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Aoife Dooley abused online after her article appeared in Junior Cert paper!

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 499 ✭✭SirGerryAdams


    KikiLaRue wrote: »
    Also, everyone knows cancer exists too but we still have breast cancer awareness initiatives because it’s still a problem.

    Do you think women getting rape threats should just put up and shut up?

    We have cancer fundraising.

    Frankly, anyone who isn't aware of breast cancer is never going to be aware of it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 499 ✭✭SirGerryAdams


    distributing child pornography is to be accepted? you have very low standards indeed. I would hope most of society has higher expectations.

    So her first port of call is to run off to the media and blab about it?

    I know if I felt threatened like she claim she is I'd be off to the guards right away, not giving ammo to other kids to send abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    So her first port of call is to run off to the media and blab about it?

    I know if I felt threatened like she claim she is I'd be off to the guards right away, not giving ammo to other kids to send abuse.

    now, now, dont skip over what you said. You said that stuff like this has to be accepted. "This" included the distribution of child pornography. there is absolutely no reason why any of this has to be accepted.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭ToBeFrank123


    Thankfully anecdote is not statistics and the %s in my experience do not match yours that closely at all.

    I think kids can start turning out pretty awful quite easily. It does not require the parents be scum or criminals. The best parents in the world can churn out awful kids.

    And it can be for little other reason than - as I said in the last post - the parents lack the time. Taking the easy road too often by letting the kids use the phone too much - or saying "Go out and play with your friends" too often.

    It is not just parenting either. I think we all have periods in our life where we know the right thing to do - and we fully intend to do it - but each day we find a reason to say "not today - I will get to it tomorrow".

    And with kids it does not take too much boredom - or lack of guidance - even from the most well intentioned and otherwise wonderful people who are their parents - to send them down a dark path.

    As I said the kids I started working with here locally were behaving in a way that would have most people write them off as irredeemable. I mean who physically accosts little old ladies???? Who does that??

    Yet it was _so easy_ for me to bring them back. They were not evil. They were not scum. Nor were their parents for the most part. They were all just a little bit lost. The same kids are now helping the same little old ladies carry their shopping all the way home from the shop and doing some of their gardening for them. They sometimes even just visit them to chat to make sure they are not lonely.

    It is and it isn't. Such parents can really feel that way. They just need to be shown the way sometimes. Since my work with the kids here locally I have been approached by parents who see me as the new local Jo Frost. And sometimes when I offer them advice they literally have a jaw drop moment of "I simply never thought of doing that".

    We do not get parenting education in our school curriculum. Isn't that odd? For many of us parenting is what we will be doing for what may even be the majority of our lives. And we get absolutely no education on it in our schools. Doesn't that fact feel a little bit weird???

    Its clear in this particular case, and others, the parents either don't know what their kids are up to online or don't care. Do they know they have twitter and other social media accounts. Do they monitor those accounts, do they monitor posts, do they have logins if required? If not they have no clue whats happening, no oversite, which ultimately is not great parenting.

    We all know social media has tremendous benefits but it also has potential for tremendous damage and bullying. We know this from recent tragic suicides in teenagers because of online bullying.

    Ultimately parents should supervise kids online and offline, to make sure they aren't bullying or being bullied. This includes not allowing phones in bedrooms.

    Personally I wouldn't let a kid have a social media account until they are at least 16 because of immaturity issues and we have seen an example of that in this case. Immature 15 year olds with licence to say what they want online without any comeback.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 499 ✭✭SirGerryAdams


    now, now, dont skip over what you said. You said that stuff like this has to be accepted. "This" included the distribution of child pornography. there is absolutely no reason why any of this has to be accepted.

    How does Aoife Dooley know what a 15 year olds dick looks like? She inspected it good and well did she?

    How does she know the pictures weren't taken from somewhere online?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    How does Aoife Dooley know what a 15 year olds dick looks like? She inspected it good and well did she?

    How does she know the pictures weren't taken from somewhere online?

    well that would be even worse. if somebody is sending photos of nude children they found online then a criminal offence has been committed. Should we just accept that as well?


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭red petal


    So her first port of call is to run off to the media and blab about it?

