Did you order cattle tags....

whelan2 · 16-01-2017 8:16pm

grassroot1 wrote: »

Has he wrapped a new powerwasher for your present:D

spent the day powerwashing actually. Old power washer though

pedigree 6 · 16-01-2017 8:21pm

whelan2 wrote: »

That link wont load for me. They got 8.5 million from the dept of ag in 2015.

I looked at the link they got 2.2million from the dept of ag for 2015.

Apologize to the poor feckers.;)

The scandal is averted.

Bullocks · 16-01-2017 8:26pm

pedigree 6 wrote: »

I looked at the link they got 2.2million from the dept of ag for 2015.

Apologize to the poor feckers.;)

The scandal is averted.

There's noting poor about any fecker that got 2.2 million from the govt

pedigree 6 · 16-01-2017 8:32pm

Bullocks wrote: »

There's noting poor about any fecker that got 2.2 million from the govt

Does anyone here have any experience of running an organization like this or is everyone here just living up to the typical mean h**r farmer who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

It seems that all the opposition is from suckler farmers. Why?

whelan2 · 16-01-2017 8:37pm

pedigree 6 wrote: »

I looked at the link they got 2.2million from the dept of ag for 2015.

Apologize to the poor feckers.;)

The scandal is averted.

Will go back and look tomorrow, 8.5 million is the figure I saw somewhere, maybe it was for a different year.

whelan2 · 16-01-2017 8:55pm

Figerty wrote: »

https://www.icbf.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/ICBF-Annual-Report-Final.pdf

Page 11 is interesting... 890,000 from tags..

page 31 of the above link pedigree 6

charolais0153 · 16-01-2017 9:00pm

pedigree 6 wrote: »

It seems that all the opposition is from suckler farmers. Why?

I asked the auld lad when I was filling out the form would I give it to them just to see what he said "we're bad enough without giving them more"
You don't hear of lads with sucklers going out to France skiing:D:D:D:D

pedigree 6 · 16-01-2017 9:05pm

charolais0153 wrote: »

I asked the auld lad when I was filling out the form would I give it to them just to see what he said "we're bad enough without giving them more"
You don't hear of lads with sucklers going out to France skiing:D:D:D:D

Sell a bull and maybe you can too.;)

Oh don't mind me.:D

The woe is me attitude just annoys me sometimes.

whelan2 · 16-01-2017 9:21pm

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Does anyone here have any experience of running an organization like this or is everyone here just living up to the typical mean h**r farmer who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

It seems that all the opposition is from suckler farmers. Why?

Been over this before you're repeating yourself. Plenty of experience of it here, reread this thread

charolais0153 · 16-01-2017 9:23pm

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Sell a bull and maybe you can too.;)

Oh don't mind me.:D

The woe is me attitude just annoys me sometimes.

He's already sold without being advertisedðŸ˜ŽðŸ˜Ž

pedigree 6 · 16-01-2017 9:46pm

whelan2 wrote: »

page 31 of the above link pedigree 6

From that page I'm getting 1,996,258 from the Dept.

It's not massive. I wouldn't mind being on the committee, although?

whelan2 · 16-01-2017 9:57pm

pedigree 6 wrote: »

From that page I'm getting 1,996,258 from the Dept.

It's not massive. I wouldn't mind being on the committee, although.

On pg 31 on MINE IT SAYS RECEIVED 1/1/15 FROM DEPT OF AG 8.464 MILLION sure whats 6million of a difference

pedigree 6 · 16-01-2017 10:03pm

whelan2 wrote: »

On pg 31 on MINE IT SAYS RECEIVED 1/1/15 FROM DEPT OF AG 8.464 MILLION sure whats 6million of a difference

You're reading it wrong. Good job you're not my accountant.:eek:

Look at the balance coming in and the balance going out and then the two figures in the middle. One is direct from the gov but that can't be used directly so it goes into the pot and the figure in brackets is what is used during the year.

Edit: I thought you're out on the lash. What are you bothering with this for?

Edit: Actually looking at it again it's 998,129 in total on that page.
The rest of the money from the gov is made up of suckler scheme costs and NDP for the year.
It comes out at about 2 million though.

patsy_mccabe · 16-01-2017 10:06pm

pedigree 6 wrote: »

..... It seems that all the opposition is from suckler farmers. Why?

