Interstellar (Christopher Nolan) SPOILERS FROM POST 458 ONWARDS

Sad Professor · 20-04-2019 2:18am

Dades wrote: »

I think it's a bit of stretch to call it a rip off. There's a lot of common concepts in sci fi - e.g. unknown signal from space - that doesn't mean every variation is a rip off of the most well known treatment.

I agree. To be clear, though, I didn’t say it was a rip off but a “riff”, ie a distinct variation or take on 2001.

Roger Hassenforder · 20-04-2019 10:52am

Arrival was another great recent scifi

PhiloCypher · 20-04-2019 12:21pm

To me Interstellar was like season 2 of Westworld. Great cast, great direction, some great individual episodes/sequences. But just didn't cohere in a satisfactory way in the end.

The White Wolf · 20-04-2019 3:52pm

shamrock55 wrote: »

I really just don't get the whole thing about him being behind the bookcase, movie was great up to that point

It went off the wall at that point but what I think they were getting at is that love pulled Cooper across space and time back to his family. A peculiar take but that's what makes Nolan great in that he takes these chances and pushes the button beyond being generic

BloodBath · 20-04-2019 4:02pm

santana75 wrote: »

I saw this when it was released and I have never had a cinematic experience like it before or since. It just moved me to the core of my being and I was telling everyone to go see it, which they did and their responses where very much underwhelming. For whatever reason it seems to be a film that speaks deeply to some but does very little for others(one friend even said he fell asleep after 20 minutes). Its kind of like cloud atlas in that it didnt get a lot of attention at the time but has since started to gain recognition. I mean in years to come nobody will remember Avengers Infinity war or captain marvel, they'll be forgotten and disposed of just like most winners of the x-factor are disposed of and forgotten shortly thereafter. But just like subsequent generations continue to discover the Beetles or led zeppelin, in 10 years time people will still be drawn to Interstellar.

Not a chance, it get's worse with repeated viewings like a lot of Nolan's movies.

The most over rated Sci-Fi movie in recent times along with Gravity. Nobody will remember this movie in 10 years time.

I wouldn't put it in the top 50 Sci-Fi movies.

Ipso · 20-04-2019 5:23pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

It went off the wall at that point but what I think they were getting at is that love pulled Cooper across space and time back to his family. A peculiar take but that's what makes Nolan great in that he takes these chances and pushes the button beyond being generic

SuprSi · 20-04-2019 5:34pm

BloodBath wrote: »

Not a chance, it get's worse with repeated viewings like a lot of Nolan's movies.

The most over rated Sci-Fi movie in recent times along with Gravity. Nobody will remember this movie in 10 years time.

I wouldn't put it in the top 50 Sci-Fi movies.

We're almost 5 years in and this thread is alive and well.

micks_address · 20-04-2019 5:46pm

BloodBath wrote: »

Not a chance, it get's worse with repeated viewings like a lot of Nolan's movies.

The most over rated Sci-Fi movie in recent times along with Gravity. Nobody will remember this movie in 10 years time.

I wouldn't put it in the top 50 Sci-Fi movies.

I always find it funny when people say a movie is worse on repeat viewings...if you don't like it the first or second time why would you keep watching it?

BloodBath · 20-04-2019 8:02pm

I did like it the first time. It's a good movie but a classic it ain't. I loved inception but again it doesn't hold up to repeat viewings.

I have watched Alien, Aliens, Terminator 1-2, Blade Runner, Star Wars etc many times and enjoy it every time. Maybe that's Nostalgia but I'm not the only 1.

micks_address · 20-04-2019 8:06pm

BloodBath wrote: »

I did like it the first time. It's a good movie but a classic it ain't. I loved inception but again it doesn't hold up to repeat viewings.

I have watched Alien, Aliens, Terminator 1-2, Blade Runner, Star Wars etc many times and enjoy it every time. Maybe that's Nostalgia but I'm not the only 1.

