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Mayweather to fight Tenshin Nasukawa on New Year's Eve in Tokoyo

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Christ, he'll be fighting Jedward next.
    Superb!

    Very curious fight and while Mayweather may be expanding his brand eastward one would wonder how long he will continue with these hybrid fights. He can be excused for the McGregor fight as there was a significant payday and it got him to the magical 50-0.

    For the reasoning for this "fight" I'm torn between money issues, competitiveness and influence from his entourage. From the outside he appears to be wading through money at a very good pace and these fights are keeping him going. Maybe there is a kernel of truth what 50 says!

    Secondly he doesnt drink and keeps himself in great shape and seeing how he has been fighting since childhood maybe it is just hard to turn it off. This might result in him mirroring Roy Jones' "longevity".

    Lastly his entourage need him and his money and he is not the sort of guy who has heard no too many times. Although it is hard to have sympathy for a convicted felon who beat his girl and who has all that money he is never boring!
    Think I speak for most in saying there are more important things to do than watch this New Years Eve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Floyd is apparently going to earn 88 million from this fight alone. Add in the benefits of the branding his new casino's in Tokyo will receive too and I think the reasoning is pretty clear. I can't really fault him for taking it to be honest. If people are mad enough to pay money to watch him fight these novelty fights then good on him for taking them. Biggest no brainer possible really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Is it true this will be in MMA gloves and the 1st round will be 10 minutes long ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,226 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Is it true this will be in MMA gloves and the 1st round will be 10 minutes long ?




    Those MMA gloves are tiny aren't they? Like having a bit of padding between your wraps



    Surely any boxer worth his salt would be knocking out fellas left right and centre with those.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    The MMA gloves harm the boxer chances in my opinion .
    Wven more so with Flyod than anyone else,

    Floyd whole game is built around defence , a lot of which he uses his gloves for , a lot of people go from boxing or Thai kickboxing end up getting sparked MMA as they are so used to moving there hand a certain distance to cover there face or side of head, all of a sudden that built in small movement is now not enough as the glove covers less surface and bang you get cracked with a shoot that a boxing glove would deflect .

    Also Flyod has hand problems for years , small gloves will not help that,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    ,
    People not in and around boxing don't realise even the shape of two boxing gloves the same Oz can make a difference ,Flyod has had issues before when an opponent wanted to wear a different brand of boxing glove, he normally has in the contract what brand they have to wear,

    Even the feel of hitting someone with a mma glove is different,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    walshb wrote: »
    Yeh.....Zab Judah, Ricky Hatton, a stale Mosley, Demarcus Corley, Slugger Maidana to name a few all hit him a fair bit....but Duran, Hearns and SRL?....not a chance for those ATGs...

    I dont remember Ricky land much (from my seat in the MGM :) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,226 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    The MMA gloves harm the boxer chances in my opinion .
    Wven more so with Flyod than anyone else,

    Floyd whole game is built around defence , a lot of which he uses his gloves for , a lot of people go from boxing or Thai kickboxing end up getting sparked MMA as they are so used to moving there hand a certain distance to cover there face or side of head, all of a sudden that built in small movement is now not enough as the glove covers less surface and bang you get cracked with a shoot that a boxing glove would deflect .

    Also Flyod has hand problems for years , small gloves will not help that,




    I understand that point. But the boxer must have great speed too. From what I've seen in MMA, the usually don't throw great punches. Although if your man is a kickboxer, maybe they are better.


    I remember getting in with 10oz competition gloves. Could have been adrenaline etc. but you'd seriously notice the speed. The coach would always give a few rounds with the 10oz on the pads coming up to the fight though so that you could feel the difference and it would be worlds apart. Going to MMA gloves must be another step entirely.