    I know if I felt threatened like she claim she is I'd be off to the guards right away, not giving ammo to other kids to send abuse.

    Really? What would you expect the guards to do about it? While it should be reported to them, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to do anything. The media have more impact than the guards most of the time.

    If someone hit me, I'd punch them back. If someone tried to bully, intimidate or humiliate me online, I would be sure to make their ways known publicly and out them if I had their details. (To put it very nicely!)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 499 ✭✭SirGerryAdams


    well that would be even worse. if somebody is sending photos of nude children they found online then a criminal offence has been committed. Should we just accept that as well?

    She said she was sent dick pictures by 15 year olds.

    You do know that a 15 year old could download a picture of a dick from online, from a porno and then send that picture? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    rusty cole wrote: »
    ah hear you need to change your name to gimme a pound of Flesh!
    so now it's ANGER... next you'll be wanting my IP address and then asking that I be sacked because I'm an angry militant white man who should be destroyed for showing independent contrasting views not aligned with your opinions or values blah blah blah!! Sarcasm in case you didn't guess..

    ok at least we agree she's an attention seeker. Is it a stretch to think same attention seeker may embellish here an there? MAN or WOMAN?? for the record, I am annoyed by more men than women so look there's no need to take two threads and try build a bad profile based on my views therein, it's not balanced really.
    Follow your own advice - stop whining and don't dish it out if you can't take it! :D

    I hate all that anti white male nonsense too - it's not about me having a go at men, it's about me being sick of all the having a go at women here, on what is otherwise a good forum. Far better than Twitter etc. And I know there is anti male stuff too but it is not here on After Hours. People who say it is, are severely deluded.

    I said anger because you do seem angry about Aoife and Sinead.

    I have an issue with online abuse - anywhere, to anyone. According to the bizarre twisted current bandwagon, this isn't a reasonable position to take. :confused:

    Particularly if women are on the receiving end.

    It's really not difficult to express robust disagreement with someone or to criticise them without resorting to knuckledragging abuse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    How does Aoife Dooley know what a 15 year olds dick looks like? She inspected it good and well did she?

    How does she know the pictures weren't taken from somewhere online?

    Bottom of the barrel comes to mind. What other excuse are you going to use for odious behavior? You do realize you are not making any coherent argument, just painting very poor picture of your own moral compass.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 499 ✭✭SirGerryAdams


    red petal wrote: »
    Really? What would you expect the guards to do about it? While it should be reported to them, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to do anything. The media have more impact than the guards most of the time.

    If someone hit me, I'd punch them back. If someone tried to bully, intimidate or humiliate me online, I would be sure to make their ways known publicly and out them if I had their details. (To put it very nicely!)

    And what does she expect telling people to "go talk with your son or daughter" is going to do?
    If someone tried to bully, intimidate or humiliate me online, I would be sure to make their ways known publicly and out them if I had their details.

    Sure, except she hasn't done that. I'f I'm wrong, I'd love to see the usernames.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Its clear in this particular case, and others, the parents either don't know what their kids are up to online or don't care.

    Often parents think they know and do care. But the kids are duping them. Parents often know their kids twitter accounts. They just do not know they have other ones too.

    Alas we as parents can not police our kids 24-7. Even when we have the skills and knowledge to do so. I am extremely IT literate for example. Many parents are not. But even those of us who are - can probably expect our children to excel us in that field.

    What is worse is third parties sell software they claim controls and monitors this stuff. Giving IT illiterate parents a false sense of security. I have yet to find such software yet I could not get around in minutes. If I can do it - damn sure the school yard hive mind can too.

    The only way to even come close - and even then it is no guarantee - to monitoring your child's online persona is to not give them computer or phone access at all.

    I think it is a losing battle. If my kids grow up wanting to do something online I do not approve of - they will do it and no amount of monitoring by me is likely to catch them. So my monitoring their online use is moderate. I aim instead to give them the tools and character most conducive to me not having to.

    There is a saying that one should not ascribe to malice what can be equally explained by incompetence. I would say the same about parenting. We should not assume parents do not care or are bad parents or bad people - when it is just as easy to assume they are the best of people who are simply failing at the task.

