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Obesity crisis in Ireland Mod Note post 1

  • 05-02-2019 11:55pm
    #1
    GAA Beo
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 195 ✭✭GAA Beo


    What can be done about the obesity crisis in Ireland, we are already one of the fattest countries in Europe, by 2030 we will be the fattest I seen in some report. Walk around the streets it's obvious Paddy and Mary are packing on the pounds young and old, men and women. Sedentary lifestyles, alcohol, bad diet, unable to cook, parenting many aspects to this. The amount of fat kids waddling round is a sad sight to see.


    What can be done? Some suggestions

    - Make Home Economics mandatory in schools

    - Encourage organic meat and veg, aim to lower prices make it more widespread

    - Maybe some nanny state laws, limit on take aways per area , stricter food advertising


    Mod Note Keep this on a discussion and not a fat shamming/name calling thread!


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  • #2
    LirW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    Ban breakfast cereal, problem solved.


  • #3
    Dakotabigone
    Site Banned Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    The amount of parents who have their Sunday dinner with their children in Macdonalds is gone beyond a joke at this stage.


  • #4
    radharc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭radharc


    How will organic meat and veg reduce obesity :confused:


  • #5
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Careful now, we don't want to be fat shaming people and giving out about their lifestyle choices that have led them to become obsese.


  • #6
    fermanagh_man
    Registered Users Posts: 810 ✭✭✭fermanagh_man


    We have just become lazier as a nation, along with The UK
    Smart phones and technology playing a key part.


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  • #7
    PARlance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,333 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    radharc wrote: »
    How will organic meat and veg reduce obesity :confused:

    It's hard to explain, it'll happen organically.


  • #8
    Ten of Swords
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,063 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Tax sugar sweetened drinks

    Oh wait...

    Moderator: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender, Vegan & Vegetarian

    Category Moderator: Social & Fun



  • #9
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Dakotabigone wrote: »
    The amount of parents who have their Sunday dinner with their children in Macdonalds is gone beyond a joke at this stage.

    The same parents will tell you that they can’t afford to cook a proper meal, that it’s too expensive.

    Lazy inbreds.


  • #10
    kennypowers
    Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭kennypowers


    Stop schools spending hours teaching about imaginary beings in the sky and replace with physical exercise.


  • #11
    GAA Beo
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    radharc wrote: »
    How will organic meat and veg reduce obesity :confused:
    Fair point, it's still healthier though.


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  • #12
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    And yet running and the gym and foods like kale and soya are more popular than ever.

    I don't think it's as bad overall as people like to say. Probably only really prevalent among specific groups rather than overall.


  • #13
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Those poor people again what can be done with them


  • #14
    bop1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭bop1977


    Make operation transformation a junior cert subject. Get them before they become to fat.


  • #15
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Many of the parents feeding their kids fast food and unhealthy meals, did home economics at secondary school; I know several.


    Organic meat and veg are no panacea, as organic/unorgainc is not a factor.


  • #16
    GAA Beo
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    Dakotabigone wrote: »
    The amount of parents who have their Sunday dinner with their children in Macdonalds is gone beyond a joke at this stage.
    McDonald's is the worst, packed day and night, kids stuffing themselves. If it was up to me I would ban McDonald's entirely but I suppose that isn't feasible.


  • #17
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Those poor people again what can be done with them
    And yet it's only you who brought up poor people...


  • #18
    LirW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    kennypowers wrote: »
    Stop schools spending hours teaching about imaginary beings in the sky and replace with physical exercise.

    In fairness, there are schools that teach about the importance of diet, exercise and hygiene.
    My son's bogger school has the rule that every kid has to run a lap around the building in the morning, they talk about food a lot and the last two weeks they spent talking about dental hygiene and sugary foods. It seems that's all supported by the HSE.


  • #19
    SSr0
    Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭SSr0


    Fat people are gross.