    I'd say the likes of mayweather could see the punch coming, go off and have his tea, come back and get the counter punch in before it lands :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,397 ✭✭✭xtal191


    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp49AUphcLu/
    Now that I am back on U.S. soil after a long and disappointing trip to Tokyo, I now have the time to address you, my fans and the media in regard to the upcoming event on December 31st that was recently announced. First and foremost, I want it to be clear that I, Floyd Mayweather, never agreed to an official bout with Tenshin Nasukawa. In fact (with all due respect) I have never heard of him until this recent trip to Japan. Ultimately, I was asked to participate in a 9 minute exhibition of 3 rounds with an opponent selected by the "Rizen Fighting Federation". What I was originally informed of by Brent Johnson of "One Entertainment" was that this was to be an exhibition put on for a small group of wealthy spectators for a very large fee. This exhibition was previously arranged as a "Special Bout" purely for entertainment purposes with no intentions of being represented as an official fight card nor televised worldwide. Once I arrived to the press conference, my team and I were completely derailed by the new direction this event was going and we should have put a stop to it immediately. I want to sincerely apologize to my fans for the very misleading information that was announced during this press conference and I can assure you that I too was completely blindsided by the arrangements that were being made without my consent nor approval. For the sake of the several fans and attendees that flew in from all parts of the world to attend this past press conference, I was hesitant to create a huge disturbance by combating what was being said and for that I am truly sorry. I am a retired boxer that earns an unprecedented amount of money, globally, for appearances, speaking engagements and occasional small exhibitions.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 398 ✭✭liamoreilly


    xtal191 wrote: »
    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp49AUphcLu/
    Now that I am back on U.S. soil after a long and disappointing trip to Tokyo, I now have the time to address you, my fans and the media in regard to the upcoming event on December 31st that was recently announced. First and foremost, I want it to be clear that I, Floyd Mayweather, never agreed to an official bout with Tenshin Nasukawa. In fact (with all due respect) I have never heard of him until this recent trip to Japan. Ultimately, I was asked to participate in a 9 minute exhibition of 3 rounds with an opponent selected by the "Rizen Fighting Federation". What I was originally informed of by Brent Johnson of "One Entertainment" was that this was to be an exhibition put on for a small group of wealthy spectators for a very large fee. This exhibition was previously arranged as a "Special Bout" purely for entertainment purposes with no intentions of being represented as an official fight card nor televised worldwide. Once I arrived to the press conference, my team and I were completely derailed by the new direction this event was going and we should have put a stop to it immediately. I want to sincerely apologize to my fans for the very misleading information that was announced during this press conference and I can assure you that I too was completely blindsided by the arrangements that were being made without my consent nor approval. For the sake of the several fans and attendees that flew in from all parts of the world to attend this past press conference, I was hesitant to create a huge disturbance by combating what was being said and for that I am truly sorry. I am a retired boxer that earns an unprecedented amount of money, globally, for appearances, speaking engagements and occasional small exhibitions.

    ...Thats the end of that chapter so...Highly doubt the Instagram post is true though...I'd say it was a case of fight agreed in principal but couldn't agree on rules...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,226 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    ...Thats the end of that chapter so...Highly doubt the Instagram post is true though...I'd say it was a case of fight agreed in principal but couldn't agree on rules...
    Nah, he just read boards.ie and realized that a fight against Jedward is where the big money is at


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    And its off!


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭miocicmma


    Nobody believes Floyd typed that IG post himself


  • Registered Users Posts: 398 ✭✭liamoreilly


    ...That's the end of that...Interesting exhibition...I know people were saying it's a joke fight etc, but it wasn't been classed as a proper fight...Its kinda like woods playing 6 holes in citywest, or Phil Taylor doing an exhibition...Onky difference is this was the last fight on a 13 card fight... Felt bad for Teshin, but was great to see Floyd in action, albeit briefly...


  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭earthwormjack


    ...Interesting exhibition

    Can't say I thought the same. It was a round of low intensity sparring against an amateur about 20lbs lighter. I feel bad for watching it and will just avoid similar things from mayweather in future.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Can't say I thought the same. It was a round of low intensity sparring against an amateur about 20lbs lighter. I feel bad for watching it and will just avoid similar things from mayweather in future.