I'd say interstellar has the scale and grandeur to be hailed a classic.. I watched it again recently in 4k hdr and it's mesmerizing.. the soundtrack is awesome to . Whatever about the ending there are some grand themes at play.. I'd say it's up there in terms of classics.. it's weird I find some of the 80s stuff that absolutely blew me away as a teenager doesn't have nearly the same impact when I watch now...

Enzokk · 21-04-2019 7:34pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Nolan directed The Lion King and Gladiator?!

Ah I know what you mean though, that docking scene was a masterclass in editing. A whole different pallet of talents brought together with editing perfection. It's definitely my favourite score of Zimmer's, he and Nolan are such a perfect combo and Nolan definitely inspires and challenges Zimmer to progress like other directors don't.

I'm just happy to see this thread trending again as this is one of my favourite movies. It has its flaws and suffers from Nolan clunkiness in parts with the dialogue, but I can get past these for my own enjoyment.

I wouldn't dare dream of rating it in the sci-fi pantheon though, I haven't seen enough sci-fi movies to judge.

It is no coincidence that one director that has had a big influence on Nolan seems to be Terrence Malick and he seems to follow the same style when it comes to the musical score as Malick does. Now Malick absolutely destroys the work of the composer when it comes to the end product and you hardly have anything that they composed in the movie.

With that in mind it makes sense that Zimmer and Nolan has a great working relationship. I think Malick pushed Zimmer a lot and that made him a better composer as a result. It is also interesting that while both Nolan and Malick like their composers to bring them music without knowing what film they are scoring, Zimmer chose not to work with Malick again but has gone back again and again to work with Nolan.

Dades · 22-04-2019 12:52am

BloodBath wrote: »

Not a chance, it get's worse with repeated viewings like a lot of Nolan's movies.

The most over rated Sci-Fi movie in recent times along with Gravity. Nobody will remember this movie in 10 years time.

I wouldn't put it in the top 50 Sci-Fi movies.

Gravity is an example of incredible direction, and use of proper 3D. It wasn't sci fi but a contemporary space survival tale.

I bet most of the movies you'd suggest are better sci fi, involve no science at all.

Interstellar remains is a constant in Piratebay's top downloads (not an endorsement!) 5 years on. It is a classic, and yes, this generations worthy 2001. It endures for a reason.

mikhail · 22-04-2019 6:37am

The internet would be far more boring if everyone understood the difference between "I don't like it" and "It's bad".

Tired Gardener · 22-04-2019 8:30am

Bowlardo wrote: »

It is though....it is most certainly near the best sci FI ever made. Name 5 better sci FI movies
Blade runner
Space odyssey
Aliens

It was a good sci-fi film up until it morphed into a 'love will save you regardless of the situation'. The whole being sent back to be behind the bookshelf, and Murph working out the code and theory was too hamfisted. I left seeing the film annoyed, as the ending was such a cope out, that it undid the rest of the enjoyable experience that it had been up until that point.

For good sci-fi see:

Arrival,
Her,
Primer,
Moon,
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind,
Dune,
12 Monkeys,
Pi,

maryjane1970 · 22-04-2019 9:59am

So going into a black hole might not be so bad..!

Snake Plisken · 18-05-2019 6:36pm

Interesting analysis of Intersteller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ZCfmjzUZM

Hector Savage · 17-12-2019 3:43pm

good video ...

yerwanthere123 · 28-12-2019 3:59pm

Just watched this for the second time, enjoyed it a lot more than the first. Think it holds up very well with a repeat viewing, funny to read all the posts on here trying to pick it apart. Matthew McConaughey is great in this, and Jessica Chastain is amazing as always.

micks_address · 29-12-2019 10:44pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Just watched this for the second time, enjoyed it a lot more than the first. Think it holds up very well with a repeat viewing, funny to read all the posts on here trying to pick it apart. Matthew McConaughey is great in this, and Jessica Chastain is amazing as always.

