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Dublin Coach Experience Discussion Thread

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  • #52
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I would hazard a guess most of the vehicles DC are using are leased also.

    Sure its the same guy who had them originally.

    I know the 142 tri axles were got to take use of a big tax break where they were on city tours for approximately 12 months.

    The vehicles that replaced them are 2003 ex double decks from the UK and more suited as open top.

    The vehicles as I mentioned are in very bad condition and am extremely surprised they pass a cvrt road test.


  • #53
    Dyr
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    I think dublin coach are a victims of their own success and are also being swamped by the upsurge of cheapskate tourism that airbnb is pulling into the country

    That said, I got a Bus Eireann bus from Doolin to Ennis for 15 bills and a dublin coach bus from Ennis to Dublin for the same price on a better quality coach.

    Really shows the malaise in the semi state.


  • #54
    boardsuser1
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    Bambi wrote: »
    I think dublin coach are a victims of their own success and are also being swamped by the upsurge of cheapskate tourism that airbnb is pulling into the country

    That said, I got a Bus Eireann bus from Doolin to Ennis for 15 bills and a dublin coach bus from Ennis to Dublin for the same price on a better quality coach.

    Really shows the malaise in the semi state.

    Big contrast in the wages of both drivers.


  • #55
    Dyr
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    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    Big contrast in the wages of both drivers.

    there sure is, and both wages are a disgrace but at the opposite ends of the spectrum

    but I suspect the big difference between dublin coach and bus eireann is the wages of the 5 other guys that are just clogging up space in bus eireann


  • #56
    boardsuser1
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    Bambi wrote: »
    there sure is, and both wages are a disgrace but at the opposite ends of the spectrum

    but I suspect the big difference between dublin coach and bus eireann is the wages of the 5 other guys that are just clogging up space in bus eireann

    Before the strike I knew a few Bus Eireann drivers who were on €43k a year before tax with overtime extra for a 45 hour week.

    Dublin Coach drivers are on €115 a day before tax, and they work until their shift is done regardless of how long it takes.

    The private industry is a race to the bottom.


  • #57
    devnull
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    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    Dublin Coach drivers are on €115 a day before tax, and they work until their shift is done regardless of how long it takes.

    The private industry is a race to the bottom.

    So essentially you're saying Dublin Coach are about €115 a day and can be long shifts and Aircoach is about €140 and tends to be better duties.

    Do you know how that compares with other privates? Just curious to gauge where those two operators would fit on the overall scale.


  • #58
    Shpudnik
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    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    When i was driving the Aircoach if someone had no seat they had to get back off the coach.

    Anything bus or coach with standing passengers can do no more than 65 km/h, roughly 40mph.

    I've never seen anyone standing on a coach journey, no doubt it has happened somewhere in the country though.

    I've had it happen before on Dublin Coach. Coming out of Dublin on evening and there was a Hugo crowd for the bus. In the end there was about 4 people sitting on the steps the whole way to Kildare. And we were doing well over 65.


  • #59
    boardsuser1
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    devnull wrote: »
    So essentially you're saying Dublin Coach are about €115 a day and can be long shifts and Aircoach is about €140 and tends to be better duties.

    Do you know how that compares with other privates? Just curious to gauge where those two operators would fit on the overall scale.

    I drove the Aircoach and would honestly say I really enjoyed it, no messing about, as I mentioned in an earlier post. My day was no longer than 9 hours unless I had a breakdown, which never happened thankfully.

    Aircoach and Dublin Coach are at completely different ends of the spectrum.

    In part because of First owning Aircoach and they have much more financial clout.

    Is it possible to make this thread jointly about both companies to get feedback from passengers who have used both services?

    As a driver I rarely see Aircoach looking for drivers, Dublin Coach everyday, that tells you who treats their employees that bit better.

    Even the H/R management in DC is regularly rotating, they can't hang onto staff, the guy who interviewed me was the bones of 10 years younger than me and I'm only 32.

    I should also mention that DC pay a €15 allowance every week for cleaning and fuelling the coach.

