, the little mermaid will be a flop and laughing stock as that was. If they don't, it can work out very well ala... well ala the Little Mermaid from 1989. I don't recall as a big a stink over that, but then again we didn't have quite so much snowflakey outrage culture either.

Stephen15 · 10-07-2019 12:13am

batgoat wrote: »

Rules she's broken, online harassment would be one that automatically comes to mind. She's regularly targeted people critical of her. Eg Fiona O Leary. That's against the rules and resulted in plenty of real life harassment in addition to online. Pretty sure there's plenty of others who have been subject to it as well. And hate speech is against YouTube rules so no you don't get to discount it... So there's two rules she regularly flouts.

I don't remember her harassing Fiona O'Leary perhaps her supporters were harrassing her but that's nothing to do with her. The only interaction I've seen those too having was when she was defending against allegation which O'Leary was making.

FartyBlartFast · 10-07-2019 12:16am

Blueshoe wrote: »

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Gemma's whinging again because youtube have suspended her channel

You must be delighted. Plenty of right wing personalities with both large and small followings are being demonized or banned from social media. And Tommy Robinson heading for prison.

You are winning and will eventually reach your goal of having no right wing opinions being broadcast on social media. A great day for lefties

I am delighted Tommy Robinson is going to prison.

That is what should happen to people who repeatedly break the law. Why would you want someone to repeatedly get away with breaking the law?

Annasopra · 10-07-2019 12:19am

Stephen15 wrote: »

I don't remember her harassing Fiona O'Leary perhaps her supporters were harrassing her but that's nothing to do with her. The only interaction I've seen those too having was when she was defending against allegation which O'Leary was making.

She absolutely 110% did harass Fiona O'Leary. She said Fiona must be "dealt with". She published videos calling her all sorts of names. The videos had to be taken down because they were so bad. It was all very threatening and bullying.

Ha Long Bay · 10-07-2019 12:20am

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

She absolutely 110% did harass Fiona O'Leary. She said Fiona must be "dealt with". She published videos calling her all sorts of names. The videos had to be taken down because they were so bad.

https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1108484160904183808

Stephen15 · 10-07-2019 12:21am

FartyBlartFast wrote: »

I am delighted Tommy Robinson is going to prison.

That is what should happen to people who repeatedly break the law. Why would you want someone to repeatedly get away with breaking the law?

He already been in jail for the same offence and was let out. Even if he did break the law I've never heard of someone being put back in jail for the same offence after they've been released unless they've breached a release condition of some sort which Tommy has not done at least to the best the public's knowledge.

Annasopra · 10-07-2019 12:21am

john4321 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1108484160904183808

Exactly. It was so bad youtube had to remove it for breaking their terms and conditions.

Its actually quite hilarious that her supporters now try to deny Gemmas nasty bullying and threatening behaviour against Fiona.

batgoat · 10-07-2019 12:22am

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

Being left wing though does give you carte blanche to do whatever you want...like depicting lgbt Children in a semi pornographic manner a la Desmond

Just how far are you willing to go?

Erm, you guys really seem to make weird conclusions about what people think. I will happily say that I don't support the depiction of children in any such way.

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

She absolutely 110% did harass Fiona O'Leary. She said Fiona must be "dealt with". She published videos calling her all sorts of names. The videos had to be taken down because they were so bad. It was all very threatening and bullying.

Her videos also frequently reference her. She has been subject to lots of real life harassment as a direct result as well. Stephen and Co are either incredibly ignorant or they're just fine with it tbh. Inclined to say latter.

Blueshoe · 10-07-2019 12:22am

FartyBlartFast wrote: »

I am delighted Tommy Robinson is going to prison.

That is what should happen to people who repeatedly break the law. Why would you want someone to repeatedly get away with breaking the law?

Definitely not. He is going to prison not the Us. I wouldn't fancy being in his shoes

Ha Long Bay · 10-07-2019 12:22am

Stephen15 wrote: »

He already been in jail for the same offence and was let out. Even if he did break the law I've never heard of someone being put back in jail for the same offence after they've been released unless they've breached a release condition of some sort which Tommy has not done at least to the best the public's knowledge.

Can you not use his real name? Stephen Yaxley-Lennon

Blueshoe · 10-07-2019 12:23am

john4321 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1108484160904183808

Is she living in a six bed courtesy of the taxpayer?

