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Road to Tokyo 2020 - Irish Olympic News

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    11:36 in the 100m final for second place, so the Irish record survives for another little while at least. Ran in the winning relay team as well. Terrible weather conditions for it today though.

    And 23:03 in the 200m final for second again. Really consistent running.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Sanita only third in World Cup in Lucerne. What looked like a nailed on gold last year is no longer the case one year on. Had a terrible feeling this would happen.

    LM2x won at a canter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Sanita only third in World Cup in Lucerne. What looked like a nailed on gold last year is no longer the case one year on. Had a terrible feeling this would happen.

    The <new> Russian will win and Sanita will win silver. Sanita and Irish rowing happy with her performance today as she’s later to the programme than the others

    The lightweight double will ease to gold if it not injured or ill

    Important not to read too much into World Cup races in an Olympics year. It’s all about peaking for Tokyo


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Irish Sports Follower


    Huge performance from Ronan Byrne and Phillip Doyle this morning finishing a close second-place in the World Cup event. We can now categorise them as genuine medal contenders again.

    Also, at the European Swimming Championships, the Irish men's medley relay team apparently took a giant step towards Olympic qualification by making the European final. They race again tonight in the final and will hope to go faster again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,159 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Dodge wrote: »
    The <new> Russian will win and Sanita will win silver. Sanita and Irish rowing happy with her performance today as she’s later to the programme than the others

    The lightweight double will ease to gold if it not injured or ill

    Important not to read too much into World Cup races in an Olympics year. It’s all about peaking for Tokyo

    What is up with Sanita? Was she sick or injured earlier this year?


  • Registered Users Posts: 359 ✭✭Oldira


    Strazdas wrote: »
    What is up with Sanita? Was she sick or injured earlier this year?

    Nothing other than the fact she’s 39 and probably conserving energy for Tokyo. Unfortunately I think the postponement of the games has cost her Gold. Hopefully she gets a medal of some sort.


  • Registered Users Posts: 359 ✭✭Oldira


    Anyone know how we are doing in terms of overall numbers compared to previous years - any prospect of this being our largest ever team or anything like that? Having a full hockey squad going may help towards that.

    If both our swim relay teams qualify, I think there is an excellent chance our team will hit 100. Depends on how many athletes and boxers make the cut even a conservative figure of 10 and 3 respectively then 100 is near nailed on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Decent first day at the boxing qualifiers - five Irish fighters in action and all five won their bouts. That puts each of them one win from Olympic qualification, although there's a suggestion that Michaela Walsh's win today by itself may have given her enough ranking points to qualify regardless of how she does from here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,159 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Decent first day at the boxing qualifiers - five Irish fighters in action and all five won their bouts. That puts each of them one win from Olympic qualification, although there's a suggestion that Michaela Walsh's win today by itself may have given her enough ranking points to qualify regardless of how she does from here.

    A great start in fact. Hopefully the likes of Harrington and Walsh can win their way straight through now and don't need any backdoor route or to win a box off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Something of a reversal of fortunes with the boxers today - 0 wins from three bouts unfortunately. George Bates was the closest, a win for him would have qualified him for Tokyo but he was beaten by a split decision after a poor final round.

    Four more to come later this evening, hopefully things will turn around for the team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭swim2


    Two relay swim Teams also qualified today for Tokyo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,159 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Kellie Harrington qualifies for Tokyo.....well done to her


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Great win there for Kellie Harrington against a French boxer with a really good record. She's off to Tokyo.

    That's great news about the swimmers also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Great comeback win from Aoife O'Rourke there (or Awoofie as she was repeatedly called by the BBC commentator) and she's off to Tokyo as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,159 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Great performance from Aoife O'Rourke to qualify for the Games against the Polish boxer and No.4 seed Wojcik. Lost the opener but came back with two barnstorming rounds to win comfortably in the end....fair play to her.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Great comeback win from Aoife O'Rourke there (or Awoofie as she was repeatedly called by the BBC commentator) and she's off to Tokyo as well.

    The Scottish co-commentator correcting him was also miles off with his 'Effa' pronunciation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,159 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Great comeback win from Aoife O'Rourke there (or Awoofie as she was repeatedly called by the BBC commentator) and she's off to Tokyo as well.