    They have no cleaning facilities down here, they park next to the Aircoach Depot, who don't offer much if any assistance to my knowledge.

    If someone gets sick on the coach, there's no mop and water to clean it up.

    Aircoach pay the best of the privates.

    Paddywagon pay €90 a day excluding Sundays.


  • #60
    Matthew Gleeson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Matthew Gleeson


    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    This is still in service with Aircoach and is actually in very good condition for a 2005.

    Wouldn't be surprised if it ends up with DC when withdrawn from service.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/90331239@N02/17669928716/in/album-72157645097712755/

    Nice! Was on the chinese import today 'Kinglong' I think, was no legroom on it and I'm not tall haha. Whats the process out of interest to get into driving buses? :)


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  • #61
    boardsuser1
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    Matthew Gleeson wrote: »
    Nice! Was on the chinese import today 'Kinglong' I think, was no legroom on it and I'm not tall haha. Whats the process out of interest to get into driving buses? :)

    I actually like the King long's from a driver point of view.

    Never a passenger on one.

    To get the licence you need the following;

    Full category B licence.

    Do theory test for category D (ensure you have 2 passport photos + public services card).

    Get medical completed by your GP.

    Apply for category D learner permit.

    Do 2 driver CPC theory tests, one is 100 questions, the other is multiple choice case studies.

    Driving lessons.

    Sit and pass driving test + cpc show and tell (walk around checks).

    Apply for full driving licence for category D

    Apply for digital tachograph card.

    All in it cost me €2500 when i did it 5 years ago.

    Licence for professional drivers is only valid for 5 years, cost €55 euro.

    CPC's annually for the rest of your professional driving career average €50 per module.

    As i have a dual licence (bus and truck) it costs me €300 in cpc's alone every 5 years :mad:

    Once you complete all of the above you can then apply for your driver cpc card to the RSA, it's free of charge for a first one. €50 for a replacement.


  • #62
    devnull
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    Matthew Gleeson wrote: »
    Nice! Was on the chinese import today 'Kinglong' I think, was no legroom on it and I'm not tall haha.

    The King Long has an interesting story behind it, being that Dublin Coach ordered it and stated what colour they wanted and it was delivered in completely the wrong colour so they had to re-paint it it themselves, unsure if they paid or they made King Long do it.

    Thing that always got me about that bus is the orange stripe going the whole way along the bus on the side of it that lights up in the dark, and the many needless LEDs and blue lights that are on the coach, it looks very tacky in my opinion and the leg-room is bad as you say.

    King Longs are very cheap though and generally their exterior designs are based on copying other brands exteriors quite closely, their attraction is that on the face of it at first glance, they offer a premium looking and specified coach at a very good price.


  • #63
    boardsuser1
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    devnull wrote: »
    The King Long has an interesting story behind it, being that Dublin Coach ordered it and stated what colour they wanted and it was delivered in completely the wrong colour so they had to re-paint it it themselves, unsure if they paid or they made King Long do it.

    Thing that always got me about that bus is the orange stripe going the whole way along the bus on the side of it that lights up in the dark, and the many needless LEDs and blue lights that are on the coach, it looks very tacky in my opinion and the leg-room is bad as you say.

    King Longs are very cheap though and generally their exterior designs are based on copying other brands exteriors quite closely, their attraction is that on the face of it at first glance, they offer a premium looking and specified coach at a very good price.

    The power plant in them is great though, a Cummins engine.

    The same as the Former Bus Eireann Bombardier/GAC city type KC class.


  • #64
    john boye
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    One of the 03 tridents on tours downed tools outside AIB on Dame Street this evening. That and the maintenance van parked in behind it brought traffic to a crawl and caused a lot of strife for DB drivers trying to access the stop there.


  • #65
    Stephen15
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    I find odd that everyone complains about they're the fact that the buses are ancient 03 or 04 when DB and BE's older vehicles of a similar vintage and no one complains about them


  • #66
    boardsuser1
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    I find odd that everyone complains about they're the fact that the buses are ancient 03 or 04 when DB and BE's older vehicles of a similar vintage and no one complains about them

    The BE ones are in better nick thanks to the tax payer. Dublin Coach aren't so fortunate to have a bottomless pit of money effectively.


