Are old fashioned dinners a thing of the past?

Kylta · 25-11-2020 2:18pm #1

Do people still do a sunday dinner, consisting of ham, roast, potatoes, cabbage?
Do people still do stews?
Do people still do coddles?

These days with most children, especially teenagers, not wanting this and only eating that, and people becoming vegans and vegetarians, people cutting down of different foods due to medical conditions etc.

So what's your opinion, if you refuse to answer, you'll get yesterdays leftover cabbage and potatoes for your dinner.

Bowlardo · 25-11-2020 2:21pm

You can beat a good stew is cold weather

elbyrneo · 25-11-2020 2:22pm

You've answered the question yourself in the title

sbsquarepants · 25-11-2020 2:22pm

Kylta wrote: »

Do people still do a sunday dinner, consisting of ham, roast, potatoes, cabbage?

Yes, wouldn't be every sunday - but you can't beat a decent sunday dinner!

Kylta wrote: »

Do people still do stews?

Love stew, but only my ma's, my own or my cousin Jeans. My missuses effort is barely edible, i refuse to even call it stew:mad:

Kylta wrote: »

Do people still do coddles?

Very rarely because i'm the only one who eats it, but jaysus i'd kill for a bowl of coddle now!

xzanti · 25-11-2020 2:22pm

I've never cooked or eaten coddle.

I love stew and cook it frequently.

Also love a good roast chicken dinner on a Sunday.

I don't really know what a "new fashion" dinner would be tbh?

eviltwin · 25-11-2020 2:22pm

You still get old style grub but the ingredients might be a bit more unusual

Funny myself and the other half were only saying today that our dads - both deceased - would hardly recognise the contents of our fridge

Glurrl · 25-11-2020 2:23pm

Yes, Slow cookers stews casseroles etc. We sit down every evening at the table and chat over dinner

peter4918 · 25-11-2020 2:25pm

Stews, Bacon and Cabbage are still on the menu in our house with the odd Sunday roast or Shepard’s pie. We were never big into the coddle

Conall Cernach · 25-11-2020 2:26pm

Kylta wrote: »

Do people still do a sunday dinner, consisting of ham, roast, potatoes, cabbage?
Do people still do stews?
Do people still do coddles?

These days with most children, especially teenagers, not wanting this and only eating that, and people becoming vegans and vegetarians, people cutting down of different foods due to medical conditions etc.

So what's your opinion, if you refuse to answer, you'll get yesterdays leftover cabbage and potatoes for your dinner.

I'm a vegetarian and I'd have traditional dinners fairly regularly with some sort of meat substitute like quorn. Pastas and curries are more simple to prepare though with maybe 2 pots involved instead of 3 or 4 plus an oven for the traditional dinner.

Leftover cabbage and spuds is fantastic fried in the pan and served with plenty of salt and HP sauce.

Jimson · 25-11-2020 2:27pm

Had to Google coddle, never heard of it

For Forks Sake · 25-11-2020 2:28pm

Nobody should eat coddle. I wouldn't even give it to the dog.

25-11-2020 2:31pm

Bland boring dinner type. Good riddance i say.

sbsquarepants · 25-11-2020 2:33pm

Jimson wrote: »

Had to Google coddle, never heard of it

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Nobody should eat coddle. I wouldn't even give it to the dog.

Don't listen to this man. Coddle is the food of the gods:D

GarIT · 25-11-2020 2:34pm

xzanti wrote: »

I've never cooked or eaten coddle.

I love stew and cook it frequently.

Also love a good roast chicken dinner on a Sunday.

I don't really know what a "new fashion" dinner would be tbh?

Pizza, Burgers, Lasagna

GarIT · 25-11-2020 2:36pm

I never eat them I hate, stew, why ruin the meat like that?

Christmas dinner is the worst slop you could put on a plate I wouldn't wish it on someone in prison. You can make a much nicer dinner for less than half the price in 20 mins if you just go with a pizza.