  • #20
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Selling junk food and to chunky monkeys should be made the equivalent of selling alcohol to kids


  • #21
    GAA Beo
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    LirW wrote: »
    Ban breakfast cereal, problem solved.
    More porridge and weetabix maybe? I have buckwheat flakes and tea for breakfast.


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  • #22
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,408 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    If we made poor people eat unicorns , would that help ?


  • #23
    Dakotabigone
    Site Banned Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    Parents at deli counters in the morning before school buying their children hot food and they stuffing their face with it before school.


  • #24
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,809 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I don't know. I think personal responsibility plays a big part in things but people have a thing for blaming everybody else/government.
    Take diet there is so much information out there now about what is healthy/unhealthy. It's not rocket science.
    I know nurses/chefs/etc all who are over weight and some obese. These people have studied diet/etc for years.
    Schools now are also doing loads of active flags/health promoting schools/etc.


  • #25
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    I think more people need to learn how to cook. It’s so much easier to control your portion sizes when you cook from scratch. And many people seem to be afraid of cooking, like it’s really hard. The more you practice it, the easier it gets.


  • #26
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    A bar of chocolate used to be a euro now you can go to deals, euro giant, mr price and get 4 for 1.50

    Just eat, deliveroo, Uber eats etc all encouraging fast food.

    We are subjected to heavy marketing campaigns from these companies through email and social media.

    People are just lazy when it comes to home cooking and making bad choices. Example, woman standing next to me in Aldi the other day clearly obese spends time browsing the mince meat. Picks up the 20% fat as opposed to the 5%. Simple choices can make a huge difference.


  • #27
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    The Finns had a huge issue with coronary disease, especially in the north. Men used to eat a half pound of butter PER DAY.

    Tergetted the housewives, got it cut way down. Incidents plummeted.


    Target the mammies. You can't say that as it's gendered but in practice that's what'll do it. Exercise has practically nothing to do with weight, diet is the only factor worth considering.


  • #28
    Dakotabigone
    Site Banned Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    The 5% fat mince is more expensive. She wouldn’t be able to buy her wine then.


  • #29
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    SSr0 wrote: »
    Fat people are gross.

    I wouldn't say that but it just shows a person lacks discipline. That's all it is making the healthy choice 80% of the time and been consistent.


  • #30
    Genesis Thankful Stadium
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Genesis Thankful Stadium


    bop1977 wrote: »
    Make operation transformation a junior cert subject. Get them before they become to fat.

    I don't think making crash diets a jc subject will help anyone


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  • #31
    SSr0
    Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭SSr0


    rob316 wrote: »
    I wouldn't say that.

    I would. I don't know what annoys me more, having to look at a severely obese person trying to waddle around a shop and fill their trolley with ****e, or having to listen to their pity parade as to why they do it.


  • #32
    GAA Beo
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    Eastern Europeans I meet and see out and about all seem to be in better shape than us, particularly the women are thin. What are they doing diet wise? They like a drink too. It seems to be Brits/Irish/Yanks that are the worst affected.

    We also drink less than our grandparents generation I would imagine. Looking at past generations pictures and it's striking how there were no fatties.


  • #33
    rgodard80a
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭rgodard80a


    Encourage people to drink more water.
    Oh wait... they're going to tax people for using too much water.

    Take the free travel passes off the unemployed, make them walk more.


  • #34
    Your Face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I'm not concerned, the world needs prop forwards.


  • #35
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,434 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    fermanagh_man wrote: »
    We have just become lazier as a nation, along with The UK
    Smart phones and technology playing a key part.

    Cars and SUVs are playing a key part. There are people apparently allergic to walk or cycle more than 50m under their own steam.


  • #36
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    SSr0 wrote: »
    I would. I don't know what annoys me more, having to look at a severely obese person trying to waddle around a shop and fill their trolley with ****e, or having to listen to their pity parade as to why they do it.
    I only see that on American tv shows.