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  • #67
    schemingbohemia
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    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    As i have a dual licence (bus and truck) it costs me €300 in cpc's alone every 5 years :mad:

    Or 16 cent a day......


  • #68
    boardsuser1
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    schemingbohemia wrote: »
    Or 16 cent a day......

    You actually went to the bother of working that out :eek:

    Factor in the €55 for the licence every 5 years.

    €50 for the medical.

    €45 for the digi card if online or €60 in the post which i do.

    €6 for passport photos for the cpc card.

    It's still cheap, are we up to the 20c per day mark yet :pac:


  • #69
    bk
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    I find odd that everyone complains about they're the fact that the buses are ancient 03 or 04 when DB and BE's older vehicles of a similar vintage and no one complains about them

    In fairness there are so many 03 and 04's left, DB has a pretty young fleet overall and the older coaches mostly only a few hours a day (peak times) and of course city services put on far less mileage (lots of stuck in traffic).

    These intercity coaches on the other hand work very hard lives, running intercity distances 24/7 for years on Aircoach/Stagecoach and now continue to work long distance all day long.

    I'd imagine the mileage on these is in the millions and many times higher then a DB bus. Not really an apples to oranges comparison.


  • #70
    devnull
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    I find odd that everyone complains about they're the fact that the buses are ancient 03 or 04 when DB and BE's older vehicles of a similar vintage and no one complains about them

    I don't think there is much of a comparison.

    The mileage on Dublin Bus and Bus Eireann vehicles would be quite a bit less than the vehicles of a similar age operating for private operators, and the private operators would almost fully operate the same timetable 7 days a week, 364 days a year and are operating 24 hours a day in the case of Aircoach and can be doing approx 1,000km a day.

    Compare that to Dublin Bus who would have a large number of vehicles off the road at weekends and bank holidays and don't operate at all between midnight and 6am apart from a dozen buses doing a couple of journeys a week on a nitelink and the fact that outside peak a fair percentage of their fleet is also off the road, and you have a totally different situation.


  • #71
    soundman45
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    I applied for a job as a driver with them months ago. Heard nothing back for a few weeks then got a call one afternoon looking for me to attend an interview at 9am next day. I said I couldn't make it due to commitments in my current job, they guy lost the plot with me and slammed down the phone and I never heard from them again, can only imagine how they treat guys that work there and they have adds on jobs website almost every day looking for drivers.


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  • #72
    boardsuser1
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    soundman45 wrote: »
    I applied for a job as a driver with them months ago. Heard nothing back for a few weeks then got a call one afternoon looking for me to attend an interview at 9am next day. I said I couldn't make it due to commitments in my current job, they guy lost the plot with me and slammed down the phone and I never heard from them again, can only imagine how they treat guys that work there and they have adds on jobs website almost every day looking for drivers.

    Yes Stephen isn't a nice person.


  • #73
    dense
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    schemingbohemia wrote: »
    Are people standing? That's illegal on those buses as far as i'm aware.

    They're not licensed for standing passengers.
    Sounds like maintenance is an issue too.
    And adherence to route licensing criteria sounds woeful.

    The RSA is supposed to audit their maintenance regime and vehicle servic history and the NTA their route obligations. Doesn't look like any of it's being done from the reports here.


  • #74
    punisher5112
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    I wish they would turn off their engines when sitting at terminus anything up to 40 minutes early.

    I'm actually surprised with a company on the big for cost savings that they don't have them make sure its off to save on fuel....


    Quite possible if they do turn them off though it would be an inevitable break down maybe.


  • #75
    boardsuser1
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    I wish they would turn off their engines when sitting at terminus anything up to 40 minutes early.

    I'm actually surprised with a company on the big for cost savings that they don't have them make sure its off to save on fuel....


    Quite possible if they do turn them off though it would be an inevitable break down maybe.

    When i worked in the buses that was a big issue with my employer.

    If i went as much as a mile off route on a private hire i'd be asked questions and told pay for the diesel.


