Thursday 28/05

Mostly Harmless · 27-05-2015 6:15pm #1

There looks likely to be some rain hitting the ground at Haydock between now and the start of racing tomorrow and that will do no harms to the chances of Grissom (3.50 Haydock). He ran his best race for a long time last time out when not beaten far behind the well fancied and well handicapped Free Code and he makes a good bit of appeal off the same mark tomorrow. Not won in a long time and probably not the same horse who was once rated in the 90s but has shown enough flashes of ability since returning from an absence at the start of last season to suggest that he can win off a mark of 78.
2pts @ 14/1 Generally

sdoc13 · 27-05-2015 7:59pm

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

There looks likely to be some rain hitting the ground at Haydock between now and the start of racing tomorrow and that will do no harms to the chances of Grissom (3.50 Haydock). He ran his best race for a long time last time out when not beaten far behind the well fancied and well handicapped Free Code and he makes a good bit of appeal off the same mark tomorrow. Not won in a long time and probably not the same horse who was once rated in the 90s but has shown enough flashes of ability since returning from an absence at the start of last season to suggest that he can win off a mark of 78.
2pts @ 14/1 Generally

Agree and also give Whozthecat a chance in the same race a chance. Think the 25s available is big and going to split my stake 1 pt win both.

Mostly Harmless · 27-05-2015 8:28pm

sdoc13 wrote: »

Agree and also give Whozthecat a chance in the same race a chance. Think the 25s available is big and going to split my stake 1 pt win both.

Slight concern about the form of the yard but having taken a closer look I agree Whozthecat is potentially too well treated to ignore and have stuck 1pt on at the 25/1

sdoc13 · 27-05-2015 8:57pm

8 35 Fairyhouse. I give King of Oriel a squeak not one for maximum faith but I think the 12s on offer is fair. Has won off 60. On this mark of 47 for a while now and had ran a couple of good races when finishing 4th over 9f and 11f. I think the 10f tomorrow will suit and I Queally a good claimer aboard. 1 pt win

Mostly Harmless · 27-05-2015 9:16pm

Trying to figure out what I have missed but I think the 8/1 available for Donncha (8.45 Sandown) is way too big. He went straight into my tracker after his win last time out at Lingfield - patiently ridden and just about the last off the bridle, he then met some traffic in running and showed a good engine to power through the field and won without coming under maximum pressure with a good bit more in hand than than the winning margin suggests. He is only 3lbs higher tomorrow and judging on the style of his win at Lingfield the stiffer finish and extra furlong should be conducive to further improvement. Looks the real unexposed one in the field and could possibly be a bit better than a handicapper in due course - Ladbrokes are a stand out 8/1, that is without BOG but he has been very well backed on both runs this season and I suspect that may well be the case again tomorrow.
2pts Win

longshotvalue · 27-05-2015 10:09pm

I'm having a lot of difficulty finding something to beat Simenon tomorrow. Willies horses are always ready to run even if his main target is the Gold Cup and possibly the Melbourne Cup. On all known form he is a long way clear of these on these terms tomorrow. i think he possibly should be a solid favorite and 4/1 seems value.. I'm not sure im backing it yet, but i need a fair amount of convincing not to.

gazza1 · 27-05-2015 10:15pm

sdoc13 wrote: »

8 35 Fairyhouse. I give King of Oriel a squeak not one for maximum faith but I think the 12s on offer is fair. Has won off 60. On this mark of 47 for a while now and had ran a couple of good races when finishing 4th over 9f and 11f. I think the 10f tomorrow will suit and I Queally a good claimer aboard. 1 pt win

I had a look at this race also and i think GUN SHOOT has decent claims also as hes a c&d winner and is 1lb below that winning mark 14/1 currently with pp

Francie Barrett · 27-05-2015 10:18pm

sdoc13 wrote: »

8 35 Fairyhouse. I give King of Oriel a squeak not one for maximum faith but I think the 12s on offer is fair. Has won off 60. On this mark of 47 for a while now and had ran a couple of good races when finishing 4th over 9f and 11f. I think the 10f tomorrow will suit and I Queally a good claimer aboard. 1 pt win

That race looks rock hard to pick a winner from - lots with chances. Personally, would be inclined to go with the proven Gun Shoot which has a chunky 20/1 available despite being a course and distance winner.

ogruairi · 27-05-2015 10:20pm

Absolute cracking card at Sandown tomorrow and I'm siding with my old friend Arab Spring in the 19:45. He's running against Tryster who's a horse I really admire but I think Arab Spring could outclass him in the end. The yard has won this race seven times in the past so I'm hoping for an eight. Can be backed at around 3.5s currently.

Francie Barrett · 27-05-2015 10:25pm

Think Charlie's Mate in the 5:30 at Lingfield is at a ridiculous rating (and price) for what it has shown this year.

madmoose · 27-05-2015 10:42pm

Already have consort backed at 3/1 and trip to paris at 13/2 at sandown.