    Scummy parents exist. No doubt about it whatsoever. I just do not leap to that explanation from the outset.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Would "we"?

    Why so hostile re women?

    And where is this "all over the airwaves" stuff about hate crime by Sinead Burke?

    Not a fan of this "blogging" malarkey, I don't think it's good writing, and I think it's cringey "let's get down with the kids" stuff to be putting it on an exam paper where writers of classics would usually be. But that kind of online abuse - what tf is wrong with those kids to be that venomous over a few words? The fashion here though - like the Sinead Burke incident - is to pretend the person on the receiving end is the one in the wrong, and even to get quite angry about empathy being shown to them... particularly if they're female. Because that's what ya gotta do to show how non cuck and non pussy you are. (Apart from of course when pretending to care so much about women's treatment by islamists - then it's all about the women's rights).

    Well, that depends. I follow some brilliantly well-written blogs. Not all talented writers can manage to get paid to do it, there’s not enough jobs in it to go round. Some become books. Example - a book called ‘Late Fragments’, released a few years ago, started life as a blog.


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭red petal


    And what does she expect telling people to "go talk with your son or daughter" is going to do?

    Parents can remove phones, computers or any access to the internet from kids. The guards can't.

    Sure, except she hasn't done that. I'f I'm wrong, I'd love to see the usernames.

    The biggest problem with online bullying and the reason it is such a big issue is because it is mainly done anonymously from made up accounts with no trace-ability.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Follow your own advice - stop whining and don't dish it out if you can't take it! :D

    I hate all that anti white male nonsense too - it's not about me having a go at men, it's about me being sick of all the having a go at women here, on what is otherwise a good forum. Far better than Twitter etc. And I know there is anti male stuff too but it is not here on After Hours. People who say it is, are severely deluded.

    I said anger because you do seem angry about Aoife and Sinead.

    I have an issue with online abuse - anywhere, to anyone. According to the bizarre twisted current bandwagon, this isn't a reasonable position to take. :confused:

    Particularly if women are on the receiving end.

    It's really not difficult to express robust disagreement with someone or to criticise them without resorting to knuckledragging abuse.

    you're sick of all the woman bashing as you call it, on an otherwise good forum? Jesus how much do we owe you for those pearls of wisdom, what great company you are and such a pleasure for us to have your blessing.
    If you're trawling through mens profiles specifically looking for alleged sexism etc, well that's all you'll ever see. you have an issue alright, not just with online abuse, you need to wind your neck in or trade it in for a thicker one really. now run along and tell the rest of your sewing circle how you put another few men in their place via Boards today, on what would be an otherwise dull forum without your pure genius in the offering.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    rusty cole wrote: »
    you're sick of all the woman bashing as you call it, on an otherwise good forum? Jesus how much do we owe you for those pearls of wisdom, what great company you are and such a pleasure for us to have your blessing.
    If you're trawling through mens profiles specifically looking for alleged sexism etc, well that's all you'll ever see. you have an issue alright, not just with online abuse, you need to wind your neck in or trade it in for a thicker one really. now run along and tell the rest of your sewing circle how you put another few men in their place via Boards today, on what would be an otherwise dull forum without your pure genius in the offering.

    Oh dear...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    The article is behind a paywall. Any indication of why those students took up against her? Seems a bit odd for a mass campaign to come up spontaneously. What was her article even about anyway?
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/discover/ladybird-bloom-over-california-is-so-big-it-is-picked-up-by-weather-radar-929354.html
    This seems to be the article. I'm surprised the junior cert has such rubbish in it.
    The article itself would not cause any reaction. Presumably some twitter war erupted after the exam, the details of which we are not being told about, in which she offended somebody and then played the #me too card and which ended up with dick pics being sent to her.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Oh dear...


    I'm guessing you can feel the chemistry too.. should I ask her out??:D
    call me a cynic but I think she might say no. I think we have a real

    thing going here , put in a word for me???;)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    recedite wrote: »
    This seems to be the article. I'm surprised the junior cert has such rubbish in it.

    Have I been reading the wrong article entirely then?

