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Will you wear a helmet?

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  • #102
    bonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    3greenrizla's wrote: »
    Also do people replace their helmets after a bad fall, I have heard somewhere that it is recommended.

    I replaced mine, but that was because it was cracked right through.


  • #103
    Censorsh!t
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭Censorsh!t


    The last few years I havent worn a helmet anyway

    I'm not exactly wild on the slopes, I tend to take it pretty easy down the slopes. Also, I find helmets kind of claustorphobic (sp?). We never go during busy times like midterm, so there's not a very big risk.
    I probably should wear one, but I just hate the feel of them on my head. I can just about wear goggles without feeling all clammy


  • #104
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Censorsh!t wrote: »
    Also, I find helmets kind of claustorphobic (sp?). We never go during busy times like midterm, so there's not a very big risk.
    I probably should wear one, but I just hate the feel of them on my head. I can just about wear goggles without feeling all clammy

    I actually feel exposed with a ski helmet on, but then I'm used to wearing a motorbike helmet. My ski helmet is more comfortable than the bike one though, especially for wearing for long periods of time.


  • #105
    Shiny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Shiny


    Censorsh!t wrote: »
    The last few years I havent worn a helmet anyway

    I'm not exactly wild on the slopes, I tend to take it pretty easy down the slopes. Also, I find helmets kind of claustorphobic (sp?). We never go during busy times like midterm, so there's not a very big risk.
    I probably should wear one, but I just hate the feel of them on my head. I can just about wear goggles without feeling all clammy

    I think you can now get helmet liners which would reduce the clammy
    feeling of wearing a helmet while being active.

    I'm strongly considering renting a helmet this season, I have worn one
    already this year and was quite surprised how comfortable it was.


  • #106
    am i bovvered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭am i bovvered


    a helmet is great for reducing you goggles fogging up !


  • #107
    Censorsh!t
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭Censorsh!t


    Shiny wrote: »
    I think you can now get helmet liners which would reduce the clammy
    feeling of wearing a helmet while being active.

    I'm strongly considering renting a helmet this season, I have worn one
    already this year and was quite surprised how comfortable it was.

    I'll probably try one on in the hire shop, see how it feels. Although my head tends to feel clammy enough just wearing a hat and goggles! I won't be doing anything mad and I'll be keeping to the more intermediate slopes.


  • #108
    The Big Gig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭The Big Gig


    I usually suffer from getting too warm while wearing a hat but this year I got a helmet and have to say it was perfect for keeping warm when on the lifts etc and it never got too warm. Plus the added advantage of not getting injured.! Will be a regular item ony checklist from now on.


  • #109
    flikflak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭flikflak


    Never considered wearing a helmet before but after a trip over to Zell am See the other week with a lot of great skiers and seeing how each one of them had a helmet on I talked to them to ask why they wore one.

    The group consisted of one ski instructor (not working that week) and all his daughters and family who have been skiing since they were tiny and a few others that are also excellent skiers.

    They all said to me that they were wearing the helmet for the same reason they wear a seatbelt. It’s not for how you ski/drive but how others do. for example if there were no other cars on the road and you were a very good driver who obeyed all the rules of the road then it would be likely that you would never have an accident.

    They said the same goes for skiing. If they were skiing all day by themselves on a deserted piste then they would not feel the need for a helmet but with snow sports becoming more and more popular they can no longer rely on their skills and technique to stop someone crashing into them.

    Also last year a cousin of mine was on her board and went over a slight bump. She fell after clearing the bump but the next person coming over didn’t see her down there. She was not wearing a helmet and her first reaction to hearing another boarder coming was to put her arm up to protect her head.

    Well her head was fine but the board hit her arm as she was moving it up to protect her head and resulted in a plate and screws being put in to mend her broken arm.

    The boarder coming over the top (her brother) missed her head completely but struck her protective arm.

    So this year after my trip to Zell and talking to people I decided to buy a helmet. I got a really good deal and got a Salomon one for €85.


  • #110
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    ^ Which is why I'm more likely to be found wearing my helmet on the easy runs for protection. When wearing it on the more difficult runs it is becasue I've probably put the camera on and becasue it's actually warmer and less likely to fall off than a hat is in a gale on top of the hill.


  • #111
    stackerman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭stackerman


    Used one this year for the first time in over 18yrs, and cant understand why I didnt before. Alot warmer/cooler when needed, and much more confident with it on :D


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  • #112
    GarMani
    Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭GarMani


    I wear an helmet with a faceguard, armoured shirt, armoured shorts, knee pads and snowboard gloves with wrist plates front and back and gel pads when I'm skiing, ice skating or roller blading.

    Call me a big wus but.

    I love them all but don't like the pain. I fall and go: 'that should've hurt'.

    I'm a skier, but had one two-hour snowboard lesson. Used all the protection and was very glad of them.


  • #113
    GarMani
    Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭GarMani


    Mmmm Lemony said: Is there any way to pimp them up a bit? I'd love to make it look like masterchiefs...

    To pimp your helmet, you could try getting it tattooed and pierced and it would look really tough and hard. Or am I getting confused here?


    Also, my instructor reckons that, in the old days, there were no piste-bashers and you had cuboid planks under your feet so you either had good technique or you went slowly. Nowadays people have carving skis which do much of the work for you on smooth slopes so people are travelling much faster than their abilities.