  • #76
    thelad95
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    I wish they would turn off their engines when sitting at terminus anything up to 40 minutes early.

    I'm actually surprised with a company on the big for cost savings that they don't have them make sure its off to save on fuel....


    Quite possible if they do turn them off though it would be an inevitable break down maybe.

    In Kilkenny, one of the stops is right in front of a secondary school. Last summer, the bus arrived too this stop and after passengers got on and off, the poor driver couldn't get the bus going again. Sat there for about fifteen minutes with the engine chugging away hoping to get it going again, when the principal of the school came out. In classrooms about thirty feet away from the bus, there was students sitting leaving cert exams.

    Driver rang whoever in Dublin coach too explain the situation and after getting an earful from the principal, he then got an earful from whoever was on the phone (loudspeaker) saying to leave the engine running. At this point, the driver hung up on your man mid sentence and went outside and had a fag. I really do pity the poor drivers!

    Eventually a replacement bus was sent after waiting for about another hour. By this stage, many had just given up and gotten on the kavanaghs bus to Dublin which leaves from the same stop.


  • #77
    dense
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    I wish they would turn off their engines when sitting at terminus anything up to 40 minutes early.

    I'm actually surprised with a company on the big for cost savings that they don't have them make sure its off to save on fuel....


    Quite possible if they do turn them off though it would be an inevitable break down maybe.

    Yes it may save some fuel but multiple start ups during the day can be stressful on engine and electrical components.


  • #78
    boardsuser1
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    Shut downs and restarts can actually use up more fuel than letting it run idle, depending on how long of course.


  • #79
    dense
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    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    Shut downs and restarts can actually use up more fuel than letting it run idle, depending on how long of course.

    And if you've a bus (or truck) with a million miles in it, regularly switching it on and off is looking for trouble IMO.


  • #80
    boardsuser1
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    dense wrote: »
    And if you've a bus (or truck) with a million miles in it, regularly switching it on and off is looking for trouble IMO.

    110%

    I did it one day in a king long, took me an eternity and nearly a flat battery to get it going.


  • #81
    punisher5112
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    dense wrote: »
    Yes it may save some fuel but multiple start ups during the day can be stressful on engine and electrical components.

    Not so unless from yonks ago as set up on them they use capacitor system to get the kick for the start in a lot of newer stuff.

    No reason for engine to be left running and if its a case they won't start again and that's given as a reason that's ridiculous.

    Its now a safety and a maintenance issue and if that's their stance I would worry how bad the vehicles maintenance really is as from what I see they are in bits.


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  • #82
    mickmmc
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    Who is winning the bus war between Aircoach and Dublin Coach on Dublin Belfast route? What are passengers numbers like on the Dublin-Belfast route for Dublin Coach?

    I travelled with Aircoach from Dublin Airport to Belfast recently.

    Aircoach leave Glengall street at 17:30 and Dublin Coach leave at 17:35, for example. I observed that Dublin Coach arrived 10mins ahead of departure and the coach pulled in ahead of Aircoach at the Europa stop. They can then pick up the walk ups ahead of Aircoach. It really is an aggressive approach by Dublin Coach.

    Aircoach have a customer service employee at the bus stop now. Things could heated at that bus stop.


  • #83
    boardsuser1
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    mickmmc wrote: »
    Who is winning the bus war between Aircoach and Dublin Coach on Dublin Belfast route? What are passengers numbers like on the Dublin-Belfast route for Dublin Coach?

    I travelled with Aircoach from Dublin Airport to Belfast recently.

    Aircoach leave Glengall street at 17:30 and Dublin Coach leave at 17:35, for example. I observed that Dublin Coach arrived 10mins ahead of departure and the coach pulled in ahead of Aircoach at the Europa stop. They can then pick up the walk ups ahead of Aircoach. It really is an aggressive approach by Dublin Coach.

    Aircoach have a customer service employee at the bus stop now. Things could heated at that bus stop.
    In my experience they always have them at the stops.


