Saturday July 20th

BumperD · 19-07-2019 9:58pm #1

Plenty of big races on tomorrow. One popped up in the tracker is via serpendity ran in some top class handicaps last season winning off 95, handicapper has dropped it a few lbs since so now on 96 which should be workable. Haley rode it to its last win on the turf and the horse seems fit and well, bagging an aw race recently and being raised 9lbs in that code, I know you cannot transfer it literally but as a 5yr old, reckon he’s still open to improvement and this looks an ideal opportunity for him. Trip, draw and ground all ok. I’ve had a fair go at him ew 9/1 Newmarket 350 GL

Andrew00 · 19-07-2019 10:24pm

Fancy FLEETING big time in the Irish Oaks. Backed it everytime it's ran this season and she's had an excuse most of the time.

She was given a poor ride at Ascot don't care what anybody says, maybe she wouldn't have passed Star Catcher but she would've been even closer with a half decent ride.

A good gallop set by Peach Tree tomorrow and I think Fleeting will win the stamina test and reverse than form with Star Catcher.

7/1 will do me fine

longshotvalue · 19-07-2019 10:28pm

The Tin Man seems a 4/5 shot at 2/1

Francie Barrett · 19-07-2019 10:36pm

aidankkk wrote: »

The Tin Man seems a 4/5 shot at 2/1

The Tin Man or me as well.

Lady Haywire · 19-07-2019 10:41pm

Tin Man, Decor Irlandais, Wells de Lune for me. (Last two Cartmel)

Might put in Beeno & Matchmaking as well for a Canadian,

Francie Barrett · 19-07-2019 10:44pm

8:30 - Lydiate Lady a bit of a 5f specialist who will definitely appreciate a bit of cut in the ground is well entitled to be a better price than 6/1 that she stands at.

Francie Barrett · 19-07-2019 10:48pm

Oaks - How is Fleeting 7/1 for this? A bonkers price in my eyes, should be half that price.

Francie Barrett · 19-07-2019 11:00pm

At the other end of the spectrum of value, I really struggle to see how Romanized can be as low as 7/4 for the 4:35. Have to prefer Hey Gaman at 3/1, it has the proven form here, unlike the one hit wonder Romanized.

Slattsy · 19-07-2019 11:01pm

Fox Chairman in the first at Newbury. I'm not always one for shorties but this lad is evens and should be 1/2.

TMYPOTMYGB

BumperD · 19-07-2019 11:04pm

Thretias is 7 times the price of the favorite yet beat it last season she will do for me in the oaks 20/1

tryfix · 19-07-2019 11:34pm

Pink Dogwood has kept on letting her supporters down so I'll oppose her tomorrow, she's shortened in price as if she had improved a ton since the last day but I can see her disappointing yet again.

I've gone for Star Catcher because she was supplemented and that says to me that she has improved since Ascot

Slattsy · 19-07-2019 11:42pm

Joseph's for me in the Oaks.

Slattsy · 19-07-2019 11:43pm

Joseph's for me in the Oaks.

longshotvalue · 20-07-2019 10:54am

2:25

Jukebox Jive has been improving this year, has form around here on soft . His mark should put him close enough here at this trip .

1 point ew 50/1 5 places hills, sky, coral

3:00

Not a long shot but The Tin Man is a long way clear of these, goes on soft and really should be shorter than 2/1 .

2 points win 2/1 gen

3:40

Clay Regazzoni ran better at Royal Ascot than his placing indicates , having no cover all the way and travelled well. This trip and race should suit him . This is a much weaker race

1 pt ew 40/1 5 places 365

Lady Haywire · 20-07-2019 11:18am

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Tin Man, Decor Irlandais, Wells de Lune for me. (Last two Cartmel)

Might put in Beeno & Matchmaking as well for a Canadian,

Matchmaking a non-runner so went with Angel of Harlem at M-Rasen 3.55 instead.

Blinkers_off · 20-07-2019 11:18am

2.30 Think Ahead 15/2
2.45 Desiremoi D'authie 8/1
3.20 Casablanca Mix 13/2
4.45 Divinty 5/1

Curragh

2.50 Leagan Gaeilge 11/2
3.25 Gustavus Weston 12/1

Earendil · 20-07-2019 11:49am

Francie Barrett wrote: »

At the other end of the spectrum of value, I really struggle to see how Romanized can be as low as 7/4 for the 4:35. Have to prefer Hey Gaman at 3/1, it has the proven form here, unlike the one hit wonder Romanized.

I thought Romanized has a great chance today.
On Trethias in the Oaks.

Micko99 · 20-07-2019 12:07pm

I find it odd that the 4.00 at the curragh is sponsored by a racecourse in the United Arab Emirates

longshotvalue · 20-07-2019 12:51pm

Curragh 3:25

Ardhoomey cant be too far away here, in what looks a poor enough renewal and of a good mark compared to last year .

1 point ew 20/1 5 places sky/paddy

akelly02 · 20-07-2019 1:08pm

Romanized needs soft I thought that was common knowledge?

Andrew00 · 20-07-2019 1:16pm

The LADS have loaded Fleeting for the Irish oaks according to the market

longshotvalue · 20-07-2019 1:55pm

Market 2:10

Going to have a small win bet on John Constable here . He never got into it last time , but came back to life the time before . 16/1 is enough to be sorry not to be on if he gets back to form.