    Where to ladybirds and radars come into any of this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    rusty cole wrote: »
    I'm guessing you can feel the chemistry too.. should I ask her out??:D
    call me a cynic but I think she might say no. I think we have a real

    thing going here , put in a word for me???;)

    You know what I think. I think you are living out all your frustrations in this thread. Some restraint is recommended so you don't present the worst version of yourself.

    Anyway that article very well represents my feelings about bus travel and why buses should be banned. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    rusty cole wrote: »
    you're sick of all the woman bashing as you call it, on an otherwise good forum? Jesus how much do we owe you for those pearls of wisdom, what great company you are and such a pleasure for us to have your blessing.
    If you're trawling through mens profiles specifically looking for alleged sexism etc, well that's all you'll ever see. you have an issue alright, not just with online abuse, you need to wind your neck in or trade it in for a thicker one really. now run along and tell the rest of your sewing circle how you put another few men in their place via Boards today, on what would be an otherwise dull forum without your pure genius in the offering.
    Ok you're one of those people who misrepresents what others say.

    But I don't go trawling through profiles - I simply remembered your recent posts. I didn't suggest anything i said was a pearl of wisdom or that I'm great company or that people have my blessing (eh, what? :confused:)

    Yep, bunch of woman haters here on AH. Sorry it upsets you that this is pointed out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    recedite wrote: »
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/discover/ladybird-bloom-over-california-is-so-big-it-is-picked-up-by-weather-radar-929354.html
    This seems to be the article. I'm surprised the junior cert has such rubbish in it.
    The article itself would not cause any reaction. Presumably some twitter war erupted after the exam, the details of which we are not being told about, in which she offended somebody and then played the #me too card and which ended up with dick pics being sent to her.

    Well that is a massive presumption that you pulled out of god knows where.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Well that is a massive presumption that you pulled out of god knows where.
    It's ok though. However Aoife must provide proof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    It's ok though. However Aoife must provide proof.

    well she is a woman so if she receives abuse online it must be her fault. that must be the conclusion we draw from this thread.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    well she is a woman so if she receives abuse online it must be her fault. that must be the conclusion we draw from this thread.

    That or she is making it all up to further her career.

    Which is a claim I have seen from at least one of our more generally misogynist users before on other topics. Remember the female journalist who decided to become a single parent? So she informed a one night stand of this desire and he happily provided the service. And so she wrote an article about it.

    Straight away the claim was made not that she decided to have a child and then decided to write an article about it. No - they reversed it. They decided - based on nothing but their own opinion and no more - that she decided she needed an article and became pregnant solely so she could write one. The baby was basically a commodity of convenience solely created to make a news story. No way she genuinely wanted to become a mother and thought it might be an interesting story too.

    This is alas just how some people think. Thankfully only some. If a woman informs me that she was abused on line and decided to close some or all of her social media as a result - I would be inclined to believe her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    That or she is making it all up to further her career.

    Which is a claim I have seen from at least one of our more generally misogynist users before on other topics. Remember the female journalist who decided to become a single parent? So she informed a one night stand of this desire and he happily provided the service. And so she wrote an article about it.

    Straight away the claim was made not that she decided to have a child and then decided to write an article about it. No - they reversed it. They decided - based on nothing but their own opinion and no more - that she decided she needed an article and became pregnant solely so she could write one. The baby was basically a commodity of convenience solely created to make a news story. No way she genuinely wanted to become a mother and thought it might be an interesting story too.

    This is alas just how some people think. Thankfully only some. If a woman informs me that she was abused on line and decided to close some or all of her social media as a result - I would be inclined to believe her.

    and it is not like this is some unlikely scenario.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    and it is not like this is some unlikely scenario.

    Not at all. As I said I got a load of abuse and threats online - including rape threats against my 2 year old daughter at the time (now 8) - merely for talking for barely an hour on a Dublin Radio chat show and I am a nobody - not even a public figure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭KikiLaRue


    She said she was sent dick pictures by 15 year olds.

