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N78 - Athy Southern Distributor Road [completed]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    Top Survey went out a week or two earlier so you can see the corridor under consideration


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Decision due from An Bord Pleanala in the next 3 weeks.

    http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/HA0050.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Shame they wouldn't just build a proper N78 bypass, this thing looks more an inner relief road and will be pretty much useless if and when it gets swamped by development.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Decision on this to be published on Monday.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Middle Man


    marno21 wrote: »
    Decision on this to be published on Monday.
    I think this has already been approved...

    http://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/275885/an-bord-pleanala-approves-athy-distributor-route.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭rameire


    The detail of what was decided was supposed to be released on Monday after the decision was made,
    This info was released by Martin Heydon this morning.
    But all people who made a submission were given the result today, and as a result, Thomas Redmond a County Councillor who made a submission, was able to release the details today, thankfully.
    Now all that is required is funding.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Middle Man wrote: »
    Cheers Man in the Middle.

    Good to see another project get approval, hopefully funding can be found in the next year or two.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Tenders for advance works to be published for this next week.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    marno21 wrote: »

    Thinks a shame athy isn’t getting a proper bypass I’m not convinced of this relief road thing. Or the glacial pace it’s moving at


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  • Registered Users Posts: 920 ✭✭✭Last Stop


    Athy has an AADT of around 5,000, it barely warrants this never mind a bypass considering some of the other bottlenecks around the country.
    The distributor road will do an excellent job at taking through traffic off the Main Street and into a road which will be designed to cater for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Last Stop wrote: »
    Athy has an AADT of around 5,000, it barely warrants this never mind a bypass considering some of the other bottlenecks around the country.
    The distributor road will do an excellent job at taking through traffic off the Main Street and into a road which will be designed to cater for it.

    Where’s the traffic counter saying that? All I can is one closer to Castlecomer and one out on the M9 link. These arent the same as in the town itself. Athy is choked with traffic daily


  • Registered Users Posts: 920 ✭✭✭Last Stop


    road_high wrote: »
    Where’s the traffic counter saying that? All I can is one closer to Castlecomer and one out on the M9 link. These arent the same as in the town itself. Athy is choked with traffic daily

    The counter to the south has an AADT of 3,000
    The counter to the north has an AADT of 5,000
    Neither of these would be justification for a bypass in terms of numbers for a start.
    The distributor road will take any through traffic out of the town that doesn’t need to be there. If the town is choked because of local traffic well then a distributor road will have more of an impact than a bypass.
    I really don’t see why Athy needs a bypass. I know it’s not a particularly nice town but where are people going from/to that need the bypass? The M9 took all the traffic that used to go this way as an alternative to N9 from Kilkenny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Last Stop wrote: »
    The counter to the south has an AADT of 3,000
    The counter to the north has an AADT of 5,000
    Neither of these would be justification for a bypass in terms of numbers for a start.
    The distributor road will take any through traffic out of the town that doesn’t need to be there. If the town is choked because of local traffic well then a distributor road will have more of an impact than a bypass.
    I really don’t see why Athy needs a bypass. I know it’s not a particularly nice town but where are people going from/to that need the bypass? The M9 took all the traffic that used to go this way as an alternative to N9 from Kilkenny.

    So what is the ADDT through the town itself? I live fairly close by and avoid athy like the plague if I can. I despise these half arsed cheap options that merely move from one part of a town to another rather than out of the environs properly


  • Registered Users Posts: 920 ✭✭✭Last Stop


    road_high wrote: »
    So what is the ADDT through the town itself? I live fairly close by and avoid athy like the plague if I can. I despise these half arsed cheap options that merely move from one part of a town to another rather than out of the environs properly

    The AADT for through traffic is presumably somewhere between 3-5k.
    What benefit is a bypass going to have over this road? The problem with Athy isn’t through traffic, it’s local traffic. A bypass won’t solve that but a distributor road will.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Kildare County Council have started the tender process for the construction of the 3.4km Athy Southern Distributor Road

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicPurchase/164878/0/0?returnUrl=ctm/Supplier/publictenders&b=ETENDERS_SIMPLE


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Stan27


    Any update?


  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Kevtherev1


    Notice of Kildare County Council for Athy Southern Distributor Road for May 4th 2021 to May 3rd 2022. Closure of athy canal side to facilitate construction of Distributor road. Is this the start of construction or has it already begun

    https://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/PressReleasesAdverts/TemporaryRoadClosure-NoticeofIntention-CanalSideAthy.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Stan27


    Anyone know its progress?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Very little from anything I’ve seen. Seemed to have stalked completely. Not surprising with an idiot like Martin Heydi



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭rameire


    Athy Southern Distributor road has got the green light.

    Hopefully will start within the next month.

    BAM have the contract.


    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭cargo


    Did BAM get out on the ground before the end of 2021 with this?