Yes it's absolutely class in 4k with a good surround sound and TV setup

Drumpot · 13-08-2020 11:27pm

This is back on the big screen in swords. Just went to it again, seen it double digit amounts and it’s still glorious on the big screen. A highly enjoyable night at the cinema.. Just wonderful movie... if you liked it or haven’t seen it, it’s as superb as it was when I first saw it.

Effects · 13-08-2020 11:35pm

How are they handling social distancing there? Were you worried at all?

NIMAN · 13-08-2020 11:43pm

It was a film I rewatched recently too, having really thought it was very good initially.

Haven't really changed my mind on it. Yes it's still a very good film and has aged well, but the one thing that really stood out was his relationship with his daughter.

It was played out so much in the film, it was the main thing that affected him as he journeyed. Yet when he finally got back to see her after all those years he hung around for a few minutes then buggered off.

Was a weak conclusion for me, kind of belittled their complex relationship.

Drumpot · 14-08-2020 12:24am

Effects wrote: »

How are they handling social distancing there? Were you worried at all?

No issues or concerns with it. I’m a very cautious person so I don’t say it lightly.

There was only a few people in the screen , everybody kept a good distance, no chatting and a regimented system. Everybody wore masks in and out (could eat food in there).

Also cinema makes sure if you book tickets no seat is beside on front or behind you. I’m definitely going to go more.

Brock Turnpike · 14-08-2020 12:25am

NIMAN wrote: »

It was a film I rewatched recently too, having really thought it was very good initially.

Haven't really changed my mind on it. Yes it's still a very good film and has aged well, but the one thing that really stood out was his relationship with his daughter.

It was played out so much in the film, it was the main thing that affected him as he journeyed. Yet when he finally got back to see her after all those years he hung around for a few minutes then buggered off.

Was a weak conclusion for me, kind of belittled their complex relationship.

I'd agree with you on that. It felt really out of place that he just leaves are a few minutes.

It's still a beautiful movie. I've watched it a few times and the cinematography and soundtrack are stunning.

Drumpot · 14-08-2020 12:31am

NIMAN wrote: »

It was a film I rewatched recently too, having really thought it was very good initially.

Haven't really changed my mind on it. Yes it's still a very good film and has aged well, but the one thing that really stood out was his relationship with his daughter.

It was played out so much in the film, it was the main thing that affected him as he journeyed. Yet when he finally got back to see her after all those years he hung around for a few minutes then buggered off.

Was a weak conclusion for me, kind of belittled their complex relationship.

I actually watched it during the lockdown but it’s just not the same as it is on the big screen.

Really is epic. So many goose pimple moments , the wave , the clock ticking on that planet for every day lost, the score is just perfect, trying to redock after Mann’s ship blows the airlock, falling into gargantua... That’s just what’s coming to mind off the top of my head.

Two savage moments where when he’s leaving his family and checks to see if Murph is hiding again and when he starts watching videos of his children , over 23 years of footage and it starts to hit home what he missed. Also quite horrible when he’s watching Murph in the tesseract and regretting his decision to leave “don’t let me go Murph”. Maybe it’s cause I am a father myself but I found all
Those moments about missing out on so much with the Children to be powerful.

I enjoyed the experience so much, the end wasn’t a problem. Just a masterpiece of a movie. Few movies make a cinema going experience so good and worth going again.

eviltimeban · 14-08-2020 9:40am

It certainly whets the appetite for Tenet...

MfMan · 14-08-2020 10:10am

Drumpot wrote: »

This is back on the big screen in swords. Just went to it again, seen it double digit amounts and it’s still glorious on the big screen. A highly enjoyable night at the cinema.. Just wonderful movie... if you liked it or haven’t seen it, it’s as superb as it was when I first saw it.

Does it contain subtitles to assist with McConaughey's largely incoherent delivery?

Mark Hamill · 14-08-2020 10:41am

NIMAN wrote: »

It was a film I rewatched recently too, having really thought it was very good initially.

Haven't really changed my mind on it. Yes it's still a very good film and has aged well, but the one thing that really stood out was his relationship with his daughter.

It was played out so much in the film, it was the main thing that affected him as he journeyed. Yet when he finally got back to see her after all those years he hung around for a few minutes then buggered off.