You can't give what you don't have.:D

pedigree 6 · 16-01-2017 10:17pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

You can't give what you don't have.:D

It must be uncomfortable lying on that mattress.:p

Bullocks · 16-01-2017 11:19pm

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Does anyone here have any experience of running an organization like this or is everyone here just living up to the typical mean h**r farmer who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

It seems that all the opposition is from suckler farmers. Why?

Oh God , I wouldn't have experience anyhow :P

I suppose the suckler boys oppose paying it mostly because no matter how progressive their breeding practice is the profit is still crap

charolais0153 · 16-01-2017 11:56pm

Bullocks wrote: »

Oh God , I wouldn't have experience anyhow :P

I suppose the suckler boys oppose paying it mostly because no matter how progressive their breeding practice is the profit is still crap

I was just thinking there that a bull with a good terminal index more than likely as good carcass weight but if that animal is going to be 40kg heavier than his comrade at slaughter he's going to get cut for weight. You'd wonder at times

Zr105 · 17-01-2017 12:17am

Dunedin wrote: »

Anyone else have any comments on the tagger?

It's a fair lump of a tagger, makes the Alflex look a bit of a toy.
I like the fact it closes in a straight line towards each other rather than curving in like the alflex. The big bonus with it in my eyes tho is that you don't have to mess about changing the pin in and out, and it also seems to seal up the sample when you tag rather than having to open those stupid vials and then trying to snap them shut on the sampler.
I was going to pick up a standard tagger off eBay this year to have 2 so there was no swapping but decided to go with cormac and get the fee tagger instead, they arrived in about 10/11days from the day I posted the order off and looks good but haven't used any yet as won't be starting calving till end of month

jfh · 17-05-2019 11:51am

thinking of changing from mullinhone, what are cormac like for service?
whats the lead time with tags from date of ordering?
thanks

whelan2 · 17-05-2019 12:02pm

jfh wrote: »

thinking of changing from mullinhone, what are cormac like for service?
whats the lead time with tags from date of ordering?
thanks

How do lads find cormac tags for empty bvd samples?

blue5000 · 17-05-2019 12:03pm

jfh wrote: »

thinking of changing from mullinhone, what are cormac like for service?
whats the lead time with tags from date of ordering?
thanks

Also what's the replacement rate like per year? Running at around 15% per yr here with Mullinahole.

alps · 17-05-2019 12:28pm

whelan2 wrote: »

How do lads find cormac tags for empty bvd samples?

Havnt had an empty one...using with 2 years now

Limestone Cowboy · 17-05-2019 12:49pm

jfh wrote: »

thinking of changing from mullinhone, what are cormac like for service?
whats the lead time with tags from date of ordering?
thanks

You'll have the tags in a couple of days after ordering. Find them great to deal with. Haven't replaced a cormac tag yet. Third year using them now.

KatyMac · 17-05-2019 12:55pm

This is only my first year using them, but they came very fast when ordered. And, don't know if it is imagination or not, but they seem sharper going into ear so the animal makes no fuss. BVD samples (touch wood) have all worked too. I'm happy so far!

Buford T. Justice XIX · 17-05-2019 1:05pm

whelan2 wrote: »

How do lads find cormac tags for empty bvd samples?

alps wrote: »

Havnt had an empty one...using with 2 years now

I had only 2 over the years with Mullinahone, having 3 or 4 every year with Cormac.

I'm hoping that the extra cost from retesting will be more than covered by Cormac tags not breaking with every gust of wind. 3 years in now and no replacement tags needed yet so looking good so far?

Bullocks · 17-05-2019 1:10pm

blue5000 wrote: »

Also what's the replacement rate like per year? Running at around 15% per yr here with Mullinahole.

I ordered Monday night ( online) and they came yesterday.
We haven't replaced any Cormac tags so far. We would have been replacing at least 10% of Mullinahole tags and paying for replacements. They are free with Cormac

Bullocks · 17-05-2019 1:11pm

We have no empty samples either thank Jaysus.

