San Francisco 49ers Discussion

EKRIUQ · 03-12-2012 8:56pm

Ok, If the Niners won yesterday they would have locked up the #2 seed! The only way they would lose it is if they went 2-2 the rest of the way while the packers or bears went 4-0!!!

If they beat the dolphins and patriots then Gore could've rested the last 2 weeks. But of course that's not the case anymore.

Now if the Niners go 3-1 they will lose the #2 seed if the packers or bears go 4-0.

Yesterday was a HUGE loss, more than what most people think.

mickmc7 · 03-12-2012 8:57pm

Incredible to think we haven't been able to win 3 on the spin all season despite at times looking completely dominant.. Doesn't augur well for the playoffs! I still believe we're the most complete team out there when we click. Huge games at Seattle and New England. Please don't blow this!

adrian522 · 10-12-2012 5:04pm

Beat the Dolphins 27-13 yesterday, some good and some bad in the performance.

The Good:

Colin Kaepernick was very efficient and didn't force the ball into coverage going 18/23 for 185 yards and 100.2 passer rating. He also had a 50 yard rushing TD to ice the game right at the end.
Frank Gore looked very good, equalling the 49ers rushing TD record with 50 and gaining his 6th 1000 yard rushing season. The 49ers seem to be reducing his workload in the hope of keeping him fresh for the playoffs. He only carried the ball 12 times, he also made a huge play in the passing game picking up 19 on a screen play on 2nd and 20.
Lamichael James looked very good, with 8 carries for 30 yards, and 15 recieving yards. He could be a huge bonus for us heading into the playoffs, assuminng we are indeed heading into the playoffs.
Aldon Smith scored 2 more sacks, giving him the 49ers single season record and inching him ever closer to the NFL single season record. He needs 3.5 more sacks to equal this and with the Cardinals still to play that looks doable.

The not so good

Colin Kaepernick put the ball on the ground on the 49ers first drive luckily recovered by the offense. He also seemed hesitant to throw the ball down the field at times which resulted in him taking a few sacks (4 in total).
We had to use timeouts where Kaepernick didn't seem aware of the play clock running down and still trying to change plays.
The 49ers were awful on 3rd down and against a better team would probably have cost us.
Special teams gave up another long kickoff return, which det the Dolphins up nicely at mid-field.
Harbaugh again wasted a challenge and our last timeout on a pretty silly challenge, he does this far too often to be honest.

Not too muck else to take from this game, a good win against a decent enough defense, our offense struggled at times, but you can't argue with a win at this time of year.

The 49ers now lie at 9-3-1, the seahawks are 1.5 games back. With the Packers winning they are now 9-4, half a game back in the race for the second seed.

The 49ers now know that there are 2 huge road games coming up. Sunday night in New England and the following week in Seattle, beofre finishing up against the hapless Cardinals.

In order to hold onto the number 2 seed the 49ers are likely to need to win out. The Packers face the Bears, Titans and Vikings.

In order to secure the division the 49ers need to beat either the Patriots or the Seahawks, if they lose both of those we would be left looking for a wildcard berth as the Seahawks play Buffalo and St. Louis in their last 2 games.

In other news Pete Carroll suddenly seems a lot less touchy about teams running up the score then when he was at USC. Going for it on 4th and 23 or whatever when up by 50 is a probably a bit much.

adrian522 · 10-12-2012 10:49pm

Don't plan anything big for the next 2 Mondays as the niners are on SNF @ New England this Sunday and the game the following week @ Seattle has just been moved to the late slot also.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000108773/article/ninersseahawks-week-16-game-flexed-to-snf

In other news Brandon Jacobs has been released after a series of idiotic tweets and doing nothing all year.

mickmc7 · 11-12-2012 9:41am

Just reading about Jacobs there, said he is suspended for last 3 games. Strange that he never got a chance after recovering from injury but his tweets are like those from a spoilt brat. I didn't know that he regularly spends 20 minutes pre game punching the goal post padding, his way of dealing with the situation. Riiiight.

adrian522 · 13-12-2012 5:38pm

So the Patriots on Sunday night, should be pushovers.

Playoff scnarios for the weekend aka who to root for in the early games:

49ers Seal the division with:

49ers win + Seattle loss

That was the easy bit.

49ers Clinch a playoff spot with:

49ers win

or

49ers tie + DAL loss or tie + WAS loss or tie + MIN loss or tie

or

49ers tie + DAL loss or tie + WAS loss or tie + GB-CHI does not end in tie

or

49ers tie + DAL loss or tie + MIN loss or tie + Chicago loss

or

49ers tie + NYG loss or + MIN loss or tie + Chi loss

or

49ers lose + MIN loss + DAL loss + WAS loss + SEA loss or tie

Easy.