The main thing for me is trying to cut potatoes out of my diet as much as possible except for chips and crisps. I can't stand them. Or sprouts, cabbage, turkey.

paw patrol · 25-11-2020 2:39pm

Kylta wrote: »

Do people still do a sunday dinner, consisting of ham, roast, potatoes, cabbage?
Do people still do stews?
Do people still do coddles?

These days with most children, especially teenagers, not wanting this and only eating that, and people becoming vegans and vegetarians, people cutting down of different foods due to medical conditions etc.

So what's your opinion, if you refuse to answer, you'll get yesterdays leftover cabbage and potatoes for your dinner.

our family love a roast dinner - we'd eat them frequently maybe fortnightly of a sunday

Stew occasionally too.

We all eat a lot of animal protein and none of my kids have any of restrictive eating habits so that type of thing is alien to me as a parent.

Eggs For Dinner · 25-11-2020 2:43pm

A week wouldn't pass without having a shepherds pie
Love stews
A roast dinner is nice when we've company, only the 2 of us lately
Bacon & Cabbage will never cross my door. I abhor fatty meat and cabbage is just smelly pointless weeds.

Might have a takeaway once a month, but mainly homemade curries, pasta, steak, lasagne, stir fry, chicken. etc

CelticRambler · 25-11-2020 2:46pm

Kylta wrote: »

These days with most children, especially teenagers, not wanting this and only eating that, and people becoming vegans and vegetarians, people cutting down of different foods due to medical conditions etc.

Simple rule in this house: if you don't want to eat what's prepared for the "family" (less of that these days, more a group of random guests) then you can cook something alternative for yourself and have it ready to serve at the same time. Funnily enough, there's rarely any demand for shared space at the cooker! :pac:

I had seven vegetarians visit at various stages over the summer; six of them "lapsed" during their stay. The worst was the lady who was going to cook some kind of rice dish, had all her ingredients laid out, got distracted by a phone call, and came back just at the moment that I pulled a pork roast out of the oven. The rice never left the packet ... and she had two helpings of the pork!

So to answer your question: yep -
- Roast meat & potatoes are quite regular here (though not necessarily kept for Sundays) ; cabbage is for caterpillars, so I'd have two or three other veg instead.
- Stews: regularly throughout the winter. I make up a big batch, put three or four portions in the freezer and eat the other three or four portions over the course of the week (I find the third re-heat is usually the best).
- Coddle : never had it in its "pure" form, but regularly make what in this house we call "shpeck und spuds" - Speck being the German for prosciutto/lardons/bacon-bits. The meat would be fresh out of the packet, but the potato would always be leftovers, so true to the spirit of coddle ... but fried in a pan (with onions, herbs, black pepper), so not really coddle either.

Edit: I have often had the Alsation version of coddle - choucroute (a version of sauerkraut). Suppose I should do a comparison tasting at some point ...

banie01 · 25-11-2020 2:48pm

Jimson wrote: »

Had to Google coddle, never heard of it

It's a Dub thing

Kylta · 25-11-2020 2:52pm

- Coddle : never had it in its "pure" form, but regularly make what in this house we call "shpeck und spuds" - Speck being the German for prosciutto/lardons/bacon-bits. The meat would be fresh out of the packet, but the potato would always be leftovers, so true to the spirit of coddle ... but fried in a pan (with onions, herbs, black pepper), so not really coddle either.[/QUOTE]

That shpeck und spuds sounds lovely, might try that over the weekend

Smee_Again · 25-11-2020 2:54pm

We'd have stew a few times a month, Sunday roasts maybe twice a month and I don't even know what coddle is. Sounds like something a Dub will make and tell you its a delicacy.

Other than that this week's dinner have or will consist(ed) of chicken caesar salad, chicken and pasta, beef and broccoli stir-fry, slow roast lamp with sides TBD and we might get a take away over the weekend.

Other regulars would be spag bol, lasagne, homemade beef burgers/chicken goujons or a pie the day after a roast.

