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Hotblack Desiato · 31-01-2019 4:30pm

^ cage talk

macplaxton · 01-02-2019 2:26pm

^ cage talk?

B1 used to include uncaged vehicles too :P

Sgt. Bilko 09 · 10-02-2019 11:14pm

Hey all how much is it roughly.to insured a 600cc as a learner?

honda boi · 10-02-2019 11:17pm

Sgt. Bilko 09 wrote: »

Hey all how much is it roughly.to insured a 600cc as a learner?

https://quotes.libertyinsurance.ie/IFI/publicviewclient.do?productcode=QMB&corpunit=GEI
Throw your details in here .

Sgt. Bilko 09 · 10-02-2019 11:56pm

honda boi wrote:

Throw your details in here .

Cheer's man

Was expecting worse.

600 CBF was 869 fully comp

IrishGrimReaper · 11-02-2019 12:04am

Make sure ring Carole Nash and Principle too. Don't just go with Liberty because you can get an online quote.

Sgt. Bilko 09 · 11-02-2019 12:11am

I'm doing the Carole Nash one at the moment. If you have any other ideas please let me know.

Appreciate the help lads

IrishGrimReaper · 11-02-2019 12:18am

I got insured on a 125cc on a learner permit and changed to a Cbf600 4 months in. I estimate the FC price on the CBF for the full 12 months is around the 550 euro mark(I'm 30 and the bike is parked on the street). It should go down a decent bit for my first renewal as I'll have my full license for that.

Enjoy the bike, there's a solid underrated machine.

Sgt. Bilko 09 · 11-02-2019 9:12am

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

I got insured on a 125cc on a learner permit and changed to a Cbf600 4 months in. I estimate the FC price on the CBF for the full 12 months is around the 550 euro mark(I'm 30 and the bike is parked on the street). It should go down a decent bit for my first renewal as I'll have my full license for that.

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

Enjoy the bike, there's a solid underrated machine.

Cheers man, CN quote crashed on me I'll have a look again today.

Thanks for the heads up with the above. My financial situation I wouldn't be able to move up or down .What I get I'll have to do with for a while.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 11-02-2019 9:16am

Sgt. Bilko 09 wrote: »

Cheers man, CN quote crashed on me I'll have a look again today.

Thanks for the heads up with the above. My financial situation I wouldn't be able to move up or down .What I get I'll have to do with for a while.

When i was getting my own quotes last year Liberty were by far the most expensive.

Principal & CN seem at odds with each other and after a few calls to either side the prices kept dropping until both could do no more once it hit €400.

MCE are another company, they were due to leave the Irish market but then either didn't or changed their mind or something.

All worth a try of course.

In relation to the CBR600F, only MCE would insure me on one when i went for a quote.

Liberty said i needed either a full licence or 2 years NCB at the time for that. CN/Principal same.

BaronVon · 11-02-2019 10:33am

Sgt. Bilko 09 wrote: »

I'm doing the Carole Nash one at the moment. If you have any other ideas please let me know.

Appreciate the help lads

https://megabikes.ie/insurance/

IrishGrimReaper · 11-02-2019 12:07pm

You'll need to ring Carole Nash directly and get a quote that way, same for Principle.

kokiyou · 14-02-2019 5:48pm

Any recommended videos / reading for me before I start IBT sessions in 2 weeks?
Complete noob.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 14-02-2019 6:12pm

kokiyou wrote: »

Any recommended videos / reading for me before I start IBT sessions in 2 weeks?
Complete noob.

Something like this?

Rules of the road below

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Learner%20Drivers/Rules_of_the_road.pdf

zubair · 15-02-2019 10:29am

kokiyou wrote: »

Any recommended videos / reading for me before I start IBT sessions in 2 weeks?
Complete noob.

TOFTW2

Don't concern yourself with too much of it when starting out but it is a great guide...