HigginsJ · 13-12-2012 9:09pm

mickmc7 wrote: »

Just reading about Jacobs there, said he is suspended for last 3 games. Strange that he never got a chance after recovering from injury but his tweets are like those from a spoilt brat. I didn't know that he regularly spends 20 minutes pre game punching the goal post padding, his way of dealing with the situation. Riiiight.

What a nutter butter. He was apparently trying to engineer a release to get back to the Giants (thank god that didn't happen)

49ers missed nothing with Jacobs this year. He is washed up and is a super diva on par with TO/Chad/Moss

adrian522 · 13-12-2012 10:09pm

Exactly the same situation has Braylon Edwards last year, waste of a roster spot. Especially at RB where you have Gore, Hunter,James, Dixon

adrian522 · 14-12-2012 2:46pm

So a a confidence rating of 1 to 5 (1 being no chance, 5 being sure thing) how confident are you that we will beat the Patriots?

I think I started the week around 2, but I think I've edged my way up to a 3. The 49ers haven't been great the last few weeks but if they can bring their best performance I think we have a chance.

I think the Patriots secondary could give up points and to win we will probably need to put up points and control the clock.

Very excited by it, a little nervous but I don't think we will get blown out by any means.

Masked Man · 14-12-2012 3:29pm

You think there's a ~60% chance that the patriots lose this game?

adrian522 · 14-12-2012 4:11pm

I'd see at as more of a 50 50 type game which is why I'm wavering between a 2 and a 3, if I was being objective and neutral I'd give the Pats a slight edge. But objectivity and neutrality go out the window where the 49ers are concerned.

I don't buy into the general consensus that NE are going to march to the superbowl based on their performance against Houston.

The last time the Niners were 6 point underdogs? Week 1 at Lambeau field. Must re-watch that one.

mickmc7 · 14-12-2012 5:59pm

Similar to Adrian I find myself becoming more confident as this week has progressed. Obviously it's a huge task, patriots are THE form team right now and their offence is at times unstoppable. But the 9'ers D will be relishing this challenge. Their chances of winning depend on them slowing the game right down and forcing the patriots into mistakes and hopefully turnovers. Kaep and co need to make the most of the chances they get too. I think it will be closer than the 5 point spread, I give us a shot.

Masked Man · 14-12-2012 6:14pm

Patriots are on fire right now and this game is in New England. 49ers have to travel like 2500/3000 miles to go the patriots in December.

Anybody that says we're going to march to the SB is kind of an idiot, but we're obviously favorites after Monday. And I don't think any reasonable pats fan is part of that general consensus.

Forcing the patriots to turnover the ball is sooo much easier said than done. It's not something we really do. Brady did some preparation for your D after the Jets game on thanksgiving and started watching film straight after the Houston game. Your D will probably need to have a stellar night for the niners to have a chance.

I'm really trying to be objective here but we have to be at least 60/40 to win this game.

adrian522 · 14-12-2012 6:19pm

Eerily reminiscent of the Saints game last January in many respects.

Leagues best offense against best defense. Not too many siding with the 49ers.

49ers will need to control the clock, get pressure on Brady and win the turnover battle.

Also Kaepernick will need to control the play clock much better than last week where it cost us 4 timeouts.

A big ask? certainly but not impossible.

Don't forget the Patriots are coming off a short week.

One to look forward to certainly. While a defeat isn't the end of the world I really don't want the niners going to Seattle next Sunday night with the division title on the line.

Very excited.

mickmc7 · 17-12-2012 6:11am

Wow, just wow. Bedtime.

adrian522 · 17-12-2012 12:51pm

Well that was ..........interesting to say the least.

Got out of New England with a win in December, facing 65 pass attempts from Brady, but putting up enough points to see us through. Just.

Thoughts:

Kaepernick threw 4 TD passes, Alex Smith never managed this during his career. He made a lot of good decisions, other than the INT he played a very good game. Could have had a few more scores, just missed on a couple of throws.

David Ackers, really needs to sort out his FG kicking or it's going to cost us in January.

Ted Ginn looked horrible on the punt returns, really hesitant and lucky not to turn one over.

How many fumbles between Goodwin and Kaepernick? One of them resulted in a TD but still something that needs sorting out.

Frank Gore is amazing, hopefully he breaks the 49ers rushing TD record next week.

Playcalling got overly conservative in the third quarter. Both on offense and defense.