    They spoke of been on site shortly after contract signing but no dates given for start or end in anything I've read. https://www.bam.com/en/press/press-releases/2021/10/kildare-county-council-awards-contract-for-athy-distributor-road

    Looks a fairly easy build other than a new river crossing. There was already prelim work done on this from what i can see (removing old structures / asbestos etc) so should progress rapidly once they put a digger on site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭rameire


    Unfortunately I don't know, I have moved away from Athy so not on top of local activity anymore.

    There seems to be radio silence on social platforms regarding it especially from the local Politicians.


    @Pablod May have an idea if they see this.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high



    passed through athy a few weeks and didn’t see a thing going on. Usually that prat Martin Heydon TD would be going on about it if anything was happening



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭rameire


    A Tweet from CISIreland advising that BAM have commenced construction on the Athy Distributer Road.


    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭Pablod


    Yes, @rameire

    They are on site about 3-4 weeks and they have started clearing (A LOT OF CLEARING) either side of the R417 along the old railway line,

    Will try grab pics over next few days and throw up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    I won't believe it until I see the proof 😃😃😃


    I remember going to the peerless rug company on a school trip (md's son was in my class) and there was talk about how the "soon to be started" bypass would make things better and that they had been waiting a few years by then.


    That was circa 1980


    So photos or I won't believe it 😃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭Pablod


    Fair enough.... i'll have to go get photos now....

    I know PICs or GTFO 😂🤣



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭Pablod


    Here you go folks @rameire @silver2020

    Few brief pics over last few days on Athy-Carlow road (R417) by old railway line along the back of the Rugby grounds

    the last pic is from the R418 Castledermot road where they have just started works last few days to join up with R417




  • Registered Users Posts: 34 FreedomOfSpeechAndChoice


    Looks like we have our new "M17" for this thread.


    Thanks for the pics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    Would be great to get the trucks out. The town centre needs serious remodeling with a big central pedestrianised space.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Great to see this one get underway after many decades of talking



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭Pablod


    Another quick update folks...

    One of the local photographers took some drone footage yesterday

    (hopefully link appears OK below)

    Szeremeta Rafal - New Road progress | Facebook



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Looks to be plenty going on anyhow. Saw plenty of progress and site works off the train and also on the Castledermot road. Also lights on the Castlecomer road- big project but it should be very worthwhile



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Are the junctions going to be roundabouts? I’d hate to see traffic lights tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    There will be a new roundabouts at ends, but drawings have the intermediate junctions as at-grade, light controlled crossings: this is an urban relief road, not a bypass.

    From the planning application:

    • 3.4km of urban arterial road (Type 3 single carriageway), incorporating pedestrian and cycle facilities;
    • Two new roundabouts – one on the N78 Kilkenny Road south-west of Athy town centre and one on the R418 Castledermot Road south-east of the town;
    • One connection to an existing roundabout – N78/M9 link road / R418 Kilcullen Road east of Athy town centre;
    • Two signalised cross-roads junctions, at Fortbarrington Road and at the R417 Carlow Road, both incorporating right turning lanes and pedestrian/cycle crossings;
    • One river bridge with an 80m single span over the River Barrow;
    • One railway bridge over the Dublin-Waterford railway line


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭Pablod


    Hopefully you'll be able to view this ok....

    Quick drone footage of progress from R418 side down back of Rugby grounds...

    https://www.facebook.com/CouncillorMarkLeigh/videos/637594297707074



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭rameire


    Thanks Pablo, its looking good to see it progressing. I might buy you a pint at the end of the month.

    great to see everybody out whinging on Facemuck as well.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭Pablod


    More photos from local Senator

    Some of the photos to shut the FB wingers up about the road not being wide enough... 🤣

    https://www.facebook.com/mark.wall.1272/posts/pfbid02sTCKqYBmcSypAHiV64r635NmJFvGtVwwoWk5VxAoHkUKBpsXAtsXWoi4uyEqxsX8l



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 hgj


    Hi everyone,


    What do you think it will happen in terms of noise levels this new roads sections to close neighborhoods like Corran, Dún Brinn or Coneyboro? Something to concern about it? Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Seems to be progressing well. Roundabout at the castlecomer road end completed now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭ffocused




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭rameire


    Nice to see it opening soon.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Should make a big difference- if you’re travelling from north Kilkenny to Dublin direction I wonder will it make the N78 more convenient than joining the M9 further south and saving some kms

    Post edited by road_high on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭rameire


    Should be open around 7pm today.

    All the lads have been out for their photoshoot.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Those photo opps piss me off as we have to wait around for days or even weeks to got their narcissistic diaries as taxpayers paying for the schemes…

    But let’s stay positive and this should be a great scheme- is the N78 to be redesignated to the new road?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Anyone tried the new relief road yet?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭JVince


    I suspect the photo is fake :)

    I'll have to drive to athy to see it before I believe it.



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