BQQ · 27-05-2015 10:56pm

aidankkk wrote: »

I'm having a lot of difficulty finding something to beat Simenon tomorrow. Willies horses are always ready to run even if his main target is the Gold Cup and possibly the Melbourne Cup. On all known form he is a long way clear of these on these terms tomorrow. i think he possibly should be a solid favorite and 4/1 seems value.. I'm not sure im backing it yet, but i need a fair amount of convincing not to.

I see where you're coming from and it is hard to pick one against him,
but looking through his form, he seems to need the run after a break of 3 months or more and he's been off since last July, which is the longest layoff he's ever had. Add to that he's been well beaten both times he's run at Sandown with that tricky camber.

What'll beat him though? Hard to say, but this race is no stranger to shock results with a couple of 20/1 shots and a 16/1 in the last 10 years.
Vent de Force I suppose I'd go for if you put a gun to my head. Course form and looks to be progressive, but the price is poor and I'll likely leave the race alone.

Backstreet Moyes · 27-05-2015 11:30pm

7pm Multiculture just looking at it where it's priced up with powers probably more aware of Irish racing.

25/1 on Bet365 and 8/1 on PP could be a chance to back and cash out for profit.

the groutch · 28-05-2015 12:05am

an old forum favorite Son Of Flicka makes his hunter chase debut in the 8:25 Wetherby (having won a p2p), 5/1 with Bet365, which won't last long.

Luap · 28-05-2015 12:15am

Chauvelin runs tomorrow now back at 12f on the aw. The 2/1 on offer atm looks good against this field.

Johner · 28-05-2015 9:00am

Really looking forward to seeing how Tryster gets on back on turf.

Have backed Emperor Bob at 7/1 in the 6.25 at Fairyhouse.

Really liked the way it won it's maiden at Dundalk coming there strongly and just being nudged out hands and heels under Conor King. The form of that race wouldn't be the strongest although the 2nd and 3rd have won maidens since but he won it in the style of a decent animal. Drops back to 6f today but he didn't look short of pace.

2ndcoming · 28-05-2015 10:25am

Seems to be a serious plunge on Behind Bars in the 7.35 at Fairyhouse. Looks like an absolute lottery of a race and yard and horse have no form to speak of but it's in to 8's from 25/1 last night.

superfurry1 · 28-05-2015 11:44am

Luap wrote: »

Chauvelin runs tomorrow now back at 12f on the aw. The 2/1 on offer atm looks good against this field.

Im thinking Investissement is a great bet 12-1 and drifting worth a bet at those prices in such a small field.

magicmoves · 28-05-2015 11:57am

Like the look of Down to Earth at the first at Lingfield 9/4

Mostly Harmless · 28-05-2015 1:21pm

Considering having a few quid on Western Hymn this evening, the price doesn't leave much margin for error but he should be a lot closer to the top of the market imo. He won well enough over this C&D on seasonal debut and Postponed did that form no harm with a credible run in a Group 1 (of debatable quality) last weekend.

Think the top two in the market are opposable, Arab Spring looks a typical SMS improver but could find this on the sharp side and has been backed into a silly price now; Tryster has run all his best races on artificial surfaces, although he has not had many chances to show what he can do on turf the US pedigree (and the record of most of his siblings) suggest that he is unlikely to find any further improvement for the switch back to turf.

shamdrog63 · 28-05-2015 1:57pm

Have had a bet on Bubbly Baily 16.00 Ling.Looks well in with the FAV on earlier form.

mailburner · 28-05-2015 2:22pm

like simenon also and 4s for that looks very decent

Fitz* · 28-05-2015 3:15pm

3.20 Haydock - The New Hope.

e/w bet. friend of a friend text it on. The field has a heavy favourite hence the e/w bet.

Fitz* · 28-05-2015 3:27pm

FitzShane wrote: »

3.20 Haydock - The New Hope.

e/w bet. friend of a friend text it on. The field has a heavy favourite hence the e/w bet.

nowhere

posturingpat · 28-05-2015 4:15pm

Had a big write up about step up in trip rating claim etc. But either phone or boards decided to delete it. Terracotta e/w this evening at fairy house.

boomtown84 · 28-05-2015 4:29pm

Hugh Taylor is something else. Are there any ways of getting his picks before he posts on ATR? Subscription deal or something. Impossible to get the advised odds.

jousting with chairs · 28-05-2015 4:33pm

Follow him on twitter and he gives a 5-10 min warning before he puts up the bets, then just keep refreshing the ATR page and you can usually get on before the price drops.