Lamichael James, that kick off return swung the momentum back our way after giving up 4 TD's in succession.

Defense came up huge when it really mattered, got pressure on Brady and played really well for the most part.

Defense got by without Justin Smith for most of the second half, hopefully his injury is not too serious.

Crabtree is having a great year, 2 TD's and over 100 yards last night.

Delanie Walker made some nice plays, scored a TD and recovered the onside kick.

Any reason Brady didn't draw an unsprortsmanlike penalty when he threw the ball into the ground full force after the 49ers got a timeout off on defense in the second half?

Great game, really dug out the win when it looked like we were going to capitulate completely.

So the 49ers will wrap up the division with a win in either of the last 2 games (@ Seattle or v Arizona). We remain a half game ahead of Green Bay in the race for the number 2 seed.

Dymo · 17-12-2012 1:31pm

Jeez late night, quarter past 5 when I got to bed . I found this game to be different than the last couple. For once Kapernick was aloud to throw the ball and with great effect, wasn't perfect but very effective and the plays in the first half were really working especially the fake punt.

The defense seemed to fall apart with Justin Smith was injured and they came up against the unstoppable machine that is Tom Brady. But sign of just how good they are is when it was 31-31 and the quick TD. This really puts them back as real Superbowl contenders but the one big question that is being asked, is Ackers up to it in tight games?

I know everyone is giving the refs a hard time, but like my grandfather used to say: The day I can't do my job drunk is the day I turn in my badge and gun.

adrian522 · 21-12-2012 11:16am

Seahawks Sunday night, big game, but not as big a gmae as it would have been if we had failed to beat the Patriots.

The 49ers can wrap up the division with a win here or a win against Arizona next week.

In order to secure the 2nd seed and a first round bye we need a 49ers win and a Packers loss. If both teams win the 49ers would need to beat Arizona to secure the 2 seed.

Justin Smith has not taken part in practice this week and would seem a long shot to play. Seahawks CB Richard Sherman sat out practice also, presumably dealing with his appeal against a suspension, if that appeal is unsuccessful then he would b unable to play, should hear more later on today.

Morrisseeee · 21-12-2012 12:16pm

Fair play lads, great (no..........monumental) win for ye.
I have to LOL at the Pats fans excuses at the loss, I watched the whole game & have to say the 49ers were by far the better team, ye must fancy a crack at the SB now ??!!
The one thing that really grabbed my attention was Kaepernick's attitude, he showed no fear, he just let it rip, if I was a 49ers fan I'd be very happy/excited about the future !

adrian522 · 21-12-2012 12:39pm

I've been hugely impressed with Kaepernick, he has been making really good decisions for the most part, has made some big plays and hasn't really turned it over to much.

He makes throws that Smith used to just not make , so is not quite as safe but has much better upside.

The fact that he has a few games under his belt going into the playoffs is very beneficial.

He obviosuly needs to sort out the fumbles on the snap that happened against the Patriots.

His stats so far, for games he has started are something like this:

v Chicago:

243 yards 2 TD's 0 INT 133.1 rating

@ Saints

231 yards 1 TD 1 INT 90.6

@ Rams

208 yards 0 TD 0 INT 83.8

v Dolphins

185 yards 0 TD 0 INT 100.2

@ Patriots

216 yards 4 TD 1 INT 107.7

Total 1083 yards 7 TD's 2 Interceptions 66.7 completion pct.

His passer rating for the year is 101.5

Rushing he also has 379 yards and 5 TD's for the season

adrian522 · 21-12-2012 12:48pm

Gotta love this headline

Niners' Goldson racks up $77,500 in NFL fines for pants, hits

mickmc7 · 24-12-2012 9:32am

Outfought, outmuscled, outthought. Nothing happened for us last night, unable to gain any momentum when we had the ball and defence struggled all night. Are we really that reliant on Justin Smith? In fairness to the Seahawks they have hit top gear at the right time and they look a serious outfit. Kaepernick seemed to struggle with the crowd noise, he better adapt quickly because looks like we'll be on the road for the duration.
To get to New Orleans we're going to have to do something we've not been able to do all season, win 3 games on the bounce.

adrian522 · 24-12-2012 11:03am

mickmc7 wrote: »

Outfought, outmuscled, outthought. Nothing happened for us last night, unable to gain any momentum when we had the ball and defence struggled all night. Are we really that reliant on Justin Smith? In fairness to the Seahawks they have hit top gear at the right time and they look a serious outfit. Kaepernick seemed to struggle with the crowd noise, he better adapt quickly because looks like we'll be on the road for the duration.
To get to New Orleans we're going to have to do something we've not been able to do all season, win 3 games on the bounce.