Thelonious Monk · 25-11-2020 3:33pm

What even is this stew you all speak of? Is it like a curry but with no flavour?

Thelonious Monk · 25-11-2020 3:34pm

Smee_Again wrote: »

Sounds like something a Dub will make and tell you its a delicacy.

I think it's bits of sausages and potatoes and carrots in a watery mess. Like something I'd expect to be served in a Victorian prison. I've lived in Dublin most of my life and never actually seen it or heard of anyone I know eating it.

Gatling · 25-11-2020 3:45pm

Krispy pancakes

Pamsteer · 25-11-2020 3:59pm

Kylta wrote: »

Do people still do a sunday dinner, consisting of ham, roast, potatoes, cabbage?
Do people still do stews?
Do people still do coddles?

These days with most children, especially teenagers, not wanting this and only eating that, and people becoming vegans and vegetarians, people cutting down of different foods due to medical conditions etc.

So what's your opinion, if you refuse to answer, you'll get yesterdays leftover cabbage and potatoes for your dinner.

People may not cook those as often as they did but they are very popular as pub grub. I've friends that would regularly go to a pub carvery on a Sunday and order those dishes - not sure what they're doing at the moment though.

sbsquarepants · 25-11-2020 4:20pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I think it's bits of sausages and potatoes and carrots in a watery mess. Like something I'd expect to be served in a Victorian prison. I've lived in Dublin most of my life and never actually seen it or heard of anyone I know eating it.

Sausages, rashers, spuds, carrots + onions - I think the original recipe would be cooked in stock of some sort, but i personally prefer potato soup, i also throw in some parsnips and barley, occasionally a few chickpeas.

You'd be hard pressed to find a more delicious meal!

Pasteur. · 25-11-2020 4:27pm

Life is more chaotic now

People are fussier and not available to eat at the same time

arccosh · 25-11-2020 4:29pm

Sunday Deliveroo

Church on Tuesday · 25-11-2020 4:34pm

You can't beat a good wholesome Irish stew, especially in the winter months

Gregor Samsa · 25-11-2020 5:24pm

This is a coddle I made for my family a few weeks ago. Some fundamentalists would argue that it's not pure because it has orange carrots, and everything should be pale, but I disagree. It was absolutely delicious. Really easy to make. Chop up some potatoes, carrots, rashers, sausages and onions. Parsnips are acceptable too. Add them to a pot of chicken stock. Throw in some barley and black pepper. Bring to the boil and simmer for for an hour.

If you look up recipes online, all you get is abominations. You do not cook it in an oven, and you do not brown the sausages or rashers first. This is the way.

Serve piping hot with some soda bread and more black pepper, washed down with a pint of mik.

They don't call it "mickey stew" for nothing.

mikemac2 · 25-11-2020 5:28pm

Not a farm anyway

Dinner at 12 noon

CelticRambler · 25-11-2020 5:37pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

What even is this stew you all speak of? Is it like a curry but with no flavour?

Not if you have it in my house! Carrots fresh from the garden that taste like carrots; herbs fresh from the garden that taste like real herbs. The one in the freezer at the moment has added pulped tomatoes (fresh from the garden) and jalapeño chillis (fresh from the garden) to give it a bit of excitement. And no shop-bought stock of any kind. :cool:

meeeeh · 25-11-2020 5:37pm

Coddle doesn't appeal to me. I never tried it. We eat all sorts. Ham, potatoes, cabbage were on Sunday, we had stew about 10 days ago.

I'm not Irish so I didn't have some of traditional dishes until I moved here. One of the kids is picky as he'll but not for the lack of trying. We eat good variety of food from international to national dishes. For dinner we try to avoid processed foods so fish fingers won't be on the menu but otherwise it can be just about anything.