Was a weak conclusion for me, kind of belittled their complex relationship.

Better he sit for a few minutes more and watch her die? He gets confirmation that he saved her life and that she lived a full life with a big loving family. He hadn't seen her in person for 60-70 years of her life and doesn't need to watch this old woman die.

eviltimeban · 14-08-2020 4:06pm

MfMan wrote: »

Does it contain subtitles to assist with McConaughey's largely incoherent delivery?

Didn't find that at all personally. If anything I found some of Michael Caine's dialogue hard to hear.

Brock Turnpike · 14-08-2020 5:24pm

Mark Hamill wrote: »

Better he sit for a few minutes more and watch her die? He gets confirmation that he saved her life and that she lived a full life with a big loving family. He hadn't seen her in person for 60-70 years of her life and doesn't need to watch this old woman die.

It's ok. You don't need to defend a weird plot point. Film is still Excellent overall.

nix · 14-08-2020 5:45pm

Mark Hamill wrote: »

Better he sit for a few minutes more and watch her die? He gets confirmation that he saved her life and that she lived a full life with a big loving family. He hadn't seen her in person for 60-70 years of her life and doesn't need to watch this old woman die.

Aye, she even says it to him, no father should have to watch their child die :pac:

I went to see this and Inception on the big screen recently too, seems a few theaters are doing a bunch of Nolans movies leading up to Tenet.

His movies will be timeless as he uses natural effects in his movies, like with Blade runner, it will still look incredible in 50+ years. He really is the best sfx driven director going forward now..

The Marvel movies for example are already looking fairly ropey, currently doing a rewatch of them in chronological order, GoTG is pretty solid still though in fairness to it, so might just be the phase 1 movies which might have aged poorly.

Sad Professor · 14-08-2020 7:20pm

I'd agree there's a lack of emotional pay off to their reunion. McConaughey is strangely restrained in the scene. I am not sure if he's playing it as a father not wanting to get upset in front of his dying daughter or if she's changed so much that he's lost his connection to her. Maybe a bit of both. The previous scenes are all about establishing that this isn't his home. His reunion with her only confirms this.

The White Wolf · 14-08-2020 8:33pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

I'd agree there's a lack of emotional pay off to their reunion. McConaughey is strangely restrained in the scene. I am not sure if he's playing it as a father not wanting to get upset in front of his dying daughter or if she's changed so much that he's lost his connection to her. Maybe a bit of both. The previous scenes are all about establishing that this isn't his home. His reunion with her only confirms this.

I interpreted it as the daughter helping the father back into existence is the ending. It's not so much a loss of connection but more a quiet preservation of what they had, and that there really is no need to prolong her death by trying to reconnect.

I only watched the film once mind, find it hard to rewatch.

eviltimeban · 15-08-2020 8:36am

The White Wolf wrote: »

I interpreted it as the daughter helping the father back into existence is the ending. It's not so much a loss of connection but more a quiet preservation of what they had, and that there really is no need to prolong her death by trying to reconnect.

I only watched the film once mind, find it hard to rewatch.

And of course, to him, his daughter is still a little girl, not an old woman. So it must've been hard for him to think that this was "his" Murph (even though it was).

"Interstellar 2: The Search for Murph" coming 2024!

Drumpot · 15-08-2020 9:19am

Sad Professor wrote: »

I'd agree there's a lack of emotional pay off to their reunion. McConaughey is strangely restrained in the scene. I am not sure if he's playing it as a father not wanting to get upset in front of his dying daughter or if she's changed so much that he's lost his connection to her. Maybe a bit of both. The previous scenes are all about establishing that this isn't his home. His reunion with her only confirms this.

What I couldn’t understand was how Murph knew about Brand being alone and that her dad would want to Strand himself with her. Maybe him flying off to get her makes sense (he’s not at home there) but her narrative on going to Brand always throws me a bit. Maybe they spoke a bit more then we see.