Also, the RSA do a motorbike for beginners book...

https://www.easons.com/learning-to-ride-a-motorcycle-fs-prometric-ireland-ltd-9780956793119?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8-CgnLa94AIVw7TtCh23QgrZEAQYASABEgIeYPD_BwE

killianb2001 · 17-02-2019 7:12am

hi, Im a fairly new biker and Im moving up to my A2 soon and am wondering what a the best bikes for the licence, I dont really want something ill get bored of too quick like a 250 or 300 and i dont really like the look of the bandit. Id really appreciate any help thanks

Sonics2k · 18-02-2019 10:52am

killianb2001 wrote: »

hi, Im a fairly new biker and Im moving up to my A2 soon and am wondering what a the best bikes for the licence, I dont really want something ill get bored of too quick like a 250 or 300 and i dont really like the look of the bandit. Id really appreciate any help thanks

Is there any particular style of bike that jumps out to you? Naked, street, tourer, cruiser etc?

Best advice would be to walk around some of your local bike shops and try each one out, if only just to sit on them.

Nozebleed · 18-02-2019 1:10pm

killianb2001 wrote: »

hi, Im a fairly new biker and Im moving up to my A2 soon and am wondering what a the best bikes for the licence, I dont really want something ill get bored of too quick like a 250 or 300 and i dont really like the look of the bandit. Id really appreciate any help thanks

i have a BMW g650gs..its my first bike. having ben looking for a cbf600 for some months i finally settled on the gs. i find it tall with a great view of the road,also light and easy to ride. i highly recommend it as an A2 bike. it has plenty of power for new riders too.

killianb2001 · 18-02-2019 10:59pm

Sonics2k wrote: »

Is there any particular style of bike that jumps out to you? Naked, street, tourer, cruiser etc?

Best advice would be to walk around some of your local bike shops and try each one out, if only just to sit on them.

Most probably a sport, Im really leaning towards a Kawasaki zxr 400 and similar styles, but im a bit hung up on how old they are and the fact they're carbureted.

Mickiemcfist · 23-02-2019 2:18am

What's the going rate for IBT with a bike rental these days? 29 & Looking to train to get the full motorbike licence but price sensitive!

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 23-02-2019 8:24am

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

What's the going rate for IBT with a bike rental these days? 29 & Looking to train to get the full motorbike licence but price sensitive!

Cost me €500 to do Category A IBT

Mickiemcfist · 23-02-2019 9:47am

Killian Large Motel wrote: »

Cost me €500 to do Category A IBT

Cheers. Jesus you really get nailed in year 1 between the high insurance, bike purchase & the IBT

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 23-02-2019 10:20am

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

Cheers. Jesus you really get nailed in year 1 between the high insurance, bike purchase & the IBT

I'm still in my first year (technically, had a provisional years ago, it lapsed so i had to start again)

IBT €500
Insurance €400 fully comprehensive on a DL650 V-Strom & Yamaha Aerox Moped,quote was given/policy bought on a learner permit with 0 NCB.

The bike is the one area where the you control the price, my bike wasn't cheap but that was what i wanted in the end.

Passed my test just after new years.

Policy is up for renewal in July.

Went from IBT to full licence in just under 6 months from the time i did the training.

Have you eyes on a particular bike? I take it you want to do the full A? If you're over 24 you can do direct access, i.e go straight for the A IBT and then the A test.

Mickiemcfist · 23-02-2019 10:44am

Killian Large Motel wrote: »

I'm still in my first year (technically, had a provisional years ago, it lapsed so i had to start again)

IBT €500
Insurance €400 fully comprehensive on a DL650 V-Strom & Yamaha Aerox Moped,quote was given/policy bought on a learner permit with 0 NCB.

The bike is the one area where the you control the price, my bike wasn't cheap but that was what i wanted in the end.

Passed my test just after new years.

Policy is up for renewal in July.

Went from IBT to full licence in just under 6 months from the time i did the training.

Have you eyes on a particular bike? I take it you want to do the full A? If you're over 24 you can do direct access, i.e go straight for the A IBT and then the A test.