    Really gutsy stuff, didn't panic at all after losing the opening round and kept pilling forward - Polish girl looked knackered in the end.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Great comeback win from Aoife O'Rourke there (or Awoofie as she was repeatedly called by the BBC commentator) and she's off to Tokyo as well.
    The brits and Americans really struggle with Irish names

    She's from great stock. Great grand daughter of Dan O'Rourke who coached Roscommon to senior football All-Irelands in 1943/44 and he was also the president of the GAA (1946-1949) she's also a decent footballer herself and younger sister Lisa is a boxer as well and will be hoping to follow in Aoifes foot steps.

    First Roscommon Olympian since Dr Martin Feely in the 70s for rowing (he's been in the news and on TV plentiful the last year)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Would be interesting to see a county by county breakdown of the qualifiers once they're all known, with a bigger squad this year there should be a decent spread. Would be great (albeit unlikely) to have all 32 counties represented. I'm sure someone somewhere will do one before the Olympics start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,159 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The brits and Americans really struggle with Irish names

    She's from great stock. Great grand daughter of Dan O'Rourke who coached Roscommon to senior football All-Irelands in 1943/44 and he was also the president of the GAA (1946-1949) she's also a decent footballer herself and younger sister Lisa is a boxer as well and will be hoping to follow in Aoifes foot steps.

    First Roscommon Olympian since Dr Martin Feely in the 70s for rowing (he's been in the news and on TV plentiful the last year)

    I was very impressed with her fitness levels btw. The Polish girl was blowing hard and looked exhausted in the third round whilst Aoife was fresh as a daisy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,159 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    And we have another Tokyo qualifier. Michaela Walsh comfortably outboxes Stephanie Thour of Sweden to win the ticket straight through.....well done to her.

    Edit : and now joined by her brother Aidan on the flight to Tokyo. It's been a fantastic 24 hours for the team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Must be looking at somewhere north of 90 now for the team once the athletics team is finalised. Has been a really good weekend for the boxers and also with the confirmation of the swim relay teams.


  • Registered Users Posts: 359 ✭✭Oldira


    Must be looking at somewhere north of 90 now for the team once the athletics team is finalised. Has been a really good weekend for the boxers and also with the confirmation of the swim relay teams.

    I still think it will top 100 but that’s depending on a good few athletes qualifying. Also a shooter and gymnast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭flynng


    Carolyn Hayes guaranteed a spot in Tokyo for Triathlon after her 10th in Leeds today. Well done!

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4317605648284320&id=180216932023233


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Seems like there may be an issue with the men's freestyle relay team qualification - the invitation announcement may have been premature and they may not actually be invited to compete.

    Still to be clarified either way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Seems like there may be an issue with the men's freestyle relay team qualification - the invitation announcement may have been premature and they may not actually be invited to compete.

    Still to be clarified either way.

    The announcement wasn’t premature. They are very careful about this. They received an official invitation from FINA. It’s the medley team, not the freestyle. That’s not in doubt at all

    The issue may have been that FINA didn’t invite Greece but Swim Ireland weren’t premature. They revived the invite and announced it

    It’ll probably end up with 17 teams in two events (Switzerland are involved too).

    The bigger issue will be the balls up they made about diving. We could have anything between 0 and 3 divers based on interpretation of their own contradictory rules


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Statement from swim ireland. Place was offered, accepted and then rescinded. They’re going with legal action...

    https://twitter.com/swimireland/status/1401895481588977667?s=21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭brendanwalsh


    Sinead diver gets her spot on the Aussie team.
    Absolutely disgraceful what the Irish team did to her. She would have been our best chance of a medal in a long time


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭dr.kenneth noisewater


    Sinead diver gets her spot on the Aussie team. Absolutely disgraceful what the Irish team did to her. She would have been our best chance of a medal in a long time


    What did they do? Always sounded like it was easier her to run for Oz as she lived there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Sinead diver gets her spot on the Aussie team.
    Absolutely disgraceful what the Irish team did to her. She would have been our best chance of a medal in a long time