Bullocks · 17-05-2019 1:35pm

The 3 replacement tags came aswell. I think mullinahone used only send them separately so twice the postage

jfh · 17-05-2019 3:47pm

it was out of sheer laziness that i didn't change, just set up an account there, not as troublesome as i was thinking. ordered tags 1st week of may, no sign yet & according to the mullinhone agent, it mightn't be next week either, 15 business days lead time:eek:

Lady Haywire · 17-05-2019 3:57pm

jfh wrote: »

it was out of sheer laziness that i didn't change, just set up an account there, not as troublesome as i was thinking. ordered tags 1st week of may, no sign yet & according to the mullinhone agent, it mightn't be next week either, 15 business days lead time:eek:

Took over 2 weeks from tags ordered to get here. Seriously thinking about changing to Cormac from next year. Not alone does the quality seem better but their customer service is fantastic. They even sent me a hat, despite not using their tags (yet!) :pac:

grassroot1 · 17-05-2019 8:28pm

Took 3 week for tags from Mullinahone in February took 3 days in May
Customer service with them is unbusiness like

oldsmokey · 17-05-2019 11:35pm

grassroot1 wrote: »

Took 3 week for tags from Mullinahone in February took 3 days in May
Customer service with them is unbusiness like

My last year with mullinahones crappy products, breaking endlessly, aggrsvation of ordrring, paying for and applying secondly. Arrogant arses in mullinahone office couldnt care less. Cormac here i come

Millionaire only not · 17-05-2019 11:50pm

Spending a fortune on tags , Dept inspection today and I’m still in trouble nothing thought or even looked at all the replacement tags I have purchased just the the one tag that I didn’t &#55357;&#56877;

Millionaire only not · 17-05-2019 11:54pm

I find Mullinhone tags very poor this year all together . I’m really thinking of changing
There so poor even when they clip in

Track9 · 18-05-2019 12:56am

Same issue here with Mullinahone Tags .
Cattle drop at lest 4/5 tags per yr .
Lots of admin & steep postage costs.

Im another lazy one which is why i didnt move ( think i may have been put by cost of new tagger circa 30 euro )

whelan2 · 18-05-2019 5:36am

Track9 wrote: »

Same issue here with Mullinahone Tags .
Cattle drop at lest 4/5 tags per yr .
Lots of admin & steep postage costs.

Im another lazy one which is why i didnt move ( think i may have been put by cost of new tagger circa 30 euro )

Do cormac not have a deal if you buy so many tags the taggers are free?

whelan2 · 18-05-2019 5:42am

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Spending a fortune on tags , Dept inspection today and I’m still in trouble nothing thought or even looked at all the replacement tags I have purchased just the the one tag that I didn’t ��

I had an inspection last week. You are allowed a certain amount of animals with one tag. An animal with 2 missing tags would be a major error. I had a good few with one tag and had tags ordered for them. The ordered tags have to actually be in your possession. I won't get fined. Have 30 days to order and put in the rest of the tags I need.

Millionaire only not · 18-05-2019 6:00am

I’m afraid I have one with 2 missing that’s my problem tossed in with a late return of movement by 2 days

longgonesilver · 18-05-2019 5:57pm

Millionaire only not wrote: »

I’m afraid I have one with 2 missing that’s my problem tossed in with a late return of movement by 2 days

Is that the only animal missing a tag?

It's worked on percentages and whether one tag or two.

I used to have a copy of the guidelines for applying the penaltys but it could be out of date. it could take a while to find. Does any one know are they published online?

If you are found to be non-complaint there is also a yellow card system in place now, if this is your first time and fines are implemented on a stepped basis.

Was the movement in or out?

Donegalforever · 18-05-2019 7:40pm

oldsmokey wrote: »

My last year with mullinahones crappy products, breaking endlessly, aggrsvation of ordrring, paying for and applying secondly. Arrogant arses in mullinahone office couldnt care less. Cormac here i come

The person I spoke to in Mullinahone recently was less than friendly.
I told her that when tagging a calf with the Tissue Tag, the tag broke. I got the impression that I was bothering her (and I had to pay for a replacement Button Tag).

Millionaire only not · 18-05-2019 10:45pm

Movement was in

whelan2 · 19-05-2019 6:09am

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Movement was in

Isn't the buyer supposed to post the form or do the notification. BTW I always post the form and I'm the seller as I know it's done. Last time I was in the post office there was a local farmer getting a certificate of postage for a movement cert. I don't even put a stamp on mine when posting them

Buford T. Justice XIX · 19-05-2019 10:02am

whelan2 wrote: »

Isn't the buyer supposed to post the form or do the notification. BTW I always post the form and I'm the seller as I know it's done. Last time I was in the post office there was a local farmer getting a certificate of postage for a movement cert. I don't even put a stamp on mine when posting them

Yeah, the buyer is responsible for notifying the movement.

But the sellers ar$e is over the fire until they can prove there's a valid reason for the calf being on their CMMS but not in their herd.

Did you order cattle tags....

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