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Buying vehicle from Copart Northern Ireland - no V5

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  • 05-07-2020 8:31pm
    #1
    Alanvtec
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭


    Hi guys, as the post says I have found a vehicle with some damage on Copart for sale but in the add under V5 it states none. Now I see a lot of vehicles for sale advertising no V5 so I'm wondering if I do buy it how do I go about getting the V5? Or even can I.
    I'm aware there are loads of posts on no V5 but some are 12 years old and I'm looking for current advise please.
    I really want this vehicle please tell me it is possible..


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,114 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    You will not be able to register the car on Irish plates without the car's V5c. The VRT centre used to accept a Permanent Certificate of Export as an alternative but the DVLA don't issue them anyway so the only registration document the VRT centre will accept is the V5c.

    Either get the seller to request a replacement V5c from the DVLA or forget about it. It will be a world of pain without it.


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    Alanvtec
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭Alanvtec


    Thanks for the reply Bazz, ya don't know if Copart would go to all that trouble to get a V5 for me, the fact it says V5 none, means that's it take it or leave it kinda job I'd say. But I'll drop them an email and see what they say.
    Thanks again.


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,114 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Sounds like it maybe a stolen recovered or repo car. No matter how cheap it is you will have the same brick wall here when you go to try and VRT it.

    Just move on to something else is my advice.


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    L-M
    Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Be prepared to wait a long time for the V5, if they do apply for it.


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    Marcusm
    Registered Users Posts: 10,184 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    L-M wrote: »
    Be prepared to wait a long time for the V5, if they do apply for it.

    If Copart was the reg’d keeper then they’d have it in a few days. If they are not and the finance co has not replaced the V5 then I’d agree with you that it will be a head wrecker.


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    robie5
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭robie5


    Plenty of advice on gov.uk. it looks straight forward to apply for replacement, however I've only bought with v5.


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    User1998
    Registered Users Posts: 5,831 ✭✭✭User1998


    Its straight forward if your a UK resident, DVLA won’t post a new or replacement V5 to Ireland


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    Alanvtec
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭Alanvtec


    Thanks everyone for the replies, I'll have to keep ye posted on the outcome. Cheers


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    Alanvtec
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭Alanvtec


    Hey guys just a bit of an update, I purchased the vehicle. I can tell now, its a 1994 Fiat ducato globetrotter camper Van (I was afraid someone might bid for it before it was sold).

    Now I'm in the process of getting the V5c, like what User1998 has said you can apply for a replacement one if you live in the UK, so that's exactly what I'm going to do.
    The form is called a V62 available on Gov.co.uk
    Appreciate all the help, you will probably see me posting on the camper forums loads of newbie questions.


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    pancyk
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭pancyk


    For anyone stuck for V5 docket, and dont have anyone with UK address.
    You can reach out to EMK Transport :

    Phone - 0872809481 - 9.30am -6pm
    Email - 9.30am - 6pm
    BEFORE 9.30AM & AFTER 6PM
    Text - 0872809481

    the ad says:

    EMK TRANSPORT - CAN APPLY NOW FOR CUSTOMERS V5 DOCUMENTS THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO GET THEM POSTED TO THE SOUTH OF IRELAND - THIS CAN BE COMPLETED FOR A FEE OF €150PER V5 APPLICATION.
    CONTACT EMK REGARDING THIS.

    found on :

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...k-ire/21500147

    good luck


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    User1998
    Registered Users Posts: 5,831 ✭✭✭User1998


    So do you have the V5 ?


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,114 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    €150, lol.


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    extra-ordinary_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    bazz26 wrote: »
    €150, lol.


    Had to re-read it...thought it was €15 first


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    pancyk
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭pancyk


    extra-ordinary_ wrote: »
    Had to re-read it...thought it was €15 first

    If you can do it for 15eur, i will stick with you :)

    It's about 30euro fee for the V5, so to pay 120 and have V5 sorted, is better that being stuck with a few grand car that cant be registered?


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    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    pancyk wrote: »
    If you can do it for 15eur, i will stick with you :)

    It's about 30euro fee for the V5, so to pay 120 and have V5 sorted, is better that being stuck with a few grand car that cant be registered?

    120 for the use of someone’s address?!


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,114 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Or just don't buy a car without getting the V5c into your hand. Avoid a lot of hassle as well as saving yourself paying vultures €150 when your desperate.


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    Ta ceist agam
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 387 ✭✭Ta ceist agam


    pancyk wrote: »
    If you can do it for 15eur, i will stick with you :)

    It's about 30euro fee for the V5, so to pay 120 and have V5 sorted, is better that being stuck with a few grand car that cant be registered?

    Could you not have used a Parcel Motel UK/NI address or the Addresspal UK address?


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    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭Isambard


    Ta ceist agam wrote: »
    Could you not have used a Parcel Motel UK/NI address or the Addresspal UK address?

    no, they won't register the car at an address like that, for obvious reasons.