Yea I was going to go straight for the A as I'm 29, im a little over 100kg so looking to get something around 600cc like a bandit or cbr. Ideally I'd love a bobber style bike but they're fairly expensive.

Do you not get a refund once you tell the insurance company that you passed the test? That happened me when I passed my car test.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 23-02-2019 11:05am

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

Yea I was going to go straight for the A as I'm 29, im a little over 100kg so looking to get something around 600cc like a bandit or cbr. Ideally I'd love a bobber style bike but they're fairly expensive.

Do you not get a refund once you tell the insurance company that you passed the test? That happened me when I passed my car test.

Better off going for the A.

I'm 115kg myself on the DL.

Bandit would be no problem had one myself and loved it, i couldn't get insured on a CBR600F unless it was the 1998 model with Carole Nash or Principal on a learner permit. MCE did quote me but i was told at the time they were pulling out of the Irish market.

I wouldn't know much about bobber's, no doubt many of the other guys around here would.

No refund on passing the test,i was told 'it will be reflected in your renewal quote' i'm expecting the insurance to halve with an NCB and full licence under me if i'm honest.

You do get the refund for the car test, don't ask me why it's different with the bike, they couldn't explain it when i asked.

Nozebleed · 23-02-2019 2:10pm

I paid €440 for full A cat IBT. best price around from a guy based in thomas davis gaa club in Tallaght. he has an ad on done deal. nice guy in fairness.

Mickiemcfist · 23-02-2019 4:19pm

Nozebleed wrote: »

I paid €440 for full A cat IBT. best price around from a guy based in thomas davis gaa club in Tallaght. he has an ad on done deal. nice guy in fairness.

Cheers, tallaght suits me actually

myclist · 09-03-2019 10:11am

Have an A1 licence that I got when passing the car test in the uk back in 1989. Transferred to irish licence in mid 90s, So have a full A1 on irish licence for over 20 years. If I wanted to move up to A2 what would I need to do in terms of training modules. No big interest in the full A licence at my age(50). Having never done a theory test or IBT what is my situation? Thanks.

LookBehindYou · 10-03-2019 2:43am

myclist wrote: »

Have an A1 licence that I got when passing the car test in the uk back in 1989. Transferred to irish licence in mid 90s, So have a full A1 on irish licence for over 20 years. If I wanted to move up to A2 what would I need to do in terms of training modules. No big interest in the full A licence at my age(50). Having never done a theory test or IBT what is my situation? Thanks.[/QUOTE
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1, www.theorytest.ie............ apply for theory test for Motorcycle.

2 : www.ndls.ie ................... Apply for L/Permit in Category A2.

Contact a Motorbike Instructor to get a confirmation code from RSA for an upgrade.
An upgrade will consist of a full IBT ,,, Modules, 1,3 and 5.

After completion of IBT,,,, go to ndls office to apply for a full A2 Licence which will enable you to ride a bike that is restricted to 35 kw.
eg : A lot of cruisers fit in to that category. Suzuki Bandit, SV650, er6, etc.

Hotblack Desiato · 10-03-2019 7:54pm

It'd be nuts imho to go through that just to get an A2, might as well get the A even if you only want to ride an A2 bike at this time.

I'm sure several of us here are older than you and I'm only a couple of years younger...

UrbanFret · 11-03-2019 11:44pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

It'd be nuts imho to go through that just to get an A2, might as well get the A even if you only want to ride an A2 bike at this time.

I'm sure several of us here are older than you and I'm only a couple of years younger...

+1 to this. I'm 51 and Had been away from bikes for 33 years until this time last year. Get the A like Hotblack Desiato says. Leaves all options open.;)

LookBehindYou · 12-03-2019 5:08pm

To get an A, you would have to do a test. because its 2 steps up from a full A1

myclist · 12-03-2019 6:49pm

I hear what ye are saying about the full A. If I were to get the A2 Via the upgrade process would I need to do another training module before sitting the test for a full A?

horse7 · 12-03-2019 11:09pm

I have a full A and AXA want me to do the IBT lessons.