    You do know that a 15 year old could download a picture of a dick from online, from a porno and then send that picture? :rolleyes:

    What point are you even trying to make here? How would that be any better?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 499 ✭✭SirGerryAdams


    KikiLaRue wrote: »
    What point are you even trying to make here? How would that be any better?

    Well it's pretty relevant when someone is claiming Dooley would be in possession of child porn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭KikiLaRue


    Well it's pretty relevant when someone is claiming Dooley would be in possession of child porn.

    It’s not “pretty relevant”. You’ve made up a bizarre hypothetical to make a point I still can’t figure out and you can’t seem to articulate.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ok you're one of those people who misrepresents what others say.

    But I don't go trawling through profiles - I simply remembered your recent posts. I didn't suggest anything i said was a pearl of wisdom or that I'm great company or that people have my blessing (eh, what? :confused:)

    Yep, bunch of woman haters here on AH. Sorry it upsets you that this is pointed out.

    ok I'm back, just grabbed a coffee and an hour of the Nial Boylan show, pure gold! "THOSE" people, is that like the "N" word??? the temerity of you!! ah c'mon now you were creeping on my profile, don't give me the aw shucks who me routine now. this whole thread seems to have an undercurrent of battle of the sexes to it now, welcome to 2019.

    anwway it doesn't upset me at all, I just love a good back and fourth at times.
    I also don't think it's full of woman hater really tbh, BUT I do admit having read it back, my first few posts were harsh, not angry though but yes harsh ok.


    so that drink eh?? I'll even let you buy the round, equality and all that!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,865 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Have I been reading the wrong article entirely then?

    Where to ladybirds and radars come into any of this?

    That's what powers the internet duh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    I don't know if it's been pointed out in this thread already but writers don't choose to come up in the Junior Cert English paper (their permission isn't asked). Their work, if published (like the one this thread is about) is fair game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    Course ya do. I mean she IS female after all.

    What is that supposed to mean?

    I call bull**** on all the whining leftist weak minded fools who cry wolf on the internet. 2 abusive tweets becomes dozens which then becomes death threats as the story is embellished just so they can claim oppression points and feel validated.

    Since you seem to have an issue with that I'd have to assume you do the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭KikiLaRue


    What is that supposed to mean?

    I call bull**** on all the whining leftist weak minded fools who cry wolf on the internet. 2 abusive tweets becomes dozens which then becomes death threats as the story is embellished just so they can claim oppression points and feel validated.

    Since you seem to have an issue with that I'd have to assume you do the same.

    I don’t think you know how journalists report stories. Particularly with broadsheets like the Irish Times, they don’t just take someone’s word for it if they claim to have received rape or death threats. They would have asked to see them.

    They most likely won’t print screenshots because those involved are underage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,865 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    KikiLaRue wrote: »
    They most likely won’t print screenshots because those involved are underage.

    Not PC I know but anyone, of any age, who threatens to rape a woman should be shamed and then given a hiding bad enough to put them in hospital for a fortnight. Absolute scum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭KikiLaRue


    Not PC I know but anyone, of any age, who threatens to rape a woman should be shamed and then given a hiding bad enough to put them in hospital for a fortnight. Absolute scum.

    There’s also the possibility that they are not printing screenshots because it would prejudice any potential court cases that might arise from the threats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    KikiLaRue wrote: »
    I don’t think you know how journalists report stories. Particularly with broadsheets like the Irish Times, they don’t just take someone’s word for it if they claim to have received rape or death threats. They would have asked to see them.

    They most likely won’t print screenshots because those involved are underage.

    Yes because they don't print leaks from government 'sources' or guards at all do they? Or print stories with a positive bais so they will get access to people or institutions. Or even stories about weapons of mass destruction that cause nations to go to war.

    Papers like the Irish Times have no political leanings at all do they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Yes because they don't print leaks from government 'sources' or guards at all do they? Or print stories with a positive bais so they will get access to people or institutions. Or even stories about weapons of mass destruction that cause nations to go to war.

    Papers like the Irish Times have no political leanings at all do they?

    and absolutely none of that applies to this story.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭KikiLaRue


    and absolutely none of that applies to this story.

