I've been drawn into talk of radio SETI, the whole nine yards.
I've been trying to think of peoples that might use Radio Seti as a strong first recource in their space programs.
People that have huge amounts of random signals that their chances of getting a signal out or in is an achivement in itself.
Peoples surrounded by loads of rocks and dust that a visual outside(or inside?) their own solar system is a complete non-runner.
Peoples with both those issues.
As I sit back and wait a little, along with our own endeavours. Are there lots of places in our galaxy for serious ****ers?