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HELP!!!!!! essay panic!!!!!!

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  • 27-10-2001 1:58am
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    Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭


    does anyone out there know ANYTHING about aristotle??????????

    it's due tuesday!!!! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    dammit, knew i should have gone to those lectures!!!

    bollixxxxxxxxxxxx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭decob


    Originally posted by beardedchicken
    does anyone out there know ANYTHING about aristotle??????????

    http://www.google.com/search?q=aristotle


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭b20uvkft6m5xwg


    Decob, you took the words out of my mouth:)

    Oh where would we be w/out google;)

    Just a quick bit of advice though "bearded" one....

    *Google is a brilliant essay resource NOT a ready made essay solution. Like the internet in General, you can always get the facts, but most of it is written very poorly, so use the information you get to put it into your own words. In other terms, dont plagerise, because....
    1. Its wrong but
    2. It instantly sets the alarm ringing in Lecturers internal "bullshít" metres!

    *Answer the question being asked. Dont go OT just bcos you've got loads of (prolly irrelevant) information all of a sudden on Aristotle

    ****NB****
    Dont use all the information (if it can be helped) from the 1st few sites that come up on a search engine. More than likely, other ppl from your class will have done the same and lecturers hate reading the same shíte again and again!

    Neway, hope it all goes well and gluck:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭DadaKopf


    Ahhh, Aristotle, the most boring philosopher ever. Well, except tonnes of others.

    Depends what the question is, Mr. Chicken. Where are you doing this course? I'm a philosophy student so I know some stuff but I hate Aristotle.

    Anyway, if you want books to read (and I presume you're doing the Nichomachean Ethics or De Anima), you could benefit from Bertrand Russel's History of Western Philosophy or something but it's pretty opaque reading, but for a decent, readable background, those picture guides, 'An Introduction to ...' are excellent.

    I'm not really into Aristotle but if yer stuck and you need good online resources, go to www.boxmind.com and use the search engine. It turns out excellent results and rates all the sites. Also, the The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy is really informative too.

    Hope that was of any help. Are you in UCD?


  • Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭decob


    Originally posted by 80project
    Decob, you took the words out of my mouth:)

    Oh where would we be w/out google;)

    I believe that if you can't find it on Google, then it doesn't exist :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭GoneShootin


    i formally used altavista
    now i use google

    its just the best :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭beardedchicken


    Thanks a mil for the help everyone, the evil stinky one is now dead! (well, printed and in my bag!!) where would i be without google myself!!the utter joy of it all! now i can go get drunk, or sleep, maybe sleep would be a better idea!!
    Originally posted by DadaKopf
    Ahhh, Aristotle, the most boring philosopher ever. Well, except tonnes of others.

    how very true, he tends to ramble on to no point whatsoever, and i'm supposed to decipher this bollox and write a 1500 word essay on it???? hence the panic and vomiting!! (well, the panic was aristotle, the vomiting was *all* my own fault!!) (*note to self* sambucca, yes, sambucca, bulmers, tequila, vodka+redbull, aftershock and pringles an emphatic no!!!!!) children.......NEVER mix your drinks! it's naughty, and if you do, the projectile vomit faries will come get you, and you will *not* be a happy camper!!

    Depends what the question is, Mr. Chicken.
    Ms.

    Where are you doing this course? Are you in UCD? yes, the ****hole of evil itself

    I'm a philosophy student so I know some stuff but I hate Aristotle. it's actually for politics, i don't know any stuff, and i also hate aristotle!!
    well, kids, i think it's time to make like a tree and go
    night!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭DadaKopf


    Ahhhh, why didn't you say you were a politics student? I suppose it's Iseult Honohan who's doing that course. If I had known it was for politics, I would have been able to help you.

    All you had to do was read the David Held book and refer to The Politics a bit. In fact, it was probably exactly the same question I did four years ago.

    And shut up dissin' UCD, it maybe a sh.thole but it's OUR sh.thole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭C B


    Originally posted by 80project

    Dont use all the information (if it can be helped) from the 1st few sites that come up on a search engine. More than likely, other ppl from your class will have done the same and lecturers hate reading the same shíte again and again!

    As someone who corrects essays and exams I can inform you that the above statement is pure bull****.

    The more similar answers are the easier it is to correct them.

    You are not going to write a brilliantly original, groundbreaking piece of work as and undergraduate. the best you can hope to do is display a good understanding of all the issues pertaining to the topic and do it as concisly as possible.

    Major rules for writing essays:
    Never write a sentence unless in contributes something to the essay which would be lacking without it.

    Never repeat yourself (except for the intro and conclusion)

    Show clearly in the introduction all your relevant points.

    Demonstrate clearly in your conclusion how you defended your relevant points.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭b20uvkft6m5xwg


    The more similar answers are the easier it is to correct them. You are not going to write a brilliantly original, groundbreaking piece of work as and undergraduate. the best you can hope to do is display a good understanding of all the issues pertaining to the topic and do it as concisly as possible.

    Well my friend I'm sure you would like the same shíte again and again so you can plomp a cosy 2:2 on it and thus ends any effort on your part but My advice was an attempt to help the Bearded one distinguish herself as oppossed to settling for something less. And BTW, since when do lecturers like reading shíte?? Because thats what your implying!!
    Major rules for writing essays:
    Never write a sentence unless in contributes something to the essay which would be lacking without it.
    Never repeat yourself (except for the intro and conclusion)
    Show clearly in the introduction all your relevant points.
    Demonstrate clearly in your conclusion how you defended your relevant points.

    While these rules are a good reference, where in fact did I contradict them in anything I said??

    Your attitude omits a sense of "settling for something less", "writing the same shíte as everyone else in your class is a good thing" as opposssed to differentiating your work, because thats what gets you a first. Believe me;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭C B


    I never suggested that somebody should write sh!te. What I said was that essays and exams are designed to test peoples ability to demonstrate a clear understanding of the all the issues relating to a particular subject (usually as outlined in lectures and recommended reading). Sticking to that is the easiest way to get a first.

    No undergrad is expected to undertake original research (except for minor theses etc.). It is unlikely that an undergrad would be able to show a level of knowledge which will impress a lecturer. What will impress a lecturer (remember the majority of lecturers have written doctorates and continue to publish research in the area they teach) is a comprehensive understanding of the implications of the small amount of knowledge imparted in the lectures.

    These are facts on how essays and exams are marked not educated guesses.

    So I think I'll believe my own opinion on what gets a first because in the end thats what actually counts, you can stick to your version if youy choose.

    BTW what course/year are you in in UCD.

    - edit - damn outdated signature


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,671 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Ah Aristotle, was not he the chap that gave a love of geography & exporation to Alexander.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭b20uvkft6m5xwg


    1st Up Conor....(if I may)
    My original advice to bearded was intended to be a little warning to not to just use google as being the font of all knowledge and just purely to plum for the 1st site that came up merely because it appeared 1st on a search engine. I didnt say lecturers dont like reading the same work again and again, I emphasised they dont like reading SHíTE again and again [big difference!]

    Seeing that your so interested in my personal life....

    I am in 4th Year Of Business and Legal Studies (Law Specialistion Mode) and after 3rd year (which counts towards my degree) I am on a First:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭C B


    fair play :)


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