    Aye Mayweather just walked thru Tenshin's bodyshots at one point and then tagged him, completely pointless contest. At least only wasted 150 seconds of my life watching it on youtube!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,397 ✭✭✭xtal191


    $9m for 150 seconds, not bad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    Just watched it and have to say what a ****ty human being mayweather is. Taking a ton of money for fighting an inexperienced kid half his size.
    All the while dancing and smiling as the kid struggles on the ground after being knocked for the third time. And don't get me started on that "TBE" emblem he wears on his hats and shorts, a f**in disgrace is all he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,656 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    How did they line that up? If Floyd doesn’t want to fight boxers then he needs to move into MMA, boxing an young inexperienced kick boxer makes no sense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,191 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Jebus he did not go easy on him, egotistical nasty yet entertaining all the same.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Either that kid took a dive or his chin is worse than Amir Khan’s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Makes no sense that he would take a dive. I'm sure he thought he would dance around the ring for 3 rounds with Floyd carrying him like he did with McGregor. His profile is raised, Floyd gets a **** load of money, everyone wins. That's what I thought would happen anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Johner wrote: »
    Makes no sense that he would take a dive. I'm sure he thought he would dance around the ring for 3 rounds with Floyd carrying him like he did with McGregor. His profile is raised, Floyd gets a **** load of money, everyone wins. That's what I thought would happen anyway.

    Ok his chin is worse than Amir Khan's then because Floyd barely landed on him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,226 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Ok his chin is worse than Amir Khan's then because Floyd barely landed on him




    I think either half of Jedward might actually have made a better attempt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭brendanwalsh


    He didn't take a dive. I'm shocked people think this was somehow fake. You can actually see exactly where Mayweather decides to knock him out.

    From the start of the video you can tell he's not taking it seriously. He's smiling, he's clearly trying to set the tone with TN. Hands down and acting up. He wants to goof around and collect a paycheck.

    At 0:40 FM throws a jab and a delayed straight that he doesn't expect to hit, then a slow straight again. At 0:48 TN counters him HARD and ducks out of the corner. FM did not expect that at all, and that's essentially when the fight starts.

    FM closes up his guard, starts pushing his jab out and starts measuring his space... exactly like he normally does in a real fight. Seriously, go watch him at the 0:30 mark and again at the 0:50 mark. It's two different fighters completely.

    Once he has his spacing, he starts throwing hooks around TN's guard. He connects 4 times behind TN's left ear in a row (with the one at 1:06 putting him down). Then switches and hits him with a right body/head hook at 1:42 that TN should not have gotten up from (seriously impressed that he did).

    Then at 2:04, 2:06, and 2:09 and he connects back behind TN's left ear again three times in a row. Any one of those could have put him out.

    Mayweather clearly thought this wasn't a real fight and Tenshin thought it was. Once Mayweather decided it was a real fight, he took him apart surgically in less than 2 minutes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Its a 122 pound fighter fighting at 147. Floyd probably wouldn't even need to land fully clean to hurt him..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,656 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Morrison J wrote: »
    Its a 122 pound fighter fighting at 147. Floyd probably wouldn't even need to land fully clean to hurt him..

    It’s a pro boxer v an amateur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    All I know is it's an event not worth analysing.

    Boxing has enough problems without this clown and his antics of late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    ted1 wrote: »
    It’s a pro boxer v an amateur.

    That too.

    Weight classes are there for a reason though. Floyd likely knocks out all the world champion 122 pounders in a round or two also. 6 weight classes of a difference. Thats why McGregor went rounds and this Tenshin guy got dispatched of. Not because he's chinny or taking a dive imo.

    People also forget that Floyd was a deadly puncher at super feather in his prime.


  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭earthwormjack


    The 2nd knock down was very heavy for a guy of tenshin's size. I wouldn't say 'it barely touched him'.


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    https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1079746173492232193
    LOL, Tenshin deserves a razzie award


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 seanboylan87


    Having watched the fight all I can think is - just how good is Joe Duffy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,226 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Having watched the fight all I can think is - just how good is Joe Duffy?




    Ah, he's fairly good on the oul' Liveline to give him his dues


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Full footage of the 'fight' here in case you missed it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    It was very very strange,
    No doubt Floyd could have ko'd him like he did but its how Tenshin bounces around that looks fake,

    One of the shots he takes is a left hook but instead of his heading going with the shot he shoots it directly backwards which is not where the force would send it,

    I always feel if something doesn't look right to your brain its probably not ,

    The way he bounces around on the ground but then gets up and his legs are not wobbly makes no sense


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