  • #84
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    mickmmc wrote: »
    Who is winning the bus war between Aircoach and Dublin Coach on Dublin Belfast route? What are passengers numbers like on the Dublin-Belfast route for Dublin Coach?

    I travelled with Aircoach from Dublin Airport to Belfast recently.

    Aircoach leave Glengall street at 17:30 and Dublin Coach leave at 17:35, for example. I observed that Dublin Coach arrived 10mins ahead of departure and the coach pulled in ahead of Aircoach at the Europa stop. They can then pick up the walk ups ahead of Aircoach. It really is an aggressive approach by Dublin Coach.

    Aircoach have a customer service employee at the bus stop now. Things could heated at that bus stop.

    It was pretty predictable that it would happen like that though.

    Soon as they announced the service I guessed it would be the case such things are commonplace in similar style bus wars in the UK where competing services are arriving around about the same time as each other at the same bus stops.


  • #85
    punisher5112
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    So many said privately run services would be better but not from my experience and what I see.


  • #86
    devnull
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    So many said privately run services would be better but not from my experience and what I see.

    But one company and peoples opinions of it are not necessarily representative of the whole private sector.


  • #87
    bk
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    So many said privately run services would be better but not from my experience and what I see.

    From my experience of private operators they are VASTLY superior to BE.

    I'm sorry but there simply is no comparison between Aircoach/GoBE to Cork and the crappy old x8.

    Citylink to Galway was also a pleasure to use.

    BE couldn't even bother operating a bus between Cork and Dulin after 6pm and it use to take 4.5 hours! Now we have aircoach operating hourly almost 24/7 with a 3 hour journey time and goes to the airport and toilets on board.

    They are so much better then BE's service it isn't even funny!


  • #88
    brokenarms
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    mickmmc wrote: »
    Who is winning the bus war between Aircoach and Dublin Coach on Dublin Belfast route? What are passengers numbers like on the Dublin-Belfast route for Dublin Coach?

    I travelled with Aircoach from Dublin Airport to Belfast recently.

    Aircoach leave Glengall street at 17:30 and Dublin Coach leave at 17:35, for example. I observed that Dublin Coach arrived 10mins ahead of departure and the coach pulled in ahead of Aircoach at the Europa stop. They can then pick up the walk ups ahead of Aircoach. It really is an aggressive approach by Dublin Coach.

    Aircoach have a customer service employee at the bus stop now. Things could heated at that bus stop.

    There is no coach and busman comradely from those Aircoach lads. They are absolute savages on the road. Which utilmatley holds them up.

    I have stopped trying a accommodate them in the buslanes on my bus runs as they will cut me up and box me in given any chance at all.


  • #89
    JCX BXC
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    Dublin coach are not much better, points given for being a little more direct on some routes (unless you want to go from Cork to Dublin, via Waterford (shudder)) but for reliability they're shocking.


  • #90
    Tockman
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    I find them a lot better service then bus Eireann, the most arrogant bus drivers who care not for the general public.


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  • #91
    devnull
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    All - please do not feed the trolls - Thanks! :)

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  • #92
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    My experience with Dublin Coach wasn't great.

    I used them twice, from Dublin airport to Tralee and back. At the airport, I was first taken aback by the poor condition of the coach. I boarded the service and the driver was eating on the bus, he told me I should have gotten the Portlaoise bus before his. Yet his bus was the one I was booked on. He was acting as if he was doing me a favour.

    Anyway, I got on the second bus at the Red Cow, it was a Mercedes coach if I recall. It was a very comfortable coach to travel in but it was filthy and at one point we stopped with what looked like an overheating issue. On the way home, I was in a clapped out Setra but it ran fine.

    So I'm back to taking the train to Tralee instead. They have to do better than that. A far cry from Citylink, who are outstanding from my experience.


  • #93
    boardsuser1
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    Karsini wrote: »
    My experience with Dublin Coach wasn't great.

    I used them twice, from Dublin airport to Tralee and back. At the airport, I was first taken aback by the poor condition of the coach. I boarded the service and the driver was eating on the bus, he told me I should have gotten the Portlaoise bus before his. Yet his bus was the one I was booked on. He was acting as if he was doing me a favour.

