childs mother Sexual assaulted in front of him

carzony · 05-07-2013 8:44pm #1

poor child having to witness this. A ****in 2 year suspended sentence? WTF??

http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/son-8-saw-sex-assault-on-mum-in-her-bed-29397989.html

Festy · 05-07-2013 8:49pm

That's the Irish justice system for ya...Pathetic.....

MadsL · 05-07-2013 8:52pm

Cue keyboard warrior physical threats...mainly focusing on his groin area.

Artful_Badger · 05-07-2013 8:53pm

Fair play to the young lad. I'd say yer man might be in for his comeuppance when the kid grows up.

omahaid · 05-07-2013 8:55pm

That particular judge features a lot in this forum.

My name is URL · 05-07-2013 8:55pm

Judge Martin Nolan said the man had given "an explanation of sorts" for what he did that night

Oh well that's grand so. He explained his actions so suspend his sentence?!

What the actual fcuk? There's many times when the Irish justice system lets itself down but how on Earth can someone escape prison time for such as assault? The kid is an obvious victim in this as well. Mind boggling stuff

05-07-2013 8:56pm

Just appalling.

Artful_Badger · 05-07-2013 8:58pm

My name is URL wrote: »

Oh well that's grand so. He explained his actions so suspend his sentence?!

What the actual fcuk? There's many times when the Irish justice system lets itself down but how on Earth can someone escape prison time for such as assault? The kid is an obvious victim in this as well. Mind boggling stuff

Gave an explanation of sorts which the Judge didnt believe a word of. So suspended sentence. On about your business Mr registered sex offender.

My name is URL · 05-07-2013 8:59pm

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/10/19/notorious-wig-does-it-again/

He was suspended from presiding over criminal cases in January. I wonder what happened to change that...

Serve over ice · 05-07-2013 8:59pm

Hard to imagine how that man didn't receive a custodial sentence

How many people in prison tonight for non payment of fines

The mind boggles :mad:

super_furry · 05-07-2013 8:59pm

I read that rather depressing story yesterday and as soon as I saw the headline, my first though was "I bet the judge was Martin Nolan."

05-07-2013 8:59pm

So his reward for pleading guilty is no jail time at all?

It takes almost a miracle for a sexual assault/rape case to get as far as a courtroom, and a huge amount of stress for the victim and all their circle. This just reduces their experience to a nothing.

How Strange · 05-07-2013 9:02pm

His family probably need him to take the bins out on a Thursday or he has a dog he has to walk once a month or a granny he needs to visit every Christmas day or something. Better not lock him up just in case. Why would you put yourself through the trauma of a trial if that's the kind of sentence that is handed down.

omahaid · 05-07-2013 9:05pm

I'm sure the judge's avid defenders will be along soon to explain how we don't understand the law enough to comprehend this sentence.

My name is URL · 05-07-2013 9:10pm

omahaid wrote: »

I'm sure the judge's avid defenders will be along soon to explain how we don't understand the law enough to comprehend this sentence.

There is very good reason for allowing judges to make calls without pressure from the public swaying any decision, but this guy's record in dealing with cases of a sexual nature is just beyond belief. I'd love to hear someone try to defend it because I can't see how it can possibly be defended.

omahaid · 05-07-2013 9:13pm

My name is URL wrote: »

There is very good reason for allowing judges to make calls without pressure from the public swaying any decision

I agree completely with this but if I have a complaint about a member of the gardai I can go to the Garda Ombudsman but if I have a complaint about a judge who do I go to? Is there someone independent?

Gatling · 05-07-2013 9:13pm

We will get the usual defence if judge hands out a sentence ,appeals court will automatically give him a reduced sentence ,so to save all the hassle judge retard gives light sentence and go's off to enjoy hookers and coke after 18 holes in peace and quite

Lingua Franca · 05-07-2013 9:14pm

This fecker agan? It's always Nolan.

http://www.facebook.com/CallForTheResignationOfJudgeMartinNolan

These guys are going to start lobbying politicians next week, if anyone is interested in helping out.

Sierra 117 · 05-07-2013 9:14pm

There's no defense for that sentence. It's a complete disgrace.

My name is URL · 05-07-2013 9:16pm

omahaid wrote: »

I agree completely with this but if I have a complaint about a member of the gardai I can go to the Garda Ombudsman but if I have a complaint about a judge who do I go to? Is there someone independent?

I'm not sure how exactly it works, but iirc the only person who can dismiss or discipline a judge is the president.

Andrewf20 · 05-07-2013 9:17pm

Theres a facebook page calling for his resignation.

https://www.facebook.com/CallForTheResignationOfJudgeMartinNolan

This case will surely put off other victims of similar ordeals from coming forward.

carzony · 05-07-2013 9:18pm

I'v known lads to get harsher sentencing for very minor stuff (well compared to this offence like)

catallus · 05-07-2013 9:22pm

The whole lot of the people who administer justice in this country take a perverted pride in being detached from the sentiment of the common person; it is part of their training and profession. All this talk of proportionality and innocence is garb for the fiends.

everlast75 · 05-07-2013 9:24pm

Has the hallmarks of a fantastic revenge movie though!

05-07-2013 10:20pm

Lingua Franca wrote: »

This fecker agan? It's always Nolan.

Nah, sometimes Justice Carney helps him out.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/colette-browne/patrick-obrien-raped-his-daughter-for-10-years-why-is-he-not-in-jail-220367.html

In that particular case he eventually sent the child rapist to prison after public outcry.

He admitted he was 'insensitive' in letting him walk on bail.

It's one or the other though.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 05-07-2013 10:27pm

carzony wrote: »

poor child having to witness this. A ****in 2 year suspended sentence? WTF??

http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/son-8-saw-sex-assault-on-mum-in-her-bed-29397989.html

The single sentence "Judge Martin Nolan" explains all, this so called "Judge" is famour for denigrating female victims and letting their attackers walk free!

jonon9 · 05-07-2013 11:39pm

This country really is a cesspit, from idiotic governments to banks destroying peoples livelihood even our justice system is terrible everyday i'm becoming more ashamed to live in such a ****hole of a country!

childs mother Sexual assaulted in front of him

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