LookBehindYou · 13-03-2019 12:33pm

myclist wrote: »

I hear what ye are saying about the full A. If I were to get the A2 Via the upgrade process would I need to do another training module before sitting the test for a full A?

YES is the answer to that.
But you could do only 1 IBT if you went for the A category and done a bike test.

LookBehindYou · 13-03-2019 12:35pm

horse7 wrote: »

I have a full A and AXA want me to do the IBT lessons.

You may have misunderstood what axa meant.
They meant to get a rider assessment, which is NOT IBT.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 13-03-2019 12:47pm

LookBehindYou wrote: »

You may have misunderstood what axa meant.
They meant to get a rider assessment, which is NOT IBT.

This is what i tried to explain to horse7 on another thread, he has posted this same question in 3 different area's.

horse7 · 16-03-2019 8:40pm

Understand thanks,it's an assessment they want

Pique · 01-05-2019 12:16pm

Is there a for-sale thread in here? I've a 2-piece Berik leathers that need to go to a good home.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 01-05-2019 12:20pm

Pique wrote: »

Is there a for-sale thread in here? I've a 2-piece Berik leathers that need to go to a good home.

Here you go

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057833880/10/#post110007383

da wiseguy · 01-05-2019 10:12pm

Any tips on study for the full test?

Sonics2k · 02-05-2019 11:57am

da wiseguy wrote: »

Any tips on study for the full test?

Practice the route, learn the hand signals and signs. It's rare to fail on the latter, but it can happen if you get them totally wrong.

Aside from that, get out of the bad habits as much as possible. Literally spin your damn head around when approaching or taking any turns, because that's the hot button for all the testers. Always be moving your head -fully- on corners, and not just a glance.

zubair · 02-05-2019 6:23pm

Yep, shoulder check everything. If you fart, shoulder check.

da wiseguy · 03-05-2019 10:54am

Sonics2k wrote: »

Practice the route, learn the hand signals and signs. It's rare to fail on the latter, but it can happen if you get them totally wrong.

Aside from that, get out of the bad habits as much as possible. Literally spin your damn head around when approaching or taking any turns, because that's the hot button for all the testers. Always be moving your head -fully- on corners, and not just a glance.

Thanks Sonics!

I'm taking it at Dun Laoghaire test centre - anyone done their test there recently to be able to advise on the route? I saw some posts elsewhere here re route (from January) but was for cars - not sure if it is essentially the same route for bikes too.

da wiseguy · 03-05-2019 10:55am

zubair wrote: »

Yep, shoulder check everything. If you fart, shoulder check.

Hopefully the tester won't be too close behind me to get a face full of gas as he drives through

Hotblack Desiato · 05-05-2019 11:32pm

Do a pre-test with an instructor familiar with the area - they'll know the test route backwards and give you all the tips on the "gotchas" on the route.

boredatwork82 · 13-05-2019 7:40pm

I have a learner tabard. XL/2xl.

Anyone wants it for free PM me.

JCbiker · 15-05-2019 7:50pm

boredatwork82 wrote: »

I have a learner tabard. XL/2xl.

Anyone wants it for free PM me.

I'll take it off your hands if your Dublin based and pass it on when im done with it. (hopefully 6 months) 😁

Xodar · 23-05-2019 9:38pm

Apologies if this has been asked before: What is the initial cost to start riding?

Bike purchase cost €5,000 (and insurance - will vary) ....what are the rest of the costs?

24-05-2019 3:09pm

I'm looking into getting a max 125 commuter moped and I'm confused about the licences. I have an A licence even though I've never ridden a bike. Got my licence in 1999, was this normal back then?

Assuming I'm licenced, then what steps do I need to take to get on the road? I will obviously be taking lessons no matter what. Would IBT be enough for my own (and others!) Safety?

Also, what are peoples opinions on a Suzuki Address 110 for a 10km daily commute on local roads?

Lastly, should I buy the scooter first and then get lessons or do you generally get provided a bike and do your lessons first?

Much appreciated :-)

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