El_Duderino 09 · 25-11-2020 5:38pm

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

This is a coddle I made for my family a few weeks ago. Some fundamentalists would argue that it's not pure because it has orange carrots, and everything should be pale, but I disagree. It was absolutely delicious. Really easy to make. Chop up some potatoes, carrots, rashers, sausages and onions. Parsnips are acceptable too. Add them to a pot of chicken stock. Throw in some barley and black pepper. Bring to the boil and simmer for for an hour.

If you look up recipes online, all you get is abominations. You do not cook it in an oven, and you do not brown the sausages or rashers first. This is the way.

Serve piping hot with some soda bread and more black pepper, washed down with a pint of mik.

They don't call it "mickey stew" for nothing.

Yeah i agree with not browning or roasting it in the oven or even salting. Browning and roasting would make it really tasty and proper coddle should not be tasty or involve any cooking craft. The cook should act as if they hate their life when they’re making it and expect to dislike it as you eat it.

It can be nice but normal cooking sense should be applied. It needs good flavoursome sausages and obviously brown the meat and veg before cooking. Roasting could add flavour too if you allow some bits to get crispy and browned.

Thelonious Monk · 25-11-2020 5:40pm

CelticRambler wrote: »

Not if you have it in my house! Carrots fresh from the garden that taste like carrots; herbs fresh from the garden that taste like real herbs. The one in the freezer at the moment has added pulped tomatoes (fresh from the garden) and jalapeño chillis (fresh from the garden) to give it a bit of excitement. And no shop-bought stock of any kind. :cool:

I mean that doesn't sound like an Irish stew, which is probably why it might actually taste like something!

CelticRambler · 25-11-2020 5:44pm

mikemac2 wrote: »

Not a farm anyway

Dinner at 12 noon

:eek: 'Round these parts, 12-noon is when the natives stop for their two-hour breakfast (dé-jeuner). You'd be hard pressed to get anyone to dine after that until about 20h00!

theteal · 25-11-2020 5:53pm

Born and reared (ooh matron) in Dublin 12 and never heard of Coddle until my mid-20s, cannot say the idea appeals - which probably means it's delish.

It's getting to the season for stews, they'll be back on the menu soon enough.

We probably do a roast once a month or so.

Gregor Samsa · 25-11-2020 6:09pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

It can be nice but normal cooking sense should be applied. It needs good flavoursome sausages and obviously brown the meat and veg before cooking. Roasting could add flavour too if you allow some bits to get crispy and browned.

No.

Cook it properly and taste it. It has plenty of flavour and a sublime texture. Perfection in a pot.

It's not coddle if it's got brown or crispy bits. Croddle, maybe. Cruddle? Codawful?

Gloomtastic! · 25-11-2020 6:18pm

Kylta wrote: »

Do people still do a sunday dinner, consisting of ham, roast, potatoes, cabbage?
Do people still do stews?
Do people still do coddles?

These days with most children, especially teenagers, not wanting this and only eating that, and people becoming vegans and vegetarians, people cutting down of different foods due to medical conditions etc.

So what's your opinion, if you refuse to answer, you'll get yesterdays leftover cabbage and potatoes for your dinner.

Still do a cooked dinner here every night and a big roast on Sundays. Dinner time is probably the only time during the day we get together as a family, albeit for 15/20 minutes.
You have to work around the don’t likes and can’t haves but give them good enough food and they’ll come to the table every time.

Gregor Samsa · 25-11-2020 6:26pm

I cook a dinner for the 5 of us every day (2 adults, 3 kids). We all sit down at the dining room table together around 6.30pm. I generally don't do anything special on a Sunday, but sometimes we'd have a roast, but it could be anything. Friday night is currently pizza night. One of my kids (7yo) is very adventurous with food and try absolutely anything. The other two are a bit more cautious, and have individual things they don't like, but they aren't too bad. None of them are teens yet, so it's easy enough to have them all in one place, eating a common meal. That will probably change over the next few years.

El Tarangu · 25-11-2020 6:30pm

Roast dinners are delicious, but even so, I wouldn't be bothered cooking one myself.