Completely agree. utterly toothless performance.

The defense got walked all over. They picked out a stat last night on the overall score between the 2nd half against the patriots and the 4 quarters last night the 49ers have conceded some crazy amount of points.

Vernon Davis got a concussion, hopefully he'll be back for the playoffs. Manningham got what looked like a nasty knee injury, I'd be surprised if he plays again this year. Justin Smith is out for next weeks game against Arizona, and as we've seen from when he went out the defense really needs him out there.

There was a lot of talk on the Week 16 thread about dropping Kaepernick and bringing Smith back. That would be utterly stupid in my opinion and a completely backwards step.

As far as the game is concerned the 49ers just got behind early and never really looked like getting back in the game. Easily the worst performance since Harbaugh arrived I would say.

It's hard to know where they go from here. Need to re-group and get back to basics.

The good thing is they have a home game against a poor team to wrap up the regular season. Beat Arizona, wrap up the division maybe Aldon Smith can get the sack record and then get ready for the playoffs.

We'll likely have to play a wildcard game unless the Vikings can beat the packers. That makes things doubly difficult as we'd likely wind up playing Green Bay on the road if we make it that far.

mickmc7 · 24-12-2012 11:49am

I didn't realise the packers have to play the Vikings, away. That's cheered me up a bit.

adrian522 · 24-12-2012 11:57am

Don't see them losing to be honest, maybe if Peterson gets going they can control the clock etc but I'd be very surprised if the Packers were to lose next week/

kmart6 · 25-12-2012 2:53am

No luck for the 49ers

Adam Schefter wrote:

More brutal injuries: 49ers wide receiver Mario Manningham tore his ACL and PCL Sunday night vs. Seattle. Done for season.

adrian522 · 25-12-2012 12:20pm

kmart6 wrote: »

No luck for the 49ers

That's horrible but not really unexpected given how he went down.

Hopefully Vernon Davis gets over his concussion because we are now paper thin at receiver.

Crabtree, moss, ginn and Jenkins. Guess we'll find out if our first round draft choice is any good.

mickmc7 · 27-12-2012 7:36pm

Partially torn triceps for Smith, we're really getting hammered with the injuries right now. I believe the plan is for him to play through the pain but you'd have your doubts how long he'll last or how effective he'd be.

adrian522 · 31-12-2012 2:12am

Well the niners need to send Adrian Peterson a thank you card, as the Vikings send the 49ers to the number 2 seed,

also th 49ers need to find a kicker for the playoffs. Going for it on 4th down all the time is all well and good against the hapless Cards, but wont get it done in January.

adrian522 · 31-12-2012 2:40am

NFC West Champs again

http://instagram.com/p/T4Xb4uiei9/

mickmc7 · 31-12-2012 9:59am

Great result for the Vikings last night, what a huge difference that could make. Crystal ball time- beat greenbay and set up an NFC championship game at the stick against the Seahawks. They won't beat us again.
But one step at a time....sit back next weekend and enjoy the wildcard games.

mickmc7 · 01-01-2013 10:32pm

My god, this does not inspire me.

@AdamSchefter: 49ers signed K Billy Cundiff.

Pudsy33 · 01-01-2013 10:52pm

Was just coming in to post this, he must have impressed in tryouts. Wonder if his head is right.

matthew8 · 01-01-2013 11:00pm

Well if you're going to miss every FG you may as well get a touchback on every kickoff. I'd sign Eddy Carmona from across the bay though. Sure he's only an UDFA but he can really kick.

adrian522 · 01-01-2013 11:26pm

Well, they had to do something in fairness, wonder if they'll ditch Ackers or let them battle it out over the next week or so..

mickmc7 · 03-01-2013 6:54pm

Tickets for the 49ers wembley game on sale next Thursday morning. Great opportunity to see the superbowl champs in the flesh!

adrian522 · 04-01-2013 12:17am

So who do you want in the divisional?

Green Bay, Seattle or Washington?

Each bring their own set of problems, we've beaten Green Bay already, are 1-1 against the Seahawks and haven't played Washington yet.

I'd love another crack at Seattle, as I think it would be a great game and it would give us a chance to put right some of the things that went wrong that night in Seattle.

Green Bay, I think would be tough, they are running into a bit of form and have all their players back, I'd still give us a good chance at home, but I'd be worried about Rodgers, especially given our struggles rushing the passer of late.