Hugh Taylor
@HughRacing

boomtown84 · 28-05-2015 4:41pm

Cheers. No better time to join twitter I suppose

jousting with chairs · 28-05-2015 4:46pm

Yeah. it's worth it, you can set it to send a text message to your phone when he tweets so you don't miss any.

boomtown84 · 28-05-2015 5:04pm

Sound. Great win by Injun Sands there. Had a lot to do when he found no gap

Francie Barrett · 28-05-2015 5:27pm

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Think Charlie's Mate in the 5:30 at Lingfield is at a ridiculous rating (and price) for what it has shown this year.

4/1 to 5/2. Let's get it done, John Best!

hudhastings · 28-05-2015 6:03pm

Francie Barrett wrote: »

4/1 to 5/2. Let's get it done, John Best!

i duno did he go too early and the way he was out wide lot of race did not help.

shmeee · 28-05-2015 7:03pm

Nuts102 wrote: »

7pm Multiculture just looking at it where it's priced up with powers probably more aware of Irish racing.

25/1 on Bet365 and 8/1 on PP could be a chance to back and cash out for profit.

3rd

See the gamble on the winner? 33/1 into 7/2. WOW :eek:

Mostly Harmless · 28-05-2015 7:17pm

Dominant win from Vent De Force, think he was a bit of a good thing when he won off 72 in a handicap round this time last season.

Promising run from Simenon given the weakness in the market.

Mostly Harmless · 28-05-2015 7:54pm

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

Considering having a few quid on Western Hymn this evening, the price doesn't leave much margin for error but he should be a lot closer to the top of the market imo. He won well enough over this C&D on seasonal debut and Postponed did that form no harm with a credible run in a Group 1 (of debatable quality) last weekend.

Think the top two in the market are opposable, Arab Spring looks a typical SMS improver but could find this on the sharp side and has been backed into a silly price now; Tryster has run all his best races on artificial surfaces, although he has not had many chances to show what he can do on turf the US pedigree (and the record of most of his siblings) suggest that he is unlikely to find any further improvement for the switch back to turf.

Missed the 5/1 because herself had me out shopping, got back in time to have a small interest at 4/1 before the price completely disappeared...

Looks an improved performer this year - soft ground for the Eclipse and he has a realistic shout.

longshotvalue · 28-05-2015 8:04pm

Alertness look big at 14/1 19 on betfair for the next at Fairhouse.. Form tied in with some very decent animals, and should like step up in trip

longshotvalue · 28-05-2015 8:25pm

the groutch wrote: »

an old forum favorite Son Of Flicka makes his hunter chase debut in the 8:25 Wetherby (having won a p2p), 5/1 with Bet365, which won't last long.

Just had a bet at 9/1 on betfair.

He owes me one, I put him up for cheltenham a few years ago at 33/1 (along with Rossom), and with my policy of only backing at the course during the festival the price had gone and i didn't actually back it.. To say i was annoyed with myself was an user-statement..

shmeee · 28-05-2015 8:37pm

Nuts102 wrote: »

7pm Multiculture just looking at it where it's priced up with powers probably more aware of Irish racing.

25/1 on Bet365 and 8/1 on PP could be a chance to back and cash out for profit.

the groutch wrote: »

an old forum favorite Son Of Flicka makes his hunter chase debut in the 8:25 Wetherby (having won a p2p), 5/1 with Bet365, which won't last long.

Cheers lads! Nice e/w double landed.

Timberrrrrrrr · 28-05-2015 8:44pm

sdoc13 wrote: »

8 35 Fairyhouse. I give King of Oriel a squeak not one for maximum faith but I think the 12s on offer is fair. Has won off 60. On this mark of 47 for a while now and had ran a couple of good races when finishing 4th over 9f and 11f. I think the 10f tomorrow will suit and I Queally a good claimer aboard. 1 pt win

Ya beauty

gazza1 · 28-05-2015 8:45pm

sdoc13 wrote: »

8 35 Fairyhouse. I give King of Oriel a squeak not one for maximum faith but I think the 12s on offer is fair. Has won off 60. On this mark of 47 for a while now and had ran a couple of good races when finishing 4th over 9f and 11f. I think the 10f tomorrow will suit and I Queally a good claimer aboard. 1 pt win

Thats incredible. Considering the start he had too. Unbelievable stuff

shmeee · 28-05-2015 8:51pm

Wow some shout there, to win by a hair then. Well in

superfurry1 · 28-05-2015 8:54pm

Well done sdoc missed it hope you got on a chunk

sdoc13 · 28-05-2015 8:58pm

Cheers lads. Lucky to get there in the end. Hope some of ye were on. i will take the drift to 14s as well how bad.

I have a feeling an account or two of mine will be up for review after the last few days,:P

have one main one for tomorrow and 1 speculative 1. Will post later.

mickey1979 · 28-05-2015 9:18pm

Merci beaucoup had a crappy lucky 15 going down the tubes not it is up with X3

madmoose · 28-05-2015 9:19pm

madmoose wrote: »

Already have consort backed at 3/1 and trip to paris at 13/2 at sandown.

Decent

Thursday 28/05

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