1 point win 16/1 gen

IAMAMORON · 20-07-2019 2:10pm

akelly02 wrote: »

Romanized needs soft I thought that was common knowledge?

He handles it but I would say he is best on Firm ground. He won his Guineas on firm. Also I think he needs a stiff mile.

Jim Bolger has only sent out 10 horses in the last week and 4 have won, 3 placed. Flight Risk is 10/1.

I am backing Trethias ew and Search for a Song looks massively overpriced 33/1 in places. Small ew at that price for sure.

Slattsy · 20-07-2019 2:13pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Fox Chairman in the first at Newbury. I'm not always one for shorties but this lad is evens and should be 1/2.

TMYPOTMYGB

Hyup

Andrew00 · 20-07-2019 2:47pm

Gamble landed at Newmarket with Dame Malliot

BorneTobyWilde · 20-07-2019 3:16pm

Blairmayne 25-1 ew
5 places
3.25

I really like this one, consistent over this trip and on bottom weight.

True Blue Moon
IN same
EW again.

HarshOstrich · 20-07-2019 4:41pm

Can someone tell me what all the kings men was trying to achieve in that race.
I think frankie got it wrong with hey gaman and chased a fast pace too early and had very little left at the business end.

droidman123 · 20-07-2019 4:41pm

Great to see billy lee putting manners on dettori there

Andrew00 · 20-07-2019 4:45pm

Good run from Gordon Lord Byron to get 4th. Some yoke

Earendil · 20-07-2019 4:54pm

HarshOstrich wrote: »

Can someone tell me what all the kings men was trying to achieve in that race.
I think frankie got it wrong with hey gaman and chased a fast pace too early and had very little left at the business end.

Beaten by a better horse.

HarshOstrich · 20-07-2019 5:04pm

Earendil wrote: »

Beaten by a better horse.

Dont think so myself, very rare to get a race run that fast and obviously suited the hold up horses, hey gaman had shot his bolt 2 furlongs out and the winner only had a length to spare.
Hopefully they meet again in similar race with no idiotic pacemaker tactics.

IAMAMORON · 20-07-2019 5:14pm

I think the fact is that Romanised was the best horse in the race. He is easy to underestimate. that was only his 3rd time landing the money. but the fact is that he is a group 1 winner and while he might look the dog in the group 1's he is certainly no pig either. He had the group 1 form and it showed.

Andrew00 · 20-07-2019 5:20pm

Fleeting so close yet again.

Frankie rode them to sleep

Scott Tenorman · 20-07-2019 5:24pm

Andrew00 wrote: »

Fleeting so close yet again.

Frankie rode them to sleep

Ryan Moore is riding the same race over and over again with the same result each time. What has happened to him?

The days of the imaginative rides like Notnowcato seem a lifetime away

Andrew00 · 20-07-2019 5:32pm

Megan Nicholls is such a princess

IAMAMORON · 20-07-2019 5:32pm

Meghan Nicholls is pleasing enough on the eye in fairness.

Always Tired · 20-07-2019 5:33pm

Scott Tenorman wrote: »

Ryan Moore is riding the same race over and over again with the same result each time. What has happened to him?

The days of the imaginative rides like Notnowcato seem a lifetime away

Omg come on. Are you seriously asking this now? We've had this discussed at length at least 8 times this year. It's always a Saturday punter that starts it up again too by bringing up Notnowcato. Same fellas mystified by Ruby Walsh not being able to get a winner at Cheltenham after him being garbage for at least a full year before that.

HarshOstrich · 20-07-2019 5:48pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I think the fact is that Romanised was the best horse in the race. He is easy to underestimate. that was only his 3rd time landing the money. but the fact is that he is a group 1 winner and while he might look the dog in the group 1's he is certainly no pig either. He had the group 1 form and it showed.

I think romanised has more stamina which is what won the day, but I do think if you took that front runner out of that race, romanised wouldn't of won.
Fact is he was in the race and there are many different ways a race can be run, today being a fast paced race certainly hurt hey gamans chance.

tryfix · 20-07-2019 6:14pm

Andrew00 wrote: »

Fleeting so close yet again.

Frankie rode them to sleep

I'm glad he did

Star Catcher is probably just the better filly anyway.

Fleeting needs holding up and is always getting there when the race is practically over. She made a good lunge at Star Catcher 50yds out but hadn't enough about her to close any further after that.

They could do worse than sending Fleeting to Doncaster for the St Leger where she'd have loads of time to get there. A wide course like York for the Yorkshire Oaks would allow her to challenge without getting blocked in.

Pink Dogwood was disappointing again, she seemed to lack stamina in both Oaks and speed in the Pretty Polly. These Camelots seem to be not so good when they run in the very best races and they don't seem to progress too well after they burst into the limelight. Hopefully Sir Dragonet will come out again and make a fool of me.

Scott Tenorman · 20-07-2019 10:39pm

Always Tired wrote: »

Omg come on. Are you seriously asking this now? We've had this discussed at length at least 8 times this year. It's always a Saturday punter that starts it up again too by bringing up Notnowcato. Same fellas mystified by Ruby Walsh not being able to get a winner at Cheltenham after him being garbage for at least a full year before that.

Saturday punter lol thanks man :pac:

Saturday July 20th

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