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  • #37
    Dakotabigone
    Site Banned Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Cars and SUVs are playing a key part. There are people apparently allergic to walk or cycle more than 50m under their own steam.

    That pcp is only promoting obesity.


  • #38
    Deub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭Deub


    Cantine in every school with a menu prepared by dietitians.


  • #39
    SSr0
    Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭SSr0


    Marvin Flabby Twinkle wrote: »
    I only see that on American tv shows.

    Good stuff, I see it in my local Dunnes/Tesco.


  • #40
    PARlance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,333 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    GAA Beo wrote: »
    Eastern Europeans I meet and see out and about all seem to be in better shape than us, particularly the women are thin. What are they doing diet wise? They like a drink too. It seems to be Brits/Irish/Yanks that are the worst affected.

    Marcin and Magda don't go for a curry cheese chip and batter burger after their drink. Diet.


  • #41
    GAA Beo
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    SSr0 wrote: »
    I would. I don't know what annoys me more, having to look at a severely obese person trying to waddle around a shop and fill their trolley with ****e, or having to listen to their pity parade as to why they do it.
    Wait until we have people here on their fat scooters going round the shops like the Yanks in Walmart


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  • #42
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    LirW wrote: »
    Ban breakfast cereal, problem solved.
    "Problem solved"? Even though there would still be masses of other foods even higher in calories. Also which breakfast cereal? A bowl of high fibre cereal like Bran Flakes is obviously better than a bag of Doritos.
    ED E wrote: »
    Exercise has practically nothing to do with weight, diet is the only factor worth considering.
    It does if you run and lift weights regularly.


  • #43
    Dakotabigone
    Site Banned Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    And after they have their child got the 5 for €2 sausage rolls it’s straight to the drinks section for a bottle of coke and complete the breakfast with a bar of chocolate. Sorry two, one for the child and one for the parent.
    Stuffing their faces then inside in their new pcp duster.


  • #44
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    SSr0 wrote: »
    Good stuff, I see it in my local Dunnes/Tesco.
    They give you their pity parade?


  • #45
    GAA Beo
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    PARlance wrote: »
    Marcin and Magda don't go for a curry cheese chip and batter burger after their drink. Diet.
    I think they don't drink as much pints either, they prefer spirits I think.


  • #46
    SSr0
    Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭SSr0


    Marvin Flabby Twinkle wrote: »
    They give you their pity parade?

    Yup, I'm a very approachable person.


  • #47
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    GAA Beo wrote: »
    Eastern Europeans I meet and see out and about all seem to be in better shape than us, particularly the women are thin. What are they doing diet wise? They like a drink too. It seems to be Brits/Irish/Yanks that are the worst affected.

    We also drink less than our grandparents generation I would imagine. Looking at past generations pictures and it's striking how there were no fatties.

    Very strong gym culture in eastern Europe. Polish eat alot of simple home cooked food.


  • #48
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Dakotabigone wrote: »
    And after they have their child got the 5 for €2 sausage rolls it’s straight to the drinks section for a bottle of coke and complete the breakfast with a bar of chocolate. Sorry two, one for the child and one for the parent.
    Stuffing their faces then inside in their new pcp duster.

    Ugh a duster :( I'd rather walk


  • #49
    freshpopcorn
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    rob316 wrote: »
    Very strong gym culture in eastern Europe. Polish eat alot of simple home cooked food.

    Isn't there average life expectancy lower than ours tough?

    Now I know quality of life/etc are factors.


  • #50
    GAA Beo
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 195 ✭✭GAA Beo


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Those poor people again what can be done with them
    They do say this is affecting less well off people and the working classes more. I suppose the D4s won't be as affected with their soy lattes, veganism and the cycling to the office....:pac:

    Then again McDonalds was packed out in Dun Laoghaire last time I was there.


  • #51
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    Isn't there average life expectancy lower than ours tough?

    Now I know quality of life/etc are factors.

    By a few years but as you said many factors effect that.


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