    To be fair Sinead has absolutely no chance of a medal

    I’m not commenting on how she was treated but she won’t be near a medal


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    It seems like the relay swimmers may be relying on goodwill from FINA here. Ultimately they're being invited to someone else's party and if the organisers no longer want them there they can presumably rescind the invite. Olympic pools are 10 lanes wide so they could possibly, in theory, squeeze them in, but it all feels a bit like Team 33 at the world cup after the Henry handball. Someone else's mistake, but we end up paying the price for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    It seems like the relay swimmers may be relying on goodwill from FINA here. Ultimately they're being invited to someone else's party and if the organisers no longer want them there they can presumably rescind the invite. Olympic pools are 10 lanes wide so they could possibly, in theory, squeeze them in, but it all feels a bit like Team 33 at the world cup after the Henry handball. Someone else's mistake, but we end up paying the price for it.

    It’s not really. They offered the invitation and ireland accepted it in good faith. There’s even a bit of precedence for Ireland when we were invited to the Winter Olympics because they forgot about Australia. Both nations threaten to sue and both nations ended up going...

    In better news, Michelle Finn just ran a qualifying time at 3000m steeplechase


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,159 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Yet another boxing qualifier : Emmet Brennan wins his box off after a ferocious battle with a Swede and a knife edge decision and gets the ticket to Tokyo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭jamule


    What did they do? Always sounded like it was easier her to run for Oz as she lived there

    They didn't really do anything to her. They had a higher standard than the Q for the worlds, she got the standard, they said no, she was pissed, australlia atletics said yeah, she ran for austrailia.

    Given the lack of forward thinking at the best of times, AAI were not going to change their qualifying time for a 33yr old that never ran in ireland or was ever on their radar.

    Saying that if she was coached by Bideau back in 2013 the opposite would have happened!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Updated state of play

    https://www.balls.ie/olympics/updated-list-of-every-irish-athlete-qualified-for-the-summer-olympics-410870

    The world judo championship is happening now. Tough draw for Megan Fletcher but even one win might be enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,159 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Kellie Harrington wins the Olympic qualifier gold medal bout against the GB boxer Dubois with a high class performance. I believe she will now be the No.1 seed in Tokyo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭brendanwalsh


    jamule wrote: »
    They didn't really do anything to her. They had a higher standard than the Q for the worlds, she got the standard, they said no, she was pissed, australlia atletics said yeah, she ran for austrailia.

    Given the lack of forward thinking at the best of times, AAI were not going to change their qualifying time for a 33yr old that never ran in ireland or was ever on their radar.
    !

    The adjustment of the qualifying time was nasty. She was the only Irish person to reach it iirc. Our best long distance runner runs for Australia, you couldn’t make it up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Kellie Harrington wins the Olympic qualifier gold medal bout against the GB boxer Dubois with a high class performance. I believe she will now be the No.1 seed in Tokyo.

    She’ll likely be number 2. The world champion from Brazil will be number 1. Haven’t finished my calculation but Kellie can’t catch the Brazilian


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,159 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Dodge wrote: »
    She’ll likely be number 2. The world champion from Brazil will be number 1. Haven’t finished my calculation but Kellie can’t catch the Brazilian

    Oh right, but that's still pretty decent. She looks in fantastic shape anyway, peaking at a perfect time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Oh right, but that's still pretty decent. She looks in fantastic shape anyway, peaking at a perfect time.

    Actually I misread the document. As there’s no qualifying tournament for America the Brazilian is automatically seeded number 3 (as are all the top ranked American qualifiers)

    Kellie is indeed number 1 seed in Tokyo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    Our best long distance runner runs for Australia, you couldn’t make it up

    She has lived in Australia for over 20 years and only took up any form of Athletics less than 10 years ago, there is nothing to make up here, it makes perfect sense that she is running for Australia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Pogue eile wrote: »
    She has lived in Australia for over 20 years and only took up any form of Athletics less than 10 years ago, there is nothing to make up here, it makes perfect sense that she is running for Australia.