    I’m really struggling with the incoherence of some of these “points”.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    KikiLaRue wrote: »
    I’m really struggling with the incoherence of some of these “points”.

    let me assure you that it does not get any better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya



    Where to ladybirds and radars come into any of this?

    Just as some light relief may i take you up on that...did you see that amazing story about a ladybird swarm in California (I think), so dense and big it showed up on radar. HOLY MOLY!! I love ladybirds.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Zorya wrote: »
    Just as some light relief may i take you up on that...did you see that amazing story about a ladybird swarm in California (I think), so dense and big it showed up on radar. HOLY MOLY!! I love ladybirds.

    Yea thats the reason I mentioned Ladybirds. While telling us what article the thread is about Recdite linked to that very story for some reason. Not sure what thread he thought he was on.

    But yes - mad story. Thats is a lot of lady birds.

    There is a hole at the corner of a window in my house. At the same time every year about 50 lady birds swarm out of it. Not sure how or why. Its almost like salmon - they must come back to the same hole to lay eggs every year. Are ladybirds like salmon - are they known to return to the same spot to lay their eggs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    There is a hole at the corner of a window in my house. At the same time every year about 50 lady birds swarm out of it. Not sure how or why. Its almost like salmon - they must come back to the same hole to lay eggs every year. Are ladybirds like salmon - are they known to return to the same spot to lay their eggs?


    Missed that link, saw the story elsewhere, amazing.

    Great story about ladybirds, they are such useful little things. Love the little yellow ones too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,810 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I know I'm going to cop a load of criticism, but where are the parents in all of this?

    Decent parents don't raise scumbags as kids.

    Also, is there a way to name and shame every last person who posted these remarks? If that happened more often, you'd be sure this kind of thing would decline.

    Well one thing I would say is kids often have multiple social media accounts, access to different devices,etc.
    They were tech savy parents when I was at school and they hadn't a clue half of what there kids were up to.
    Same goes for now it has improved but some parents are very naive.

    Another example would be during the Belfast rape trial last year. I saw people saying my son/etc would never use that word because I raised them properly. I felt like replying you've no idea what he's like when he's out of the house.


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭ToBeFrank123


    Well one thing I would say is kids often have multiple social media accounts, access to different devices,etc.
    They were tech savy parents when I was at school and they hadn't a clue half of what there kids were up to.
    Same goes for now it has improved but some parents are very naive.

    Another example would be during the Belfast rape trial last year. I saw people saying my son/etc would never use that word because I raised them properly. I felt like replying you've no idea what he's like when he's out of the house.

    I just don't think someone from a respectful decent home would be the type to make death threats to anyone.

    Maybe I'm at a loss to understand all of this. I'm not on facebook, twitter, snapchat, and so on. I don't care what time someone went to the toilet today, if they made a number 1 or 2, if they bought blue or red coloured underwear or if they had 1 or 2 eggs for breakfast.

    If you put yourself out there on social media I suppose you will attract comments from a cross section of society ranging from the the respectful and decent to the lowest scumbag imaginable.

    For me the whole social media scene is downright depressing, people either looking for validation or else looking to take others down a few pegs. So I tend to avoid.

    And I agree with people who called it anti social media. The art of going up to someone and having a face to face conversation seems to be dying out among many who use social media a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I just don't think someone from a respectful decent home would be the type to make death threats to anyone.

    I think you would be very wrong on that.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭ToBeFrank123


    I think you would be very wrong on that.

    Becoming a bit of a circular discussion.

    If a kid is off the reigns, something has gone wrong somewhere.

    And tough parenting is required, something that has become a four letter word in our modern snowflake world. Its all carrot and no stick these days. No that I'm advocating physical violence by the way, more the withdrawal of treats and liberties and the like.

    If a kid is misusing their phone it should be taken off them and/or bills no longer paid.

    There are literally dozens of "weapons" available to the modern parent to get their kids back in line, but many parents don't want to do that, and prefer to wash their hands of the situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,810 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I just don't think someone from a respectful decent home would be the type to make death threats to anyone.

    Well in my experience you are totally wrong here.
    I've seen it from people from various backgrounds. Who turn into bullies online and in reality.
    Across both genders, etc.


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