    A similar comparison would be someone cycling a modern racing bike on a good smooth road as opposed to a rickety old high-nellie on a gravelly track. Which one can go faster? Which one should wear the helmet?

    It could be perceived that there's also a load of hardy men who have done a bit of skateboarding or surfing so they think that they can snowboard too, usually without lessons, with a few lunchtime bevvies in them, crunching the snow as they lash down with little control.

    Does that give you more reasons to wear a helmet?


  • #114
    GarMani
    Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭GarMani


    http://www.ski-injury.com/prevention/helmet
    Good discussion of scientific studies and statistical analyses of accident reports etc.


  • #115
    olaola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,139 ✭✭✭olaola


    Can you get helmets that don't cover your ears?


  • #116
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    The solid plastic bit won't come down over the ears on them usually, and the actual soft bits that cover your ears, and keep them warm, could be removed on a couple of the previous lids I've had.


  • #117
    flikflak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭flikflak


    My Salomon one has removable ear bits but they are so soft that I have never taken them off and can be found absently mindedly stroking them as they are sooooo soft!:D


  • #118
    GarMani
    Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭GarMani


    Who's the mad one with the helmet and body armour whilst skiing, ice skating and roller blading? ME. Recently I took my friend to A&E to have his hairy bloody gash stapled shut after hitting his head ice skating.
    He said that although he thinks it looks stupid, he'll wear a helmet next time.

    I fall often whilst ice skating and had sore knees for weeks after falling on knees on the day I forgot to bring my knee pads. I fell on my head and was shaken for a few minutes on the day I forgot my helmet. I let my armoured shorts slide down a little, MC Hammer style and fell and hurt my now-unprotected coccyx.

    I've found that falls whilst ice skating and snowboarding are a lot more sudden than those whilst skiing.


    Recently a girl died sledging near Frankfield golf course in Cork after hitting a tree.
    I've a friend who broke the back window of a Transit with his head on his bike and another who lost a year of college due to head trauma from a bike crash.
    Neither would wear a bike helmet after their accidents either although one of them wears a ski helmet now after breaking his tooth and shoulder skiing: he jumped a mogul at too high a speed for his abilities.

    He reckons that if he had my downhill mountain biking helmet with the faceguard that I use skiing he'd have not broken his tooth, but could have broken his neck.

    Anyone got any tips on a decent and comfortable neck brace to prevent hyperflexion of the neck if I hit my head? Some of the cheap ones just seem to be like a towel rolled into a ring around your neck, whilst some of the more advanced ones prevent/reduce hyperflexion and spinal compression too.


  • #119
    Holy Diver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Holy Diver


    ^ And the moral of the story is avoid GarMani on the slopes at all costs!! :)


  • #120
    Scuba Ste
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Scuba Ste


    Got a helmet last year in Switzerland where everyone seemed to be wearing them. Have to say they're more comfy than a hat and handy for leaving the goggles on. The GF got a fancy one with all kinds of adjustable vents which should make them more comfy for the clammy heads. I'll be bringing it again this time.


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  • #121
    micko123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭micko123


    Out of a group of 20 last year I was the only person with a helmet, most of the group thought it funny/interesting that I would wear one but when they found out that I was an 'expert' (i.e can ski a red slope and occasional black, very very far from expert in fact) then it made sense to them.

    It seemed to me that people who were inexperienced felt embarrassed by the thought of wearing a helmet as it would somehow imply that they were advanced skiers and confer a level of expectation upon them on the piste!

    To be honest in some ways the Irish approach is useful as it's very easy to spot a compatriot since the Paddy will be the skier without the helmet!


  • #122
    Fattes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭Fattes


    micko123; Last 3 holidays i have been on all the Irish on them have been wearing helmets!


  • #123
    creativedrinker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭creativedrinker


    Hey, I got a helmet the other day, picked one up in aldi for 25 quid so I know it's prob not the best, but I have smith I/o goggles and I find when their on the helmet that their really tight, is this normal??

    Was just trying it with the goggles to see how they fitted as it's my first time wearing a helmet.. Got knocked out last year, not having a repeat incase I do damage next time!!


  • #124
    olaola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,139 ✭✭✭olaola


    I got the Aldi one too - it conforms to the European safety standard (CE EN 1077), so I'm sure it's ok. What I liked about it was the ears are relatively open (not closely covered over) so it doesn't cut out any noise. I'll probably wear it a few days - see how it feels.


  • #125
    GarMani
    Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭GarMani


    creativedrinker wrote: »
    Hey, I got a helmet the other day, picked one up in aldi for 25 quid so I know it's prob not the best, but I have smith I/o goggles and I find when their on the helmet that their really tight, is this normal??

    QUOTE]

    The Aldi helmet has CE certification, but is not as comfortable as the Salomon one with a similar level of certification that I also bought.

    Goggles should be adjustable, but many old goggles are not helmet compatible and will not adjust wide enough for a head plus a helmet. iSport.ie have lots of quality goggles at reduced prices.


  • #126
    mossy95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭mossy95


    I only wear a helmet cause I mainly hit the jump parks when i go skiin i have a feeling im gona smack my head off a rail. When normal skiing i dont though


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  • #127
    poconnor16
    Registered Users Posts: 807 ✭✭✭poconnor16


    hate the bloody things but after a concussion from coming off a rail the wrong way (with no helmet on of course), I'd be a bit stupid not to be wearing one.


  • #128
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Thread closed and new poll started here so we can see if peoples opinions have changed over time.


This discussion has been closed.
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