What I find funny ,connection importance aside , is how cooper made all the sacrifices and yet Murph is the hero. Cooper lost his children, battled a tidal wave, being choked to death, even went into a black hole to save his children and humanity and communicated the information needed to save everyone. Cooper read a watch Hand... :pac:

I actually thought Coops connection with Murph was wonderful and agree it wasn’t an emotional payoff at the end, but that prob wasn’t possible. Just before he’s rescued you see him watch different times of his daughter in his bedroom, it’s just heartbreaking imagining missing out on your children’s life. And then watching from behind a screen (in Tesserect and on the videos) is just torture.

The visuals in this Movie really are breathtaking, love how they created Gargantua and even the wormhole. Easily my favorite sci fi take on the science of space travel.

Sad Professor · 15-08-2020 10:39am

Drumpot wrote: »

What I couldn’t understand was how Murph knew about Brand being alone and that her dad would want to Strand himself with her. Maybe him flying off to get her makes sense (he’s not at home there) but her narrative on going to Brand always throws me a bit. Maybe they spoke a bit more then we see.

I am not sure but I think like the other astronauts who made landfall, Brand sent a homing beacon back to Earth. They probably received that around same time Cooper turned up. That plus his debriefing would given Murph a lot of info.

What I find funny ,connection importance aside , is how cooper made all the sacrifices and yet Murph is the hero. Cooper lost his children, battled a tidal wave, being choked to death, even went into a black hole to save his children and humanity and communicated the information needed to save everyone. Cooper read a watch Hand... :pac:

I actually thought Coops connection with Murph was wonderful and agree it wasn’t an emotional payoff at the end, but that prob wasn’t possible. Just before he’s rescued you see him watch different times of his daughter in his bedroom, it’s just heartbreaking imagining missing out on your children’s life. And then watching from behind a screen (in Tesserect and on the videos) is just torture.

When I think about it, that scene in the Tesseract is the main emotional payoff to their relationship. At that point he's resigned himself to being her "ghost".

santana75 · 15-08-2020 12:04pm

Saw it in Dundrum about 2 weeks ago having seen it only one other time and that was when it was originally released. Although it was only out in 2014 so 6 years isnt exactly back in the old timey days. I deliberately avoided seeing it again after the first time because for me it was such a profound experience I didnt want to spoil it by possibly watching it too much and getting sick of it. This time around I was blown away again. Even though this time I knew what would happen I still loved every second of it. What really stood out for me was the relationship between Cooper and Murph, it was the heart of the film. I see lots of people nit picking the science and trying to punch holes in it, but they've missed the meaning of the film completely. Its about a fathers bond with his daughter, the science is secondary. I also loved the character development of CASE and TARS. Like character development of two robots...........genius. By the end of the movie Cooper, CASE and TARS are like 3 cowboys out on the range just bantering with each other. In a way I'd love to see a sequel, y'know Cooper and TARS go looking for CASE and Brand. But at the same time I feel they should leave it be.

nix · 15-08-2020 7:20pm

santana75 wrote: »

Saw it in Dundrum about 2 weeks ago having seen it only one other time and that was when it was originally released. Although it was only out in 2014 so 6 years isnt exactly back in the old timey days. I deliberately avoided seeing it again after the first time because for me it was such a profound experience I didnt want to spoil it by possibly watching it too much and getting sick of it.

I'm the exact same, i couldnt bring myself to watch it on a TV screen, regardless of how much i loved the movie, i always kept an eye out for a cinema doing a reshowing of it as the years went by, which never happened until recently and i jumped at it.

It really needs to be seen on the biggest screen with the best sound possible to get the most out of it

Lefty2Guns · 18-08-2020 1:22pm

One of my favorite films.

First time watched it in the cinema which was class on the big screen. second time at home with the sub-titles on, just blew me away to be honest. Some of the dialogue i missed on the big screen that I captured with the sub-titles made me appreciate the film so much more.

Shred · 18-08-2020 3:34pm

It really is a fabulous film with such an emotional core at its centre and so much re-watchability. Love it.

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