Stews are pleasant enough - a bit boring, and not really worth the effort, either.

Coddle is dirt - 'mmm, delicious unbrowned sausage texture" - ???

FTA69 · 25-11-2020 7:11pm

I’d have a roast most Sundays. Meat and two veg job a few days a week; I’ll also make something like a chilli or a curry which will do a few meals.

I don’t get this sneering at having spuds and brocolli and a bit of meat like; you’re not some super sophisticate because you eat lasagne or whatever instead.

El_Duderino 09 · 25-11-2020 7:25pm

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

No.

Cook it properly and taste it. It has plenty of flavour and a sublime texture. Perfection in a pot.

It's not coddle if it's got brown or crispy bits. Croddle, maybe. Cruddle? Codawful?

If I cooked it properly it would have browned sausage, onion, carrot and bacon. No way that if bung it all in a pot of stock and boil it and consider it well cooked.

I’ve cooked it properly before with flavour, browning the ingredients and seasoning with salt and thyme. That doesn’t seem compatible with your version though.

It was poverty food but it doesn’t have to be devoid of flavour. Boiled sausages are about as good as they sound. Browned sausages which are then boiled are a different thing and can add great seasoning to the whole pot.

Old school Irish cooking can be a bit embarrassing, particularly when people mistake the poverty of the time the food enjoyed popularity with the methods of cooking. But, each to their own.

25-11-2020 7:39pm

Glurrl wrote: »

Yes, Slow cookers stews casseroles etc. We sit down every evening at the table and chat over dinner

Same. Stews, casseroles, hotpots, curries all done in the slow cooker, roasts at the weekend. There's nothing like the smell of something delicious hitting your nose when you come in from a cold day.

fits · 25-11-2020 7:42pm

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

I cook a dinner for the 5 of us every day (2 adults, 3 kids). We all sit down at the dining room table together around 6.30pm. I generally don't do anything special on a Sunday, but sometimes we'd have a roast, but it could be anything. Friday night is currently pizza night. One of my kids (7yo) is very adventurous with food and try absolutely anything. The other two are a bit more cautious, and have individual things they don't like, but they aren't too bad. None of them are teens yet, so it's easy enough to have them all in one place, eating a common meal. That will probably change over the next few years.

Same here. Down to the pizza on fridays. We do a mix of traditional to vegetarian. Just had bacon and turnip this evening. Hard to beat.

3d4life · 25-11-2020 7:43pm

El Tarangu wrote: »

...Stews are pleasant enough - a bit boring, and not really worth the effort, either.......?

Sooo worth the effort when you have nothing but can pull a few portions of stew out of the freezer

fonecrusher1 · 25-11-2020 7:47pm

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Some fundamentalists would argue that it's not pure because it has orange carrots, and everything should be pale, but I disagree.

Some people would argue that looks like prison food on a bad day.

:pac:

Minier81 · 25-11-2020 7:53pm

Love a good stew. I am the queen of the one pot cooking. I'd say we do a mix of traditional and not. My stews are different to what my mother would have made (stuff like sweet potatoes or chickpeas)but a traditional dish none the less.

No way would I eat or cook coddle.

Roast dinner is yum but time consuming.

25-11-2020 7:54pm

I'm sure it's lovely, but that coddle thing looks really unappealing to me. I can't get past the unbrowned sausage.

jmlad2020 · 25-11-2020 7:56pm

Yea this does still exist in old fashioned and backward rural Ireland. Places like Donegal, Laois and Mayo. They still finish each meal with a pint of Milk followed by an emphatic and refreshing "aaaahhh" followed by wiping their mouths with their sleeves, and back to farming they go.

IAMAMORON · 25-11-2020 8:04pm

I love roasting a chicken and oven chips and drowning them in salt n vinegar and rich gravy and stuffing myself with it.

Followed up with Vienetta.

Melon to start.

Washed down with freeeeeeeeeeeeezing cold Lilt.

Are old fashioned dinners a thing of the past?

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