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    pancyk
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭pancyk


    Daniella Quick Senator wrote: »
    120 for the use of someone’s address?!

    yes 120eur !, i wouldn't give my address for 2000euro for registering a car, for someone that i dont know !


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    mk7r
    Registered Users Posts: 719 ✭✭✭mk7r


    pancyk wrote: »
    If you can do it for 15eur, i will stick with you :)

    It's about 30euro fee for the V5, so to pay 120 and have V5 sorted, is better that being stuck with a few grand car that cant be registered?

    How do they handle a situation where the V5 has been sent back and the car marked as exported? You can't just apply for another V5 then, it involves re importing the car to the UK to get a V5. Catch it before the V5 is sent back and its grand but if it gets to the DVLA its a world of pain.


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    pancyk
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭pancyk


    mk7r wrote: »
    How do they handle a situation where the V5 has been sent back and the car marked as exported? You can't just apply for another V5 then, it involves re importing the car to the UK to get a V5. Catch it before the V5 is sent back and its grand but if it gets to the DVLA its a world of pain.

    if that's the case, they will refund 100euro


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    mk7r
    Registered Users Posts: 719 ✭✭✭mk7r


    pancyk wrote: »
    if that's the case, they will refund 100euro

    Thats not a terrible service they provide then, I don't think the price is outrageous. Perhaps they can develop a service to help when the car IS marked as exported as i'd imagine in most cases it will be, there was one company I believe working on such a thing.


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    L-M
    Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Jaysus I didn’t think €150 was bad. You’d get charged a lot more for a lot less.


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    Bigus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭Bigus


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Or just don't buy a car without getting the V5c into your hand. Avoid a lot of hassle as well as saving yourself paying vultures €150 when your desperate.

    €150 is very reasonable to enable the vehicle to be registered vs scrap value.

    Even if you asked a UK resident Irish friend you’d surely drop him £100 or more to bring the missus out to dinner for the use of their address to get a legit V5


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    Damo5521
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Damo5521


    Alanvtec wrote: »
    Hey guys just a bit of an update, I purchased the vehicle. I can tell now, its a 1994 Fiat ducato globetrotter camper Van (I was afraid someone might bid for it before it was sold).

    Now I'm in the process of getting the V5c, like what User1998 has said you can apply for a replacement one if you live in the UK, so that's exactly what I'm going to do.
    The form is called a V62 available on Gov.co.uk
    Appreciate all the help, you will probably see me posting on the camper forums loads of newbie questions.

    How you get on with this, interested to find out as i was told the same about needing a friend/relative in uk and then get them to send export slip to make the vehicle registered out of the country, the i just vrt in ireland


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    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭Isambard


    Damo5521 wrote: »
    How you get on with this, interested to find out as i was told the same about needing a friend/relative in uk and then get them to send export slip to make the vehicle registered out of the country, the i just vrt in ireland

    you have it wrong. It's when an export slip is sent (and the V5C marked "exported") that the real problems occur.

    You need to get the first parts of the V5C in your hand and you can't re-register without it.


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    Damo5521
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Damo5521


    Isambard wrote: »
    you have it wrong. It's when an export slip is sent (and the V5C marked "exported") that the real problems occur.

    You need to get the first parts of the V5C in your hand and you can't re-register without it.

    Thanks for the info, i was told by dvla that in order to get the v5c the dvla have to have an address in the uk to send it out to, (as they wont send direct to Ireland) Then that person (in uk) exports it out of uk using slip, then i have the rest of v5c in hand to re register in Ireland.

    Confused or what 🀦*♂️


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    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭Isambard


    Damo5521 wrote: »
    Thanks for the info, i was told by dvla that in order to get the v5c the dvla have to have an address in the uk to send it out to, (as they wont send direct to Ireland) Then that person (in uk) exports it out of uk using slip, then i have the rest of v5c in hand to re register in Ireland.

    Confused or what ��*♂️

    that's slightly different, It matters not a bit to you what is done with the export slip in this case, if you can get a V5C sent to someone in the Uk in their address, they can just send it to you and you're golden. If it's marked export already though you have a problem. There's a DVLA procedure to send a V5C out in this circumstance


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    Damo5521
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Damo5521


    Isambard wrote: »
    that's slightly different, It matters not a bit to you what is done with the export slip in this case, if you can get a V5C sent to someone in the Uk in their address, they can just send it to you and you're golden. If it's marked export already though you have a problem. There's a DVLA procedure to send a V5C out in this circumstance

    Cheers for the help,
    I wonder would there be any issue with having a v5c in someone else’s name and you paying for it.
    Would it cause any hassel for them wondering where funds came from etc.??


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    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭Isambard


    i don't think that matters. The DVLA state the seller should hand you the V5C, so normally it would be in someone else's name.


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