    Anyway, I got on the second bus at the Red Cow, it was a Mercedes coach if I recall. It was a very comfortable coach to travel in but it was filthy and at one point we stopped with what looked like an overheating issue. On the way home, I was in a clapped out Setra but it ran fine.

    So I'm back to taking the train to Tralee instead. They have to do better than that. A far cry from Citylink, who are outstanding from my experience.

    What year was the Merc?

    Most likely a Mercedes tourismo!

    The Setra is almost certainly ex Aircoach, millions of kilometres on those. They are wrecked.

    You're right about citylink.

    Those Vanhool's are nice.


  • #94
    Quackster
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    The most compelling thing I can say in support of Dublin Coach's Dublin/Tralee service is try making the same journey with Bus Éireann!! :eek:


  • #95
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    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    What year was the Merc?

    Most likely a Mercedes tourismo!
    I can't remember to be honest but it was back in February when I took the trip.
    Quackster wrote: »
    The most compelling thing I can say in support of Dublin Coach's Dublin/Tralee service is try making the same journey with Bus Éireann!! :eek:
    I haven't taken the 12 and 13 for years but yes, it was hell! About 6 hours if I recall. :eek:


  • #96
    devnull
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    There was a group of cyclists protecting the Cycle Lane from Dublin Coach services near Custom House today, never seen that before, has there been some issues with compliance in relation to parking down there or something?

    https://twitter.com/IBIKEDublin/status/897378695018672128

    I also found this whilst looking at twitter to see if I could find anything more on it

    https://twitter.com/NiamhTraynor/status/897152439010426884


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  • #97
    punisher5112
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    They have been doing this on different streets to highlight safety and so on.


  • #98
    bk
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    Last week in Cork, I saw a driver smash out with a bin, the outer half of one of the rear windows of 04 D 34313, the ex-Aircoach blue Setra that Dublin Coach are now using!

    I assume it had gotten damaged, rather then him just taking out his frustration!


  • #99
    howiya
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    devnull wrote: »
    There was a group of cyclists protecting the Cycle Lane from Dublin Coach services near Custom House today, never seen that before, has there been some issues with compliance in relation to parking down there or something?

    https://twitter.com/IBIKEDublin/status/897378695018672128

    I also found this whilst looking at twitter to see if I could find anything more on it

    https://twitter.com/NiamhTraynor/status/897152439010426884

    It's a 24 hr cycle lane but there are regularly coaches parked in it from a variety of companies. Dublin Coach's Belfast service being a regular offender. The white line is continuous so no other vehicles should be parked in it. There are also markings for a bus stop at the Custom House (DB stop 407) and double yellow lines along the quay.

    Obviously DB scheduled services have to pull in across the cycle lane and serve the stop but from the tone of the groups tweets they seem to be more agitated by coaches using Custom House Quay as a coach park


  • #100
    LXFlyer
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    howiya wrote: »
    It's a 24 hr cycle lane but there are regularly coaches parked in it from a variety of companies. Dublin Coach's Belfast service being a regular offender. The white line is continuous so no other vehicles should be parked in it. There are also markings for a bus stop at the Custom House (DB stop 407) and double yellow lines along the quay.

    Obviously DB scheduled services have to pull in across the cycle lane and serve the stop but from the tone of the groups tweets they seem to be more agitated by coaches using Custom House Quay as a coach park

    Like so many other locations around Dublin City Centre, too many bus/coach services have been licensed to serve that stop. They need to move some of the services to another location that doesn't impact on cyclists.


  • #101
    _Kaiser_
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    LXFlyer wrote: »
    Like so many other locations around Dublin City Centre, too many bus/coach services have been licensed to serve that stop. They need to move some of the services to another location that doesn't impact on cyclists.

    Or.. Cyclists should realise that there's more than just their needs to be catered for and there's only so much space to go around. Perhaps they should request the Council to take another look at the situation instead?

    A bit of common sense and give and take from both sides would seem to be a more practical solution than confrontational protests and irritated drivers/passengers.


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