    It’s also not that big a deal in terms of results. She might be top 20 at the Olympics. Fionnuala McCormack was 20th at the last one and it barely registered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,159 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Dodge wrote: »
    Actually I misread the document. As there’s no qualifying tournament for America the Brazilian is automatically seeded number 3 (as are all the top ranked American qualifiers)

    Kellie is indeed number 1 seed in Tokyo.

    Better again then and she looks worthy of the No.1 seeding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    jamule wrote: »
    They didn't really do anything to her. They had a higher standard than the Q for the worlds, she got the standard, they said no, she was pissed, australlia atletics said yeah, she ran for austrailia.

    Given the lack of forward thinking at the best of times, AAI were not going to change their qualifying time for a 33yr old that never ran in ireland or was ever on their radar.

    Saying that if she was coached by Bideau back in 2013 the opposite would have happened!

    That's not true. They only changed the standard from 2:43 to 2:33:30 after Sinead indicated she wanted to compete for Ireland in Beijing 2015 Worlds, having already bagged a 2:34 in late 2014. It was a deliberate ploy to avoid having to pick her. For Rio the next year, the qualification standard was back down to 2:45 or so.

    It's indefensible.

    Sinead wanted to run for Ireland. She always presumed she would, saying "I'm Irish after all".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Pogue eile wrote: »
    She has lived in Australia for over 20 years and only took up any form of Athletics less than 10 years ago, there is nothing to make up here, it makes perfect sense that she is running for Australia.

    There are tons or articles online about this. Sinead wanted to run for Ireland. I've even heard her say it to me in the flesh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Dodge wrote: »
    It’s also not that big a deal in terms of results. She might be top 20 at the Olympics. Fionnuala McCormack was 20th at the last one and it barely registered

    There's more to the Olympics than medals, or top 8 placings. Sinead's story is truly inspiring. Athletics Ireland could have milked her big time. Their loss.

    Had the Olympics been last year, I think Sinead could have hit top 8. Not sure what impact the extra year will have. Sinead in 2019 v Fionnuala in 2016 though is no comparison. Sinead was in much better form. Fionnuala has stepped up though since in the marathon and hopefully can threaten a top 10.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    There's more to the Olympics than medals, or top 8 placings. Sinead's story is truly inspiring. Athletics Ireland could have milked her big time. Their loss.

    Had the Olympics been last year, I think Sinead could have hit top 8. Not sure what impact the extra year will have. Sinead in 2019 v Fionnuala in 2016 though is no comparison. Sinead was in much better form. Fionnuala has stepped up though since in the marathon and hopefully can threaten a top 10.
    A couple of days ago, someone here said Ireland lost its best medal hope. She has no hope of a medal. That was my point.

    I don’t believe her story is that inspiring, and I don’t believe AI would have or could have milked it. It’s a strawman argument either way now as it won’t change. I actually think she got more press here by running for Australia but again, that can’t be proved either way

    You and others are more qualified to comment on how she was treated. I know she was unhappy with it (from what I’ve read) but so be it. She’s decided to run for Australia and that’s that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Dodge wrote: »
    A couple of days ago, someone here said Ireland lost its best medal hope. She has no hope of a medal. That was my point.

    I don’t believe her story is that inspiring, and I don’t believe AI would have or could have milked it. It’s a strawman argument either way now as it won’t change. I actually think she got more press here by running for Australia but again, that can’t be proved either way

    You and others are more qualified to comment on how she was treated. I know she was unhappy with it (from what I’ve read) but so be it. She’s decided to run for Australia and that’s that

    I took it to mean our best hope of a medal we've ever had in the women's marathon, as no other meaning could have made sense. Of course, she has zero chance of a medal, but she'd certainly have been our best prospect of a high placing in the women's marathon for a few decades.

    I find her story very inspiring, so we'll agree to disagree there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Dodge wrote: »
    Updated state of play

    https://www.balls.ie/olympics/updated-list-of-every-irish-athlete-qualified-for-the-summer-olympics-410870

    The world judo championship is happening now. Tough draw for Megan Fletcher but even one win might be enough

    I see she finished 5th at the World Championship. Hopefully enough to get her to the Olympics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    I see she finished 5th at the World Championship. Hopefully enough to get her to the Olympics.

    Making the last 16 meant she was safe. A very good day for her. Beat 2 women ranked above her


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