As for the redskins, RGII and Alfred Morris scare me to be honest, I think they are the worst matchup of the 3, their pass defense is poor but they usually come up with a good game plan and the offense they run is so hard to stop,

In for a great game no matter what really, now to sit back and enjoy the wildcard matchups.

mickmc7 · 04-01-2013 11:11pm

I'm hardly going out on a limb by saying I reckon we'll end up playing the packers. And to be honest, I'm happy enough and I'd be very confident in us progressing. Redskins wouldn't cause me too much concern should it be them and I bloody can't wait to pummel the Seahawks at the stick in the championship game should it pan out that way. I'm feeling good about our chances right now!!!
Great to see smith back in training too, so important.

Dymo · 05-01-2013 2:07pm

Its great to have this bye week, we can sit back look at whats happening in the division I think the AFC will end up with the Patriots and the Bronco's but the NFC is a different ball game. Washington on a 6 winning streak, Seattle really coming strong towards the end of the season but I think we'll end up playing the Packers and that's going to be a tough game a lot has happened since the first game of the season but hopefully were going to be more complete than we were for the last few games. Kapernick seems to play well as long as he's allowed to throw the ball and with out J Smith the defense have show up a lot more frailty and Aldon hasn't got the room he had before. Its going to be a nerve biting weekend next weekend.

adrian522 · 06-01-2013 3:17pm

So it's the Packers, they've got pretty much all of their players back now, and while they didn't face much opposition from Webb, I thought they looked good.

It should be a cracking game anyway, 49ers will need Justin Smith back and playing something close to 100%.

Absolutely need to be getting pressure on Rodgers.

Offensively we will need to establish the run, Gore hasn't had a 100 yard game since week 7.

I'm pretty confident that Kaepernick will be ready for his first playoff game....

Anyway, thought I'd post this up, the epic end to the last time the Packers and 49ers met in the playoffs at candlestick, Favre,Young, TO etc...

mongoman · 06-01-2013 10:51pm

I'm a long time Niners fan who grew up with Montana, first time to post in here. Glad to see Smith getting sidelined, tough alright, but kaepernick brings an x factor Smith hasn't got. Green Bay are coming on form at the right time, it's gonna be close.

woodchopper · 06-01-2013 11:21pm

mongoman wrote: »

I'm a long time Niners fan who grew up with Montana, first time to post in here. Glad to see Smith getting sidelined, tough alright, but kaepernick brings an x factor Smith hasn't got. Green Bay are coming on form at the right time, it's gonna be close.

Green Bay for the win. The 49ners always flatter to deceive in playoff football during the modern era

adrian522 · 06-01-2013 11:26pm

woodchopper wrote: »

Green Bay for the win. The 49ners always flatter to deceive in playoff football

Do they? must have been when I wasn't looking.

Packers fans seem very confident, not sure where it's coming from to be honest.

woodchopper · 06-01-2013 11:32pm

adrian522 wrote: »

Do they? must have been when I wasn't looking.

Packers fans seem very confident, not sure where it's coming from to be honest.

One Superbowl appearance in 20 odd years ?

adrian522 · 06-01-2013 11:36pm

Point me to these playoffs where they "always flatter to deceive".

woodchopper · 06-01-2013 11:47pm

adrian522 wrote: »

Point me to these playoffs where they "always flatter to deceive".

Since 1990 the Giants, the Cowboys and the Packers have been in the Superbowl 3 times more than the 49ners. No doubt the 1980s was the decade of the 49ners but in the modern era they have come up short whilst a side like the Saints have won the big one since the noughties.

adrian522 · 06-01-2013 11:54pm

So not being in the playoffs is"always flattering to deceive in the playoffs"?

woodchopper · 06-01-2013 11:57pm

adrian522 wrote: »

So not being in the playoffs is"always flattering to deceive in the playoffs"?

They have been in the playoff but come unstuck

adrian522 · 07-01-2013 12:00am

You're going back an awful long way there.. Before last year it was 10 years ago since we were in the playoffs which makes it pretty much irrelevant as far as this game goes.

woodchopper · 07-01-2013 12:09am

adrian522 wrote: »

You're going back an awful long way there.. Before last year it was 10 years ago since we were in the playoffs which makes it pretty much irrelevant as far as this game goes.

Taking your point on board then the 49ners given their past record under Montana have underperformed terribly over the last decade while the Giants, Green Bay, and the Saints have all one the big one and in some cases more than once. Therefore this points to my original confidence in Green Bay winning in Candle Stick because Green Bay in the recent past have shown they are a big time team whilst San Fran bottled it last year at home. They remind me of the Falcons in that way

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