Is it only harassment if o Doherty does it? There are some people on twitter who do nothing but insult and belittle o Doherty. There is even a parody page set up with the sole aim of insulting her

Annasopra · 10-07-2019 12:26am

Blueshoe wrote: »

You must be delighted. Plenty of right wing personalities with both large and small followings are being demonized or banned from social media. And Tommy Robinson heading for prison.

You are winning and will eventually reach your goal of having no right wing opinions being broadcast on social media. A great day for lefties

Thats just completely oversimplifying a whole rake of issues. Everyone who is left wing does not all right wing opinion shut down.

Ha Long Bay · 10-07-2019 12:27am

Blueshoe wrote: »

Is she living in a six bed courtesy of the taxpayer?

I dont know or care if she is or not I dont know anything about her. Just took 5 seconds to see if what Stephen15 said was true or now.

"I don't remember her harassing Fiona O'Leary perhaps her supporters were harrassing her but that's nothing to do with her."

Annasopra · 10-07-2019 12:27am

Blueshoe wrote: »

Is she living in a six bed courtesy of the taxpayer?

Why? Are you going to bully and harass her too?

batgoat · 10-07-2019 12:29am

Blueshoe wrote: »

Is she living in a six bed courtesy of the taxpayer?

Is she engaging in targeted harassment of an individual? She meets the criteria for such a house if she is btw. So trying to arrange a troll campaign to attempt to evict a woman and her family tends to further validate how she does break the terms of service...

Annasopra · 10-07-2019 12:29am

john4321 wrote: »

I dont know or care if she is or not I dont know anything about her. Just took 5 seconds to see if what Stephen15 said was true or now.

"I don't remember her harassing Fiona O'Leary perhaps her supporters were harrassing her but that's nothing to do with her."

Exactly. Gemma has been bullying and harassing Fiona O'Leary and now of course Gemmas supporters are trying to deny it all. And a lot of more of them are threatening her.

Kimsang · 10-07-2019 12:29am

FartyBlartFast wrote: »

That is what should happen to people who repeatedly break the law. Why would you want someone to repeatedly get away with breaking the law?

I'm sure you were happy with Galileo Galilei's imprisonment then also.

Here is a Canadian litigator explaining the contempt orders issued against Robinson. He argues UK judges have a lot of power of discretion when it comes to contempt orders. Do you think its right someone can be found guilty and sentenced for 13months in a matter of 5 hours? Also do you think its right that the judge issues a gag order on this verdict?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF204afEC_4

Blueshoe · 10-07-2019 12:30am

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Why? Are you going to bully and harass her too?

I am going to take it to be true then. You haven't said otherwise.

I want a 6 bed courtesy of the taxpayer

Blueshoe · 10-07-2019 12:33am

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Thats just completely oversimplifying a whole rake of issues. Everyone who is left wing does not all right wing opinion shut down.

There is nothing more you would love. You will have your wish by the looks of it too. The writing is on the wall.

batgoat · 10-07-2019 12:34am

Kimsang wrote: »

I'm sure you were happy with Galileo Galilei's imprisonment then also.

Here is a Canadian litigator explaining the contempt orders issued against Robinson. He argues UK judges have a lot of power of discretion when it comes to contempt orders. Do you think its right someone can be found guilty and sentenced for 13months in a matter of 5 hours? Also do you think its right that the judge issues a gag order on this verdict?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF204afEC_4

By reporting on the trial he risked a successful conviction.... So hardly Gallileo... He did so for his own profile and now it's royally backfired on him.

Blueshoe wrote: »

There is nothing more you would love. You will have your wish by the looks of it too. The writing is on the wall.

You realise you've not addressed anything with your responses? We've already illustrated how the various victims of ban hammers were legitimately banned/suspended... Not a great sign when you can't counter any of the points made.

Stephen15 · 10-07-2019 12:35am

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

She absolutely 110% did harass Fiona O'Leary. She said Fiona must be "dealt with". She published videos calling her all sorts of names. The videos had to be taken down because they were so bad. It was all very threatening and bullying.

Whatever about online abuse which is less serious than physical abuse. So far only a left wing supporter of Fiona O'Leary in Leah Doherty has engaged in the physical abuse of Rowan Croft. Fairly sure Fiona has said similar about Gemma.

Leah has also accused Gemma of being involved in terrorism.

https://twitter.com/LeahNiD/status/1143256828496752641?s=19

Annasopra · 10-07-2019 12:37am

Blueshoe wrote: »

I am going to take it to be true then. You haven't said otherwise

I have no idea to be honest. If she is then she is there for a reason and thats perfectly fine by me. Or maybe you think we shoul start bullying and harassing every named council tenant in the country?

Kimsang · 10-07-2019 12:37am

batgoat wrote: »

By reporting on the trial he risked a successful conviction.... So hardly Gallileo... He did so for his own profile and now it's royally backfired on him.

4:00 mins mark. The names were already published by the BBC. It was spiteful

Annasopra · 10-07-2019 12:38am

Stephen15 wrote: »

Whatever about online abuse which is less serious than physical abuse. So far only a left wing supporter of Fiona O'Leary in Leah Doherty has engaged in the physical abuse of Rowan Croft. Fairly sure Fiona has said similar about Gemma.

Leah has also accused Gemma of being involved in terrorism.

https://twitter.com/LeahNiD/status/1143256828496752641?s=19

Haha so now you're trying to change the subject and minimise Gemmas harassment and bullying.

I agree with what Leah Doherty said there.

Gemma by her actions has encouraged mass harassment and bullying of O'Leary

https://fionaolearyblog.wordpress.com/2019/03/27/meet-some-of-anti-corruption-ireland-aci-supporters/

Stephen15 · 10-07-2019 12:40am

I do agree that Fiona O'Leary has been on the end of some serious abuse online but none of that has been because of Gemma, Rowan or any other "far right" figures that are publicly on social media. They are a minority of supporters it's like blaming Manchester United for the abuse of Liverpool fans over Hillsborough by a small element of Man U supporters.

batgoat · 10-07-2019 12:43am

Stephen15 wrote: »

Whatever about online abuse which is less serious than physical abuse. So far only a left wing supporter of Fiona O'Leary in Leah Doherty has engaged in the physical abuse of Rowan Croft. Fairly sure Fiona has said similar about Gemma.

Leah has also accused Gemma of being involved in terrorism.

https://twitter.com/LeahNiD/status/1143256828496752641?s=19

So the tweet you've just linked to has people threatening Fiona's life in the comments of Gemma's stream so pretty legit to accuse Gemma of encouraging nutters.

Annasopra · 10-07-2019 12:43am

Stephen15 wrote: »

I do agree that Fiona O'Leary has been on the end of some serious abuse online but none of that has been because of Gemma, Rowan or any other "far right" figures that are publicly on social media. They are a minority of supporters it's like blaming Manchester United for the abuse of Liverpool fans over Hillsborough by a small element of Man U supporters.

Bollox. Gemma abused her ffs.

Gemmas supporters have been encouraged and incited to abuse her.

Blueshoe · 10-07-2019 12:43am

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Haha so now you're trying to change the subject and minimise Gemmas harassment and bullying.

I agree with what Leah Doherty said there.

Gemma by her actions has encouraged mass harassment and bullying of O'Leary

https://fionaolearyblog.wordpress.com/2019/03/27/meet-some-of-anti-corruption-ireland-aci-supporters/

Take a look at Translate Gemma (@GemmaTranslate): https://twitter.com/GemmaTranslate?s=09

Stephen15 · 10-07-2019 12:44am

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Haha so now you're trying to change the subject and minimise Gemmas harassment and bullying.

It's hardly bullying and harrassment and if it is then people criticising the Grand Torino for being part of the British Army, living with his mother and calling him names like 'Tan Torino' should be deplatformed for bullying and harassing him.

Annasopra · 10-07-2019 12:45am

Nah Gemma has abused, bullied, harassed and threarened Fiona and encouraged and incited her supporters too

https://fionaolearyblog.wordpress.com/2019/03/27/meet-some-of-anti-corruption-ireland-aci-supporters/

Blueshoe · 10-07-2019 12:46am

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I have no idea to be honest. If she is then she is there for a reason and thats perfectly fine by me. Or maybe you think we shoul start bullying and harassing every named council tenant in the country?

Settle down with the outrage.

How can I get a six bed house on the taxpayer?

Here's an account specifically set up to mock O'Doherty.

Take a look at Translate Gemma (@GemmaTranslate): https://twitter.com/